Odds for next Senior Coach are out

stinger · Post: # 1143412Post **stinger** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 5:29pm

micky milkshake is a c***...just like ross lyon.....maybe c**ts make the best coaches and nice guys like banger run last....

barks4eva · Post: # 1143422Post **barks4eva** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 5:35pm

stinger wrote:micky milkshake is a c***...just like ross lyon.....maybe c**ts make the best coaches and nice guys like banger run last....

LOVELY and coming from a deluded christian.... surely there is no need for that language?

FWIW, I would describe you with a word that starts with C

CLUELESS

GoTheTorp · Post: # 1143439Post **GoTheTorp** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 5:47pm

All these people saying Robert Harvey cant coach or hes not ready yudda yudda yudda, i guess all these people know the inner sanctum down at St Kilda and that Rob is a just a lap dog assistant. I have it on very good authority his work is exemplary and that he leaves no stone unturned in his quest to get the best out of his squad physically and tactically.

If hes a dud coach please put your proof forward or stop saying he not ready etc etc because you wouldnt have a clue if hes ready or not.

He holds record career games
Has been rated in the top 50 footballers of all time.
2 Brownlows
All Australian 8 times
3 EJ Whitten Medals
1xAFL Players Association Most Valuable Player Award
4x Trevor Barker awards
Club Captain
3 years as an assistant coach
now Caretaker Coach of the Saints now a fav to take the job

etc etc etc

He would get my vote every time, would love to see him get a crack at it.

SaintSimmo · Sat 17 Sep 2011 6:02pm

I reckon its out of Sanderson, Cameron, and Hinkley

barks4eva · Post: # 1143462Post **barks4eva** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 6:06pm

SaintSimmo wrote:I reckon its out of Sanderson, Cameron, and Hinkley

heaven help us if you're right and would be reasonable to assume you're NOT

though I would not put anything beyond the monkey spankers running the joint

stinger · Post: # 1143466Post **stinger** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 6:09pm

barks4eva wrote:
stinger wrote:micky milkshake is a c***...just like ross lyon.....maybe c**ts make the best coaches and nice guys like banger run last....
LOVELY and coming from a deluded christian.... surely there is no need for that language?

FWIW, I would describe you with a word that starts with C

CLUELESS

you have been showing the world recently that you are just that......you are a laughing stock..

.p.s... i have some breaking news for you....christians swear...

if we can get thomas i bags first seat when he chucks you out of his box again...

derby Street · Sat 17 Sep 2011 6:15pm

GoTheTorp wrote:All these people saying Robert Harvey cant coach or hes not ready yudda yudda yudda, i guess all these people know the inner sanctum down at St Kilda and that Rob is a just a lap dog assistant. I have it on very good authority his work is exemplary and that he leaves no stone unturned in his quest to get the best out of his squad physically and tactically.

If hes a dud coach please put your proof forward or stop saying he not ready etc etc because you wouldnt have a clue if hes ready or not.

He holds record career games
Has been rated in the top 50 footballers of all time.
2 Brownlows
All Australian 8 times
3 EJ Whitten Medals
1xAFL Players Association Most Valuable Player Award
4x Trevor Barker awards
Club Captain
3 years as an assistant coach
now Caretaker Coach of the Saints now a fav to take the job

etc etc etc

He would get my vote every time, would love to see him get a crack at it.

Well I have it on good authority that he's not ready to be a senior coach - so where does that leave us besides having 2 different opinions? Club Legend - yes. Champion AFL player yes - all the above awards - fantastic. Does not make him a guaranteed great AFL coach.

Fav to get the job -??? please don't do it Saints.

Schillaci · Post: # 1143479Post **Schillaci** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 6:22pm

Interesting market and in many ways a depressing one.
I love Banger, always will but don't think he is what we need right now.
To have Eade, Burns, SOS and Mark "Um Err" Harvey as leading chances too I am thinking,...No...No...No...and No.
Looks like Ross has screwed us big time if we can't land MM or Roos.

ShakenNotStirred · Sat 17 Sep 2011 6:23pm

Any money for Simon Goosey

Been pretty successful in the MPFL.

MCG-Unit · Post: # 1143501Post **MCG-Unit** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 6:36pm

Surprised that McCartney and Scott Watters are not in the market at all.

I reckon Burns will get the Croweaters job, and Cameron the WB

My preferences would still be Roos, Alan Richardson, Scott Watters, Rob Harvey and maybe Sanderson

busso mick · Sat 17 Sep 2011 6:46pm

MCG-Unit wrote:Surprised that McCartney and Scott Watters are not in the market at all.

I reckon Burns will get the Croweaters job, and Cameron the WB

My preferences would still be Roos, Alan Richardson, Scott Watters, Rob Harvey and maybe Sanderson

Scott Watters was very good at Subiaco and experienced success with 2 flags, albeit with a very good side at the time. He is a good communicator and performing well currently as Collingwoods defensive coach. He also came across as very astute in his time in the media in Perth.

I want us to look for someone who has been playing the game in the last decade and is in touch with the modern game. IMO the old rant and rave types have had their day and let's hope we bypass the Eade, Malthouse and Craig (or similar) route when its time to pick our coach.

takeaway · Post: # 1143510Post **takeaway** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 6:48pm

What is wrong with Rocket Eade?

Started the Sydney game plan (although ugly) - a premiership eventuated using virtually the same plan.

imo did very well with a limited Bulldogs list.

