how many do we still have to axe?

stinger · Post: # 1165628Post **stinger** » Mon 17 Oct 2011 10:41pm

or delist...is it two or three..???...walsh was a rookie..so he doesn't count...neither does eddy....baker and gardiner off the list...the two new boys on...i make it another three at least to get the bullet....we have to have three picks don't we??

Dr Spaceman · Mon 17 Oct 2011 10:42pm

stinger wrote:or delist...is it two or three..???...walsh was a rookie..so he doesn't count...neither does eddy....baker and gardiner off the list...the two new boys on...i make it another three at least to get the bullet....we have to have three picks don't we??

Lynch is gone

stinger · Post: # 1165647Post **stinger** » Mon 17 Oct 2011 10:54pm

Dr Spaceman wrote:
stinger wrote:or delist...is it two or three..???...walsh was a rookie..so he doesn't count...neither does eddy....baker and gardiner off the list...the two new boys on...i make it another three at least to get the bullet....we have to have three picks don't we??
Lynch is gone

yep...forgot him already....short memory span...

...and mini...

Batnoe · Post: # 1165671Post **Batnoe** » Mon 17 Oct 2011 11:16pm

I think we will use most of our picks. We had pick 108 last year.

Gone or in trouble
Mcqualter
Gardiner
Baker
Cahill
Heyne
Smith
Archer
Johnson

QuestionOfAccuracy · Mon 17 Oct 2011 11:24pm

Definitely gone...
Heyne
Cahill
Archer
McQualter

St Ick · Post: # 1165676Post **St Ick** » Mon 17 Oct 2011 11:26pm

afl.com.au stating we only want to use 6 picks in the draft... how many does that mean need to go? We've added two, lost one (Walsh was rookie), retired/delisted 3? My head hurts....

sasaint · Post: # 1165682Post **sasaint** » Mon 17 Oct 2011 11:28pm

QuestionOfAccuracy wrote:Definitely gone...
Heyne
Cahill
Archer
McQualter

No salary cap relief there. We will have to let some big names fall into the draft. Maybe Cahill will be saved as he is cheap!

matrix · Post: # 1165690Post **matrix** » Mon 17 Oct 2011 11:34pm

ok so who is actually out of contract?
ray
dawson

gamble?
polo?
peake?
raph?
cj? (someone said that he mentioned at the sponsorship dinner that he was signing a 2 year deal?)

who else?
what about all the vfl level players?

thejiggingsaint · Mon 17 Oct 2011 11:39pm

Raph and Dawson would probably be near the top of a few "hit lists"

I think Heyne is probably on his way? I thought Archer (on the showing in his one(

) game V Richmond) was worth retaining

SainterK · Post: # 1165693Post **SainterK** » Mon 17 Oct 2011 11:40pm

matrix wrote:ok so who is actually out of contract?
ray
dawson

gamble?
polo?
peake?
raph?
cj? (someone said that he mentioned at the sponsorship dinner that he was signing a 2 year deal?)

who else?
what about all the vfl level players?

Ask Thunda

RW&B · Post: # 1165704Post **RW&B** » Mon 17 Oct 2011 11:51pm

Heye has a year to go on his contract (yes?) so delisting him doesn't affect our slary cap at all. Will therefore stay I would have thought.

Verdun66 · Post: # 1165713Post **Verdun66** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 12:08am

Somebody on here a month or two back reckoned they were being told by supporters of another club that when fit Cahill was a potential gun. He had a couple of promising games, then got hurt. Marks well, kicks straight.

Think it was word from South Australia...isn't that where he's from? Be interesting if he got fit. But maybe he doesn't get the chance.

St Lenny · Post: # 1165723Post **St Lenny** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 12:52am

Dont know why people keep saying Dawson, he resigned, what, last week.

Definately gone are -

Gardiner
Baker
Eddy
McQualter
Walsh
Lynch

ace · Post: # 1165734Post **ace** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 2:40am

We also have to take the axe to greedy players salaries and their managers.

Geelong and Collingwood don't have players on over $900,000.

Riewoldt will have plenty to complain about poor delivery and lack of support next year but will he complain to the face in the mirror.

Walsh wont be stepping up to provide an alternate forward target.
The club could not afford to keep him.
Underpaid midfielders will be more interested in what other clubs might deliver them than delivering the ball.

You can't call for teamwork in a huddle and expect to get it when only you are the only beneficiary.

Country Kid · Tue 18 Oct 2011 7:57am

matrix wrote:ok so who is actually out of contract?
ray
dawson

gamble?
polo?
peake?
raph?
cj? (someone said that he mentioned at the sponsorship dinner that he was signing a 2 year deal?)

who else?
what about all the vfl level players?

Dempster

dragit · Post: # 1165760Post **dragit** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 8:21am

Verdun66 wrote:Somebody on here a month or two back reckoned they were being told by supporters of another club that when fit Cahill was a potential gun. He had a couple of promising games, then got hurt. Marks well, kicks straight.

Think it was word from South Australia...isn't that where he's from? Be interesting if he got fit. But maybe he doesn't get the chance.

