Pelchen's Trade wish list

Ross who? · Post: # 1159589Post **Ross who?** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 8:07am

Said this morning on radio that we are looking for:

A Ruckman

Small/Quick forward/s

Speedy mids

Will be changes to playing list this week. Have a very deliberate plan on what they are doing.

Salary cap- He said we will NOT be over cap in 2012. AFL is letting us reduce our cap of our own accord, they have not "told" us what we must do. Saints have been in discussions with AFL for a couple of months on this subject. Very similar to cap at Hawks when he was there. Also said that our cap would be the same as several other clubs currently.

Wrote for Luck · Tue 11 Oct 2011 8:23am

thanks for the update, definitely need a ruckman in the pipeline

samoht · Post: # 1159597Post **samoht** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 8:27am

Someone should tell Pelchen we need quick medium forwards (of the 185cm -190cm variety) .. no more smalls unless they are lightning quick and highly skilled.

stkildathunda · Tue 11 Oct 2011 8:28am

Freeing up the cap so when Free Agency hits next year we can easily match any offer thrown at Goddard i reckon.

SaintPav · Post: # 1159603Post **SaintPav** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 8:36am

samoht wrote:Someone should tell Pelchen we need quick medium forwards (of the 185cm -190cm variety) .. no more smalls unless they are lightning quick and highly skilled.

Nick Hyene.

samoht · Post: # 1159606Post **samoht** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 8:40am

Nick Heyne gets 6 possessions on a good day... we need someone who is capable of 15 plus regularly and use both sides of his body.

SaintPav · Post: # 1159607Post **SaintPav** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 8:42am

You can tell that this bloke lives for trade week. He's very good.

samoht · Post: # 1159608Post **samoht** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 8:43am

Nick Trade Fodder Heyne.

saintly · Post: # 1159611Post **saintly** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 8:50am

was that on SEN?

Ross who? · Post: # 1159612Post **Ross who?** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 8:54am

saintly wrote:was that on SEN?

No, he was on radio Sports national about 10 mins later and said it.

The OtherThommo · Tue 11 Oct 2011 9:37am

http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/Audio ... lchen/3228

Rosco · Post: # 1159630Post **Rosco** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 9:38am

samoht wrote:Someone should tell Pelchen we need quick medium forwards (of the 185cm -190cm variety) .. no more smalls unless they are lightning quick and highly skilled.

he might rate siposs in this category and hence not have an immediate need

Ross who? · Post: # 1159638Post **Ross who?** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 9:43am

SaintPav wrote:You can tell that this bloke lives for trade week. He's very good.

+1

Knows exactly what he wants for the Saints. Listening to the way he comes across I reckon he will get it also.

gringo · Post: # 1159639Post **gringo** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 9:45am

samoht wrote:Someone should tell Pelchen we need quick medium forwards (of the 185cm -190cm variety) .. no more smalls unless they are lightning quick and highly skilled.

I don't get the obsession with mid sized forwards, smalls and talls work when goals come from the midfield as well. It worked at sydney and we were obsessed with finding another o'keefe. Just not many great ones out there.

samoht · Post: # 1159642Post **samoht** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 9:55am

I see a good medium forward as a need... not an obsession.

We see what happens with small forwards against top sides - Milne gets an O'Brien .. who shuts him completely out.

I'd take a lightning quick small though... like a Rioli - that's different.

Ross who? · Post: # 1159645Post **Ross who?** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 9:57am

samoht wrote:I see a good medium forward as a need.

We see what happens with small forwards against top sides - Milne gets an O'Brien .. who shuts him completely out.

Yep, Milne was crap this year

samoht · Post: # 1159646Post **samoht** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 9:58am

O'Brien owns him.

Ross who? · Post: # 1159647Post **Ross who?** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 9:59am

samoht wrote:O'Brien owns him.

Good thing Milne doesn't play Collingwood every week then!

samoht · Post: # 1159648Post **samoht** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 10:02am

O'Brien was just an example.
Our small forwards get found out vs the best defensive sides in finals... against bigger opponents.

Do we want to improve in finals ? .. if so we need quick medium forwards.

Old Mate · Post: # 1159650Post **Old Mate** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 10:05am

David Noble from the Crows said that the deal with Hawks for Gunston isn't coming along and there are other clubs making offers for him. He would be the perfect medium-tall forward for us.

borderbarry · Tue 11 Oct 2011 10:05am

One of a couple of forwards about Raph's size we could draft, Daniel; Marksworth and Brett O'Hanlon, both 189, both capable as mids as well. Then again we could use Raph I suppose.

Ross who? · Tue 11 Oct 2011 10:06am

samoht wrote:O'Brien was just an example.
Our small forwards get found out vs the best defensive sides in finals... against bigger opponents.

Do we want to improve in finals ? .. if so we need quick medium forwards.

Fair enough. We will need a replacement for Milne very soon. Need at least 1 small crumbing forward. Small quick forwards have found out our tallish back line over the last couple of years. Eg. Carlscum last year when they thumped us.

Ross who? · Tue 11 Oct 2011 10:08am

borderbarry wrote:One of a couple of forwards about Raph's size we could draft, Daniel; Marksworth and Brett O'Hanlon, both 189, both capable as mids as well. Then again we could use Raph I suppose.

We drafted him as a forward and he didn't work out as one.

samoht · Post: # 1159655Post **samoht** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 10:09am

borderbarry wrote:One of a couple of forwards about Raph's size we could draft, Daniel; Marksworth and Brett O'Hanlon, both 189, both capable as mids as well. Then again we could use Raph I suppose.

Re: Raph .. I think we've been there, tried it.
Raph reads the play well .. but has the reflexes and sensibilities of a half back flanker unfortunately.

St Ick · Post: # 1159692Post **St Ick** » Tue 11 Oct 2011 11:11am

I think both Maric and Gunston are exactly what we need. I've thrown a few names around already, but Gram, Lynch, Stanley and a second rounder all have value to make this happen.

Only downside to this is that it is not relieving salary cap pressure. The fact we are not mentioning Gunston or his position means that we are either looking to blind side the Hawks at the end of trade week, or are going with Fev. Maybe his move to Darwin is a ploy to stay matchfit and not get caught up in Spring racing carnival???