Is not set on a certain game plan - flexible according to playing list

Very experienced, would be a good fit to get us back on track. Banger needs a couple of more years

Old Mate · Post: # 1143513Post **Old Mate** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 6:51pm

Shaw and Maxwell would def consider some of those juicy odds

Dr Spaceman · Sat 17 Sep 2011 7:05pm

Old Mate wrote:Shaw and Maxwell would def consider some of those juicy odds

Especially if Malthouse has told them he's taking the job!

In confidence of course

Southern Moss · Sat 17 Sep 2011 7:13pm

I don't have any real insight into any of the potential coaches except one: Rodney Eade. I know a few people who have worked for him. They were remarkably unimpressed. People were incessantly terrified by his unpredictable outbursts. He delegated most of the strategic work to other coaches. They mentioned many other damming problems, none of which I would like to mention on this forum, partly because my information is only second hand.

Even if their perception is not entirely accurate, their concerns highlight one crucial issue: We do ascribe incredible power to the head coach. Like in business, the best thing the head can do, often, is to allow people the autonomy to thrive.

MCG-Unit · Post: # 1143546Post **MCG-Unit** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 7:17pm

busso mick wrote:
MCG-Unit wrote:Surprised that McCartney and Scott Watters are not in the market at all.

I reckon Burns will get the Croweaters job, and Cameron the WB

My preferences would still be Roos, Alan Richardson, Scott Watters, Rob Harvey and maybe Sanderson
Scott Watters was very good at Subiaco and experienced success with 2 flags, albeit with a very good side at the time. He is a good communicator and performing well currently as Collingwoods defensive coach. He also came across as very astute in his time in the media in Perth.

I want us to look for someone who has been playing the game in the last decade and is in touch with the modern game. IMO the old rant and rave types have had their day and let's hope we bypass the Eade, Malthouse and Craig (or similar) route when its time to pick our coach.

Yes I've heard only positive reports on Watters, good to hear more - that's why I was surprised he is not in that betting market. Also keen on Richardson, he seems a quiet type like Rob Harvey - doesn't mean they can't coach seniors

I mentioned Roos in case they prefer an experienced coach. He may not have played in the last decade, but he doesn't have that temperament of Malthouse and Eade.

philtee · Post: # 1143550Post **philtee** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 7:21pm

Here are the Sportingbet odds. Again Harvey at $3...won't happen.
What is Grant Thomas doing in thera at all ? Won't happen.
What is Silvagni doing in that mix ? Won't happen.

Robert Harvey 3.00
Rodney Eade 3.00
Michael Malthouse 8.00
Neil Craig 21.00
Stephen Silvagni 17.00
Brenton Sanderson 17.00
Alan Richardson 17.00
Brendan McCartney 17.00
Grant Thomas 41.00
Mark Williams 41.00
Ken Hinkley 26.00
Dean Laidley 34.00
Paul Williams 41.00
Mark Harvey 26.00

bobmurray · Post: # 1143552Post **bobmurray** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 7:24pm

Southern Moss wrote:I don't have any real insight into any of the potential coaches except one: Rodney Eade. I know a few people who have worked for him. They were remarkably unimpressed. People were incessantly terrified by his unpredictable outbursts. He delegated most of the strategic work to other coaches. They mentioned many other damming problems, none of which I would like to mention on this forum, partly because my information is only second hand.

Even if their perception is not entirely accurate, their concerns highlight one crucial issue: We do ascribe incredible power to the head coach. Like in business, the best thing the head can do, often, is to allow people the autonomy to thrive.

Gary Lyon doesn't think much of him...definitely didn't want him at Melbourne

Eade didn't realise there was a new tactic called the press.....thought it was a collection of journo's

matrix · Post: # 1143563Post **matrix** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 7:51pm

mick at 8 bucks

get on him peeps
im telling ya
he is coming

FortiusQuoFidelius · Sat 17 Sep 2011 8:21pm

ShakenNotStirred wrote:Any money for Simon Goosey

Been pretty successful in the MPFL.

Surely you jest... Goosey has been a failure at Frankston VFL for the last 2 years... no wins in 2011 and not many more (if any) in 2010.

And another thing... its MPNFL... hasnt been MPFL for years.

Megsie · Post: # 1143585Post **Megsie** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 8:24pm

thought Harves was moved on by carlton along with others.

defacto · Post: # 1143587Post **defacto** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 8:26pm

if we cant get mick. i'd love to see something like
senior coach: scott waters
director of coaching/senior assistant: leigh matthews/paul roos (can maintain media commitments)
backline coach: max houghton
ruck coach: steven king/matthew burton
midfield coach: robert harvey
forward coach: adam simpson
development: peter german

dragit · Post: # 1143588Post **dragit** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 8:28pm

philtee wrote:Here are the Sportingbet odds. Again Harvey at $3...won't happen.
What is Grant Thomas doing in thera at all ? Won't happen.
What is Silvagni doing in that mix ? Won't happen.

Robert Harvey 3.00
Rodney Eade 3.00
Michael Malthouse 8.00
Neil Craig 21.00
Stephen Silvagni 17.00
Brenton Sanderson 17.00
Alan Richardson 17.00
Brendan McCartney 17.00
Grant Thomas 41.00
Mark Williams 41.00
Ken Hinkley 26.00
Dean Laidley 34.00
Paul Williams 41.00
Mark Harvey 26.00

I'm with you on those 3, Harvey too inexperienced, would be a disaster IMO.

Grant Thomas ? Completely out of the game for 5 years WTF no chance in hell?

SOS - About as sharp as Dougie Hawkins and a good mate of Lyon's - NO!

bigred · Post: # 1143620Post **bigred** » Sat 17 Sep 2011 9:13pm

Tudor would be a beauty.

perfectionist · Sat 17 Sep 2011 9:46pm

"What about me" or the man who will do the next cover version - Barry Manilow!