That was our old boy 'To The Top'
His mail is that Cahill will be a gun, which would be great.
My main memory of him is spilling a regulation chest mark in NAB cup game.
This would be a great time for him to step up if he has the goods, he's the same age as Stanley though so could take longer to come on being a big guy.

saintbrat · Post: # 1165763Post **saintbrat** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 8:25am

Facts
every club has to make 3 spaces available to be used in the draft ( Carlton have to ditch someone)

Gone from St Kilda
Gardiner,
Eddy
McQualter
Baker
Lynch
Walsh

so in fact no more need to be - EXCEPT--- Salary Cap

during trade week St Kilda went from having 3 picks under 68
to having 6 picks under 8

so in Theory-- WHEN the club realign their salary situation they are 1 for 1 in the out numbers and the in numbers- and any more now will be draft or preseason ( doubt we will be eligible) extras.

stkildathunda · Tue 18 Oct 2011 8:56am

SainterK wrote:
matrix wrote:ok so who is actually out of contract?
ray
dawson

gamble?
polo?
peake?
raph?
cj? (someone said that he mentioned at the sponsorship dinner that he was signing a 2 year deal?)

who else?
what about all the vfl level players?
Ask Thunda

You rang

Yea Jones told us at B&F that he recently signed new contract. I also believe Dempster has signed. Ive also been told that Gamble in fact could be contracted for another year. So will leave those 3 off the list. So it leaves all these guys

Brett Peake
Jason Blake
Raphael Clarke
Farren Ray
Dean Polo
Zac Dawson
Jarryn Geary
Will Johnson
Paul Cahill
Daniel Archer
Jackson Ferguson
Warrick Andreoli
Tom Curren

InkerSaint · Tue 18 Oct 2011 9:07am

saintbrat wrote:Facts
every club has to make 3 spaces available to be used in the draft ( Carlton have to ditch someone)

Gone from St Kilda
Gardiner,
Eddy
McQualter
Baker
Lynch
Walsh

so in fact no more need to be - EXCEPT--- Salary Cap

during trade week St Kilda went from having 3 picks under 68
to having 6 picks under 8

so in Theory-- WHEN the club realign their salary situation they are 1 for 1 in the out numbers and the in numbers- and any more now will be draft or preseason ( doubt we will be eligible) extras.

If Eddy and Walsh are rookies, surely they don't count?

In reality we have lost four, picked up two in trades that have to go on the senior list. So we need one more off the senior list. If Heyne gets rookied it fills the criteria.

But - why would the list management team have bargained for pick 68 in the Walsh trade? Surely picks 78 and 96 are enough for any rookie elevations (not that it will happen, and in which case more delistings would be needed).

InkerSaint · Tue 18 Oct 2011 9:10am

stkildathunda wrote:Daniel Archer
Jackson Ferguson
Warrick Andreoli
Tom Curren

These are all rookies - removing them doesn't fix our senior list position or salary cap. You'd think all except maybe Andreoli would go around again.

dragit · Post: # 1165786Post **dragit** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 9:18am

How many can be on the rookie list? The pies have 8 on the website?

Could we down-grade a few of our underwhelming seniors? Cahill/Heyne

InkerSaint · Tue 18 Oct 2011 9:21am

Whoops - Baker was a veteran so outside the list.

A minimum of two must be delisted.

InkerSaint · Tue 18 Oct 2011 9:24am

dragit wrote:How many can be on the rookie list? The pies have 8 on the website?

Could we down-grade a few of our underwhelming seniors? Cahill/Heyne

Heyne is likely to be rookied given that he is contracted for another year.

Cahill is almost certain to get the chop if Sandringham observers are anything to go by.

dragit · Post: # 1165791Post **dragit** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 9:26am

InkerSaint wrote:
dragit wrote:How many can be on the rookie list? The pies have 8 on the website?

Could we down-grade a few of our underwhelming seniors? Cahill/Heyne
Heyne is likely to be rookied given that he is contracted for another year.

Cahill is almost certain to get the chop if Sandringham observers are anything to go by.

I notice Archer is listed as senior on our site, was he a rookie this year?

Ross who? · Post: # 1165794Post **Ross who?** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 9:32am

stkildathunda wrote:
SainterK wrote:
matrix wrote:ok so who is actually out of contract?
ray
dawson

gamble?
polo?
peake?
raph?
cj? (someone said that he mentioned at the sponsorship dinner that he was signing a 2 year deal?)

who else?
what about all the vfl level players?
Ask Thunda
You rang

Yea Jones told us at B&F that he recently signed new contract. I also believe Dempster has signed. Ive also been told that Gamble in fact could be contracted for another year. So will leave those 3 off the list. So it leaves all these guys

Brett Peake
Jason Blake
Raphael Clarke
Farren Ray
Dean Polo
Zac Dawson
Jarryn Geary
Will Johnson
Paul Cahill
Daniel Archer
Jackson Ferguson
Warrick Andreoli
Tom Curren

The bottom 3 here were all First year players. Isn't it mandatory for new draftees to get a minimum 2 year contract.(Even Rookies)???????

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