Lyon has sold out the players

[joffaboy]

Apparently didn't know a thing about it.

Man of integrity. - lol

ESP has sacked him for negotiating behind their backs.

3.5 million by Freo for first year and 1 mill for the next three.

Whew.

We know the price of his soul.

[bigcarl]

Ran them into the ground and now has cut and run. Ordinary.

[SainterK]

Robbo_heraldsun Mark Robinson
News: Nick Riewoldt learned the news of Lyon's departure while in hospital. In and out of consciousness. It was apparenlty knee surgery

[plugger66]

Apparently didn't know a thing about it.

Man of integrity. - lol

ESP has sacked him for negotiating behind their backs.

3.5 million by Freo for first year and 1 mill for the next three.

Whew.

We know the price of his soul.

Have you ever left a job for money? I certainly have and didnt give a stuff about the company. Only cared about my mates when I left and still see them now.

[rexy]

I am disappointed by his decision to but am not sure what you expected!

"Now listen guys I am seriously considering a big offer from Freo and wanted you to know first. I want you to put in everything for the club though and pretend it is not happening, and lets not tell anyone either! Mums the word!
Hands in, 1,2,3 saints"

????????

[fingers]

Apparently didn't know a thing about it.

Man of integrity. - lol

ESP has sacked him for negotiating behind their backs.

3.5 million by Freo for first year and 1 mill for the next three.

Whew.

We know the price of his soul.

Have you ever left a job for money? I certainly have and didnt give a stuff about the company. Only cared about my mates when I left and still see them now.

We have probably all done it except I did tell my mates before I left. And the bond at a football club is slightly different. I don't blame him for taking a better offer. The way he did it was inappropriate (from what we now to so far).

[Raven]

I'm not even that POed about the fact that he's no longer our coach (well I am disappointed because I think he's a gun), but it's more that I genuinely believed he was a man of integrity, honesty, etc in a sea of cliches and media beatups. That's all been ripped away, it feels soul-destroying.

But of course, it's a business. We move on. We need to move on quickly though. Hell of a lot of competition for good coaches at the moment.

[joffaboy]

Apparently didn't know a thing about it.

Man of integrity. - lol

ESP has sacked him for negotiating behind their backs.

3.5 million by Freo for first year and 1 mill for the next three.

Whew.

We know the price of his soul.

Have you ever left a job for money? I certainly have and didnt give a stuff about the company. Only cared about my mates when I left and still see them now.

Yes i have left for money.

3.5 mill in the first year
1 mill for the next three

how could the Saints counter that?

But if what is coming out is true, I have overestimated the integrity and truthfullness of Lyon.

He apparently approached Freo, therefore he shafted Harvey, he apparently told the players he was staying, and then walks on them.

His management firm has sacked him

He was negotiating with a rival club during our tilt at the finals.

if you are comfortable with that good luck to you.

As i said the coin is too good to believe, but football is not just a job, it is very emotiona.

personally I couldn't care less.

he has run the list into the ground and then squibs it when it comes to rebuilding it.

Well he gets a built list and some big coin.

Cost him his reputation as a person of integrity and honesty though.

Is it worth it? Obviously to him.

oh well.

[kaos theory]

Apparently didn't know a thing about it.

Man of integrity. - lol

ESP has sacked him for negotiating behind their backs.

3.5 million by Freo for first year and 1 mill for the next three.

Whew.

We know the price of his soul.

Have you ever left a job for money? I certainly have and didnt give a stuff about the company. Only cared about my mates when I left and still see them now.

If you leave to go to competition you don't stay there and lie to your colleagues & management. You make it known, and let the management decide if they want you to stay on. And almost always they will show you the door & walk you out!

[mullet]

Dont most people apply for positions that are vacant or advertised.

I dont know too many people who ring a company and say hey get rid of him and I'll come

[plugger66]

Apparently didn't know a thing about it.

Man of integrity. - lol

ESP has sacked him for negotiating behind their backs.

3.5 million by Freo for first year and 1 mill for the next three.

Whew.

We know the price of his soul.

Have you ever left a job for money? I certainly have and didnt give a stuff about the company. Only cared about my mates when I left and still see them now.

If you leave to go to competition you don't stay there and lie to your colleagues & management. You make it known, and let the management decide if they want you to stay on. And almost always they will show you the door & walk you out!

Yep but you dont tell them until you have 100% got the job. Are you saying he should have left 4 weeks before the finals? If you reckon it is bad know imagine that.

[SainterK]

It's weird.

If he had just left, I would of been cool with it.

It's the manner he has done so that irks me.

Telling his players he was staying is pretty crap, Roo finding out while in hospital pretty crap, spouting off he was staying was pretty crap.

Actually, convincing myself quite easily we are better off without him.

Very, very good coach.

Just not an honourable person.

