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St Kilda has Gary Ayres in mix

Post: # 1157310Post Shades »

PORT Melbourne's 2011 premiership coach, Gary Ayres, a former Geelong and Adelaide coach, was scheduled to present to St Kilda's coaching sub-committee last night.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 6160721946


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Post: # 1157312Post SaintSimmo »

So looks like the candiates are:
Gary Ayres
Robert Harvey
Ken Hinkley
Alan Richardson
Scott Watters
Gavin Brown :?:

interesting.... 8-)


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Post: # 1157315Post mad saint guy »

I'd be happy to see Ayres as a senior assistant to a younger coach. A team of Watters, Ayres and Harvey would be a solid base for the coaching group.

Please not Ayres for the senior coach though; he had his chances and never got to the top


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mad saint guy wrote:I'd be happy to see Ayres as a senior assistant to a younger coach. A team of Watters, Ayres and Harvey would be a solid base for the coaching group.

Please not Ayres for the senior coach though; he had his chances and never got to the top
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The Redeemer wrote:
mad saint guy wrote:I'd be happy to see Ayres as a senior assistant to a younger coach. A team of Watters, Ayres and Harvey would be a solid base for the coaching group.

Please not Ayres for the senior coach though; he had his chances and never got to the top
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:shock: :shock: :shock:
Please God, noooooo :cry:

He is NOT the one to lead our group of players. :evil:


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Post: # 1157327Post Dr Spaceman »

The Saints are interviewing several prospects.

I think we knew Ayres was one of them.

Article simply saying we're going to interview Ayres.

Because we're interviewing him he's "in the mix".

All those being interviewed are "in the mix" otherwise why would we interview them?

Nothing's changed as far as I can tell.


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Post: # 1157329Post sasaint »

I can understand why people think that Ayers would be a bad choice, and I initially held this veiw, but think of the upside.
He is someone who has seen the inside of the senior coaches box in the past so he knows what is required.
Our mature players ( Roo, BJ, NDS ) who still have a sniff of a cup would probably see an untied coach as a sign of a rebuild. An experienced coach could be seen as a vote of confidence.
He has already been assessed by two other clubs as having what is required to lead a team successfuly ( and yes he has not taken a club to the ultimate success but he is not Robinson Crusoe there!).
He is well connected throughout the AFL and knows who to contact to get things done, and maybe get some new blood into the team.
He would probably work well with Pelchen given the Hawks connection. (And there is no denying that the Hawks have produced a lot of success over the years.)

We could do a lot worse than getting Ayers IMHO. :)


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Post: # 1157330Post james rose »

To be honest when Ross Lyon left Gary Ayers was one of the first people I thought of to replace him.

*He's solid enough tactically
*He isn't as regimented as R. Lyon providing a breath of fresh air to the players
*He gets the best out of players
*He has a very good record

It depends where you see us. I see us a finalist at the least next year and trying to manage a list rebuild at the same time.

If you see us as a club that needs to do a complete rebuild, he's not your man but I don't and the club has made it pretty clear they don't either.


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Post: # 1157331Post St. Luke »

Is this the same Gary Ayres I'm thinking of?


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Dr Spaceman wrote:The Saints are interviewing several prospects.

I think we knew Ayres was one of them.

Article simply saying we're going to interview Ayres.

Because we're interviewing him he's "in the mix".

All those being interviewed are "in the mix" otherwise why would we interview them?

Nothing's changed as far as I can tell.
I don't think we did know that Ayres was one of them, so this is confirmation he's been interviewed (if correct).

Personally I'm pro-Gary. Outstanding player, and what he's done this year is no fluke but one hell of an achievement, and his players love him.

Go the Gary I say


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Meeting was at a city hotel. Wonder who got the first shout?


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Post: # 1157338Post Dr Spaceman »

millarsaint wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:The Saints are interviewing several prospects.

I think we knew Ayres was one of them.

Article simply saying we're going to interview Ayres.

Because we're interviewing him he's "in the mix".

All those being interviewed are "in the mix" otherwise why would we interview them?

Nothing's changed as far as I can tell.
I don't think we did know that Ayres was one of them, so this is confirmation he's been interviewed (if correct).

Personally I'm pro-Gary. Outstanding player, and what he's done this year is no fluke but one hell of an achievement, and his players love him.

