barks4eva wrote:kaos theory wrote:The bleating one won't like any words from our board.
How dare they say anything against the Messiah. The Greta One only speaks the truth, whereas the board, including Burke are evil low-life scum that cannot be trusted.
Quickly B4E, get some holy water!, Make the cross across your chest 3 times, and repeat after me:
"Oh lord Lyon, please forgive me for transgressing and reading the words of the Devil. I shall administer 40 lashes on my sinning body tonight as repentance to you oh great Lyon!"
Funny stuff!
What about you actually deal with the FACTS and what Burke said!!!!!!!!
Do you not find that concerning?
Ross Lyon wanted to coach us for $650,000 a year for four years with no get out clauses to provide him with some level of security!
This is very reasonable for a coach generally regarded as one of the best in the industry!
The club had a real opportunity for once in it's pathetic history to break the mould and back the guy IN and make him the ten year coach that Westaway made noises about!
But they refused!!!!!!!!!!
Then went one step further and appointed Pelchen giving him authority over Lyon
AND then six months later offer a TWO YEAR extension with conditions
before eventually realising they might lose him and up the offer to four years without conditions which Lyon originally sought
Too little too late and when a club who truly valued him offered almost FIVE MILLION MORE DOLLARS with an extra year
you do the maths!
According to most on here all of a sudden Lyon is now a lowlife, scum of the earth, lying prick for leaving St kilda!
KEEP IT REAL!
I disagree with the premise that what RL asked for is reasonable. The money may be reasonable, but the unconditionality of a FOUR YEAR contract, in these circumstances below, was unreasonable, and it was reasonable for the board to consider it carefully:
- Charlie Gardiner, Ryan Gamble, and co suggest RL is not always on song when rehashing fringe players from other clubs
- Andrew Lovett was a f****** disaster
- We have generally, most agree, not drafted well over the past 6-7 years; RL was at the helm for the majority of that time
- RL did not sell the club well, which points to the bottom line
- We may trend up or down or the same, but all agree the playing list is at some transitional point, and RL is NOT a proven coach for a team in such a position. In fact, one could argue he has a poor record of bringing young kids in and getting them right for AFL football. Given that, appointing him for 4 years, unconditionally, could have been a very costly mistake.
- There is an argument saying our game plan has been mastered and surpassed and that the immediate future is going to require a re-emphasis on basic ball skills; again, RL would not appear to measure up all that well on that count.
- RL showed faith in poor footballers, let's be honest. Too much faith. And we have slipped. A change is needed and are we really sue RL is the guy to deliver it?
- One might argue RL did not allow the team to play to its own internal strengths; and that if he had we may have met with ultimate success
- 'Bomb it long to Reiwoldt', one could argue, cost us the GF against Geelong.
There are a whole lot of arguments that are valid and that could be mounted that a 4-year deal was not a good deal for the club, and that, by not having to enter into one, the club dodged a bullet.