Which doesn't mean he won't enjoy success, but doesn't mean that we won't enjoy it either.

FQF.

[SainterK]

Yep but you dont tell them until you have 100% got the job. Are you saying he should have left 4 weeks before the finals? If you reckon it is bad know imagine that.

Maybe we know now why he coached in his words 'so poorly' v Sydney, as his head and heart were elsewhere.

[SaintPav]

He coached badly on Saturday night.

[plugger66]

Yep but you dont tell them until you have 100% got the job. Are you saying he should have left 4 weeks before the finals? If you reckon it is bad know imagine that.

Maybe we know now why he coached in his words 'so poorly' v Sydney, as his head and heart were elsewhere.

Lets face it 99% of people wouldnt of had a clue if he coached poorly on Saturday unless he told us but lets wait for all the hindsighters to say i though he coached poorly.

[noreason41]

Could of understood it if he'd taken a job with Melbourne.
Could have understood it if he hadn't gotten sacked by HIS management company.

The way it happened has left me thinking WTF? I doubt we'll lose to Fremantle in a while....

On a sidenote:
Does anyone know if his management company now has a right to sue him for the money they lost with him negotiating behind their backs?

If he's under contract with them, is he allowed to negotiate behind their back?

[maverick]

He coached badly on Saturday night.

First time this year I thought the same.
His use of Dempster was strange at best.
The match up of BJ on O'Keefe bothered me too.

[rexy]

Could of understood it if he'd taken a job with Melbourne.
Could have understood it if he hadn't gotten sacked by HIS management company.

The way it happened has left me thinking WTF? I doubt we'll lose to Fremantle in a while....

On a sidenote:
Does anyone know if his management company now has a right to sue him for the money they lost with him negotiating behind their backs?

If he's under contract with them, is he allowed to negotiate behind their back?

Sensible question? Do they get a cut of the earnings or are they on a set fee?

[kaos theory]

Apparently didn't know a thing about it.

Man of integrity. - lol

ESP has sacked him for negotiating behind their backs.

3.5 million by Freo for first year and 1 mill for the next three.

Whew.

We know the price of his soul.

Have you ever left a job for money? I certainly have and didnt give a stuff about the company. Only cared about my mates when I left and still see them now.

If you leave to go to competition you don't stay there and lie to your colleagues & management. You make it known, and let the management decide if they want you to stay on. And almost always they will show you the door & walk you out!

Yep but you dont tell them until you have 100% got the job. Are you saying he should have left 4 weeks before the finals? If you reckon it is bad know imagine that.

Oh come on, he knew he had that job in the bag for a while. Its not like Freo wouldn't jump to have him. He wasn't going for an interview with several other prime candidates, he was the candidate.

[SaintPav]

Yep but you dont tell them until you have 100% got the job. Are you saying he should have left 4 weeks before the finals? If you reckon it is bad know imagine that.

Maybe we know now why he coached in his words 'so poorly' v Sydney, as his head and heart were elsewhere.

Lets face it 99% of people wouldnt of had a clue if he coached poorly on Saturday unless he told us but lets wait for all the hindsighters to say i though he coached poorly.

He said he lost the game at the selection table.

I also didn't agree with some of his match ups and moves including starting Dempster in the forward line.

No offence, but does someone have to die for you to fire up?

[Teflon]

Ross Lyon MUSTVE instigated the offer cause as far as his management knew they were dealing with St Kilda.

IF Freo were going to get Lyon - wouldnt they call his management so they'd also know??????

IF Not old Ross has shafted Harvey big time...

[older saint]

Very average bloke

[plugger66]

Yep but you dont tell them until you have 100% got the job. Are you saying he should have left 4 weeks before the finals? If you reckon it is bad know imagine that.

Maybe we know now why he coached in his words 'so poorly' v Sydney, as his head and heart were elsewhere.

Lets face it 99% of people wouldnt of had a clue if he coached poorly on Saturday unless he told us but lets wait for all the hindsighters to say i though he coached poorly.

He said he lost the game at the selection table.

I also didn't agree with some of his match ups and moves including starting Dempster in the forward line.

No offence, but does someone have to die for you to fire up?

I Understand why coaches and players leave. Probably being involved with the club for a few years does that. I have seen many friends get the axe so people I dont know leaving means f*** all to me.

[SaintPav]

I'm not even that POed about the fact that he's no longer our coach (well I am disappointed because I think he's a gun), but it's more that I genuinely believed he was a man of integrity, honesty, etc in a sea of cliches and media beatups. That's all been ripped away, it feels soul-destroying.

But of course, it's a business. We move on. We need to move on quickly though. Hell of a lot of competition for good coaches at the moment.

Noice avatar....very noice...

[saintly]

i hope he gets the sack from freo during his 5 year contract. he would never get a job again as coach! noone would trust him to honour anything