Go the Gary I say
Well it has been alluded to on other threads and Gerard Healy had him in the top 6 earlier in the week.

When you look at who's still available it comes as no surprise he's been asked to submit.

At the very least, a presentation by someone like Ayres provides the panel with a very good comparison with the rookies.

At the end of the day, may be best man win! :)


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Post: # 1157343Post MadSaintFan »

I love how some people on here say "Gary Ayres is NOT the man to lead our group of players." In all honesty how would you know? Fair enough you can have an opinion but hes being interview for the role and obviously has some attributes which are attractive to the selection panel. Hes coached previously and has a solid record at the highest level - also took a stand alone VFL club to an undefeated season and premiership.


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Post: # 1157350Post Eastern »

Its all POLITICS.

Ayres (or his management) would know Noddy Sheahan and have asked him to "PUMP UP AYRES' TYRES". Where does Ayres sit in the pecking order? I'd suspect that Netters, Burkey and very few others would know !!


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Post: # 1157352Post Saints94 »

So is Hinkley still in the race?, Watters is our man with Ayres as senior assistant


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Post: # 1157353Post stinger »

f*** no....(to ayres)


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Post: # 1157370Post spert »

I remember Blight at Geelong in the '80s when he couldn't crack it for a premiership- everyone wanted his blood down there including some senior players. Move on to the late 90s and he had a couple of premierships under his belt. Don't write anyone with senior experience off.


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Post: # 1157379Post BigMart »

That dud Ayres with a TERRIBLE coaching record.....infact a terrible record in the industry....

He wouldnt know his way around a footy field......and leadership, has he ever shown any???

None whatsoever, so I am informed by supporters on saintsational

One part of me wants him to get the job....just so I can have a laugh at some experts on here, who label him incompetatnt.....when he is clearly not

My real preference would be a more contemporary coach.....mainly to do with tactical awareness...

If we had a young group.....I would think Gary would be a great choice...terrific mentor...does not get flustered
His actual record speaks for itself


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Post: # 1157381Post Moccha »

Eastern wrote:Its all POLITICS.

Ayres (or his management) would know Noddy Sheahan and have asked him to "PUMP UP AYRES' TYRES". Where does Ayres sit in the pecking order? I'd suspect that Netters, Burkey and very few others would know !!
and if they didn't know who would?


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BigMart wrote:That dud Ayres with a TERRIBLE coaching record.....infact a terrible record in the industry....

He wouldnt know his way around a footy field......and leadership, has he ever shown any???

None whatsoever, so I am informed by supporters on saintsational

One part of me wants him to get the job....just so I can have a laugh at some experts on here, who label him incompetatnt.....when he is clearly not

My real preference would be a more contemporary coach.....mainly to do with tactical awareness...

If we had a young group.....I would think Gary would be a great choice...terrific mentor...does not get flustered
His actual record speaks for itself
And the fact that he was an awesome footballer, which adds a fair amount of credibility. He'd certainly be able to straighten out a few of the guys in the backline ie Gram, Ray and Dawson to start with.


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Post: # 1157392Post MadSaintFan »

Spot on Bigmart. Cant believe how some people are so passionate about their opinions without having any knowledge or statistics to back it up. People talk about our list being difficult to manage, well if it is Id prefer a man whose been in the industry for 30 years playing and coaching than a first year coach.


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Post: # 1157396Post gosaints »

I think we could do worse.

Ayres would be absolutely ideal as a senior assistant but if the board thinks he is the best man for the big job then so be it.

People saying he has not reached the top, well no he hasn't won a premiership as an AFL coach, but he has reached the same level as the great Ross Lyon that everyone is so pissed off at losing.
He has also coached his own VFL team to an unbeaten season.

We could do a hell of alot worse.


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Post: # 1157397Post remboy »

According to the Age they are interviewing 10 people. The media are bound to go through them and mention at least half of them as being the favourite as some point. Yes, Ayres is being interviewed, but that doesn't mean he's going to be the next coach.
I think we all have to ignore the papers for the next week or two until an announcement is made. Let's face it, how many of these media experts told us that Ross was going to Freo, or got the Melbourne and Bulldogs appointments right?


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Post: # 1157399Post markp »

If he's considered the best applicant, I wouldn't have a problem with it... heaps of experience, always presented well, still fairly young.

I'd be more worried if they got all starry-eyed and threw a massive Blightesque offer at Malthouse.


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