Pelchen might be a saviour here

bergholt · Post: # 1140977Post **bergholt** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 8:39am

Given that we won't have a senior coach to guide recruiting, it's pretty handy that we have a very solid list manager in the background who can make it all happen. This way hopefully it doesn't matter too much if a senior coach isn't appointed until late October - because I can't see it happening in less than six weeks.

The caveat is that the coach appointed needs to quickly get a very solid working relationship with Pelchen, as he'll have a lot of power around the footy club in the next few months.

plugger66 · Post: # 1140982Post **plugger66** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 8:40am

The hawks didnt think he was the answer. Hope you are right because it is more than likely delistings will be done without a coach.

vacuous space · Fri 16 Sep 2011 8:44am

I wonder if the decision to appoint Pelchen has anything to do with Ross' decision to leave.

Stillwaiting · Fri 16 Sep 2011 8:45am

plugger66 wrote:The hawks didnt think Hawthorn was the answer. Hope you are right because it is more than likely delistings will be done without a coach.

delistings and recruiting and trading without a coach is s worry to me, and not everything I hear about prelchen is positive either

Dr Spaceman · Fri 16 Sep 2011 8:48am

Stillwaiting wrote:
plugger66 wrote:The hawks didnt think Hawthorn was the answer. Hope you are right because it is more than likely delistings will be done without a coach.
delistings and recruiting and trading without a coach is s worry to me, and not everything I hear about prlchen is positive rithet

No, but Pelchen's there and Lyon ain't!

Time to start hoping like hell

Stillwaiting · Fri 16 Sep 2011 8:52am

Dr Spaceman wrote:
Stillwaiting wrote:
plugger66 wrote:The hawks didnt think Hawthorn was the answer. Hope you are right because it is more than likely delistings will be done without a coach.
delistings and recruiting and trading without a coach is s worry to me, and not everything I hear about prlchen is positive rithet
No, but Pelchen's there and Lyon ain't!

Time to start hoping like hell

let's just hope the club can hold things together and get through the trade period and apointment of a new coach.

markp · Post: # 1141004Post **markp** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 8:52am

vacuous space wrote:I wonder if the decision to appoint Pelchen has anything to do with Ross' decision to leave.

But is it possible they appointed him because they thought something like this could happen?

Take a few eggs from the one basket.

Nettlefold said they approached lyon for a contract extension in may (for whatever reason, obviously unsuccessfully), when was Pelchen appointed?

bergholt · Post: # 1141031Post **bergholt** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 9:21am

Stillwaiting wrote:let's just hope the club can hold things together and get through the trade period and apointment of a new coach.

yup, and that's what pelchen can help. regardless of how good or bad he is, someone needs to take responsibility for making decisions during the interregnum. pelchen's got more experience than many in that role.

Stillwaiting · Fri 16 Sep 2011 9:53am

bergholt wrote:
Stillwaiting wrote:let's just hope the club can hold things together and get through the trade period and apointment of a new coach.
yup, and that's what pelchen can help. regardless of how good or bad he is, someone needs to take responsibility for making decisions during the interregnum. pelchen's got more experience than many in that role.

I think many are expecting us to disingrate now, some in the media definatly do, may be prelchen go along way to destroying that myth

Legendary · Post: # 1141109Post **Legendary** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 9:56am

Pelchen has a pretty damn good record as list manager at the Hawks. He built their premiership team with his recruiting and trading strategy, and has left their list in excellent shape, with at least another 4-5 good years ahead of them.

He's very experienced and has worked alongside some good people before.

He'll look after us well.

ThePunter · Post: # 1141111Post **ThePunter** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 9:57am

Firstly, Pelchen built a list that won a premiership. Wouldn't be too much angst on here if the Saints had managed to do that in the last two years.

Secondly, the negative things that one hears about Pelchen are from other clubs. North Melbourne sold the family china to get Thompson and Hay. Josh Gibson was another quality get under his tenure. Pelchen simply had a reputation for being on the winning end of a trade.

Old Mate · Post: # 1141113Post **Old Mate** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 9:58am

plugger66 wrote:The hawks didnt think he was the answer. Hope you are right because it is more than likely delistings will be done without a coach.

Like all, he made some recruiting blunders and he was/is seen as a control freak. However you cannot deny that he had a big influence on building the lists of Port and the Hawks, two teams that went on to win premierships.

St Igmata · Fri 16 Sep 2011 10:01am

Old Mate wrote:
plugger66 wrote:The hawks didnt think he was the answer. Hope you are right because it is more than likely delistings will be done without a coach.
Like all, he made some recruiting blunders and he was/is seen as a control freak. However you cannot deny that he had a big influence on building the lists of Port and the Hawks, two teams that went on to win premierships.

Problem is he has a reputation and clubs dont give him anything anymore.
And he hasnt done alot in a few years.
The club needs a list manager but i dont have faith in Pelchin

Legendary · Fri 16 Sep 2011 10:04am

Disagree that he hasn't done a lot in the last few years.

Some of the 1st, 2nd & 3rd year players at the Hawks look excellent and have played a big role for them this year.

SaintPav · Post: # 1141137Post **SaintPav** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 10:05am

plugger66 wrote:The hawks didnt think he was the answer. Hope you are right because it is more than likely delistings will be done without a coach.

When he left It was reported that he didn't like that he was reporting to the CEO anymore. I thought he resigned.

Spinner · Post: # 1141153Post **Spinner** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 10:10am

Kelly said there were some list management issue to work through in the contract.... But seems they got it sorted.

Junction Oval · Fri 16 Sep 2011 10:11am

He may be good at what he does and may be safe hands for now, but I don't like control frieks. They cause too many disruptions and we don't need more of them. It's the team approach that always wins in the longer run.

Con Gorozidis · Sat 17 Sep 2011 4:49am

plugger66 wrote:The hawks didnt think he was the answer. Hope you are right because it is more than likely delistings will be done without a coach.

Hawks are doing just fine. Maybe he needed a new challenge in his field?
And when it comes to his field of youth development nooone has a bigger challenge than the saints.

Con Gorozidis · Sat 17 Sep 2011 4:52am

Makes perfext sense we would offer big bucks to someone in our biggest weakness?

rod_margarine · Mon 19 Sep 2011 11:10pm

Why did Hawthorn sack Pelchen?

saintbrat · Mon 19 Sep 2011 11:13pm

rod_margarine wrote:Why did Hawthorn sack Pelchen?

change of role and deliniation of who reports to who suppposedly

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/c ... 6140368031

thejiggingsaint · Mon 19 Sep 2011 11:20pm

Well. I'm prepared to simply give this guy the opportunity to carry out his role at the SAINTS rather than worry/fret about just why he left the Hawks

fingers · Post: # 1145207Post **fingers** » Mon 19 Sep 2011 11:29pm

plugger66 wrote:The hawks didnt think he was the answer. Hope you are right because it is more than likely delistings will be done without a coach.

Why do you say that?