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Saints weigh up Gram trade

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CONTRACTED St Kilda midfielder/defender Jason Gram could today join Carlton if a late bid by the Blues is successful before the 2pm trade deadline.

It is understood the Saints are entertaining the prospect of losing Gram for a satisfactory trade swap involving at least one high draft selection.

If Gram - the Saints' best-and-fairest runner-up in 2006 behind Nick Riewoldt - is traded, it will ease the club's salary cap pressure and allow St Kilda to retain its required players who are currently out of contract.

Gram played 20 games this season and finished 10th to Sam Fisher in St Kilda's best-and-fairest count.

After playing two games for Brisbane in 2003, he was traded to the Saints, where he has since played a further 137 matches.

St Kilda has already traded Tom Lynch to Adelaide, but has refused to deal with Sydney, which has a keen interest in Irishman Tom Walsh, who is yet to play a senior game.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sp ... 6168006825


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What picks do Carlton have?


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Well, what draft number would you take for him, if you were going to trade him?


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Pick early 20's + OHalipan For one of our pics


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Post: # 1164208Post Spinner »

Seems picks 22 and 44.

44 too high. 22 too low.

I'd obviously take 22. But not 44.


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Spinner wrote:Seems picks 22 and 44.

44 too high. 22 too low.

I'd obviously take 22. But not 44.
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Ralphy wrote:Pick early 20's + OHalipan For one of our pics
That would work well for me.

Gram and 25 for O'Haliian and 22. win/wwn

BANG BANG


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Hurricane wrote:
Ralphy wrote:Pick early 20's + OHalipan For one of our pics
That would work well for me.

Gram and 25 for O'Haliian and 22. win/wwn

BANG BANG

Please don't tell me you both are serious....


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Spinner wrote:
Hurricane wrote:
Ralphy wrote:Pick early 20's + OHalipan For one of our pics
That would work well for me.

Gram and 25 for O'Haliian and 22. win/wwn

BANG BANG

Please don't tell me you both are serious....
figure it would help walsh stay ?


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Post: # 1164218Post Leo.J »

Setanta doesn't fit in with the Pelchen 'skills' line of recruiting...

Unless we get him to keep Tommy company.


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Leo.J wrote:Setanta doesn't fit in with the Pelchen 'skills' line of recruiting...

Unless we get him to keep Tommy company.
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Ralphy wrote:
Spinner wrote:
Hurricane wrote:
Ralphy wrote:Pick early 20's + OHalipan For one of our pics
That would work well for me.

Gram and 25 for O'Haliian and 22. win/wwn

BANG BANG

Please don't tell me you both are serious....
figure it would help walsh stay ?
Apart from the fact I didnt spell Setanta's name right, yeah im serious.

We get a ruckman which we desperatly need not a great one but at least a decent one. We lessen salary cap pressure which we need to do. Sure this board will lose their favourite whipping boy but with Raph and Dawson (unless they are traded) they still have plenty of players to bag out

BANG BANG


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I think Gram + pick 37 for the Blues pick 22 would be a great trade


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Warwick wrote:I think Gram + pick 37 for the Blues pick 22 would be a great trade
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44 and a player I bet they are pushing.

I would be happy to see #1 traded, but that seems a bit scungy.


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Hurricane wrote:
Ralphy wrote:
Spinner wrote:
Hurricane wrote:
Ralphy wrote:Pick early 20's + OHalipan For one of our pics
That would work well for me.

Gram and 25 for O'Haliian and 22. win/wwn

BANG BANG

Please don't tell me you both are serious....
figure it would help walsh stay ?
Apart from the fact I didnt spell Setanta's name right, yeah im serious.

We get a ruckman which we desperatly need not a great one but at least a decent one. We lessen salary cap pressure which we need to do. Sure this board will lose their favourite whipping boy but with Raph and Dawson (unless they are traded) they still have plenty of players to bag out

BANG BANG
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Watters on Gram & co

"Gram, Dawson, Ray are all required players, have a major role going forward. You can take that as they are off table."

They will all be at the Saints next year by sounds of it. Was pretty certain in his statements.


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Spinner wrote:Seems picks 22 and 44.

44 too high. 22 too low.

I'd obviously take 22. But not 44.
That's the simple way to look at it;

Jason Gram for pick 22 or pick 44.

The way I look at it is we want;

Jason Gram for pick 22 - We risk Carlton saying no and then not having enough room to re-sign Goddard.

The way Carlton look at it is;

Jason Gram for pick 44 - Sure, maybe Gram's worth more than that, but I'd rather have a fire sale than risk losing Goddard.


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The Saintsational Man wrote:
Spinner wrote:Seems picks 22 and 44.

44 too high. 22 too low.

I'd obviously take 22. But not 44.
That's the simple way to look at it;

Jason Gram for pick 22 or pick 44.

The way I look at it is we want;

Jason Gram for pick 22 - We risk Carlton saying no and then not having enough room to re-sign Goddard.

The way Carlton look at it is;

Jason Gram for pick 44 - Sure, maybe Gram's worth more than that, but I'd rather have a fire sale than risk losing Goddard.
That's very very very loose reasoning.

I could say we trade Gram for pick 44. But then Fisher also leaves to Carlton in the PSD because he is best mates with JG. And it ends up being pick 44 for Gram and Fisher.


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Watters has stated they Gram is a required player.....


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Post: # 1164253Post matrix »

yup and that means everything huh

if it releases the pressure on the cap then so be it
send him to carlton
dont need sentanta
just need a pick

id take a pick in the 30s to be honest
paid way too much for shanking them off the side of the slipper and being soft for my liking


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Spinner wrote:
The Saintsational Man wrote:
Spinner wrote:Seems picks 22 and 44.

44 too high. 22 too low.

I'd obviously take 22. But not 44.
That's the simple way to look at it;

Jason Gram for pick 22 or pick 44.

The way I look at it is we want;

Jason Gram for pick 22 - We risk Carlton saying no and then not having enough room to re-sign Goddard.

The way Carlton look at it is;

Jason Gram for pick 44 - Sure, maybe Gram's worth more than that, but I'd rather have a fire sale than risk losing Goddard.
That's very very very loose reasoning.

I could say we trade Gram for pick 44. But then Fisher also leaves to Carlton in the PSD because he is best mates with JG. And it ends up being pick 44 for Gram and Fisher.
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Post: # 1164270Post dragit »

What would his salary be…?

300K? 350K? more?

That near BOG in the 2009 GF would have ramped up his his value a lot…

I think we'll have to take the best offer, regardless of if we think it's enough. Setanta has played enough games to command a few dollars these days too, don't think we'll see him at the Saints - thank god.


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dragit wrote:What would his salary be…?

300K? 350K? more?

That near BOG in the 2009 GF would have ramped up his his value a lot…

I think we'll have to take the best offer, regardless of if we think it's enough. Setanta has played enough games to command a few dollars these days too, don't think we'll see him at the Saints - thank god.
Think he would be one of our higher paid players.... His ego would demand alot, Hell he demanded alot in his junior days in sale....


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Post: # 1164273Post Eastern »

If Gram goes it will certainly free up some Salary Cap space. There might even be enough to give Dempster a bit of a pay rise !!


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