Saints V Swans...Game Thread (with live scores!!!!)

samoht · Post: # 1134513Post **samoht** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:47pm

Swans deserve the win.,, they've out-tackled us.

Hawks should be worried.

spert · Post: # 1134514Post **spert** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:48pm

A good pointer to what players won't take us to a premiership

matrix · Post: # 1134516Post **matrix** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:50pm

oh my god was that some run and decent disposal???

bobmurray · Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:50pm

spert wrote:A good pointer to what players won't take us to a premiership

Ross knows that...that might be why he said we have to cut deep...has he got the nads to do it or will he bail and go to the demons and leave it for someone else......

bigred · Post: # 1134518Post **bigred** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:50pm

This game probably sums up the year.

Decent chance to reload now...

But that's pretty annoying.

fugazi · Post: # 1134519Post **fugazi** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:51pm

Brave season Saints, great ticker, not for want of effort boys.

saintbob · Post: # 1134521Post **saintbob** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:51pm

Yet another great Captains game

By Goodes

desertsaint · Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:51pm

would've been nice to get a few games into walsh this year.
beaten by a team prepared to play youth for more than a few token games.
roo hopefully back next year. he's a liability this year.

good effort to play finals, but well off the pace.

Schillaci · Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:51pm

Time for bed I think. Nearly midnight here in NZ. Time to hibernate for the Summer. Next year Saints....****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

StSteven · Post: # 1134525Post **StSteven** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:52pm

fugazi wrote:Brave season Saints, great ticker, not for want of effort boys.

Wtf...crap season....gutless.

desertsaint · Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:52pm

nice goal to dal, but game is over and swans are resting.

fugazi · Post: # 1134528Post **fugazi** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:52pm

"beaten by a team prepared to play youth for more than a few token games."

good point

GoTheTorp · Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:54pm

Yawn!!!

bobmurray · Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:54pm

fugazi wrote:"beaten by a team prepared to play youth for more than a few token games."

good point

All our "good" youth broke down and ended up in the infirmary so "he" went for the tried and true.....

baf · Post: # 1134533Post **baf** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:54pm

time for the culling

fugazi · Post: # 1134535Post **fugazi** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:55pm

Pretty easy to say gutless from your easy chair St Steven...we were 1 win from 8...gutsy effort to get to host a final....

matrix · Post: # 1134536Post **matrix** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:55pm

f***
we were so looking forward to coming over, catching up and seeing some footy

not happy

bring on the NBL season

desertsaint · Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:55pm

well that's that.
beaten by a better team.
those umps better not get another finals gig.

Armoooo · Post: # 1134539Post **Armoooo** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:56pm

Can't take anything away from the swans, they did what they had to. I hope they go all the way.

Old Mate · Post: # 1134544Post **Old Mate** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:57pm

baf wrote:time for the culling

Hope so however won't happen with Ross at the helm.

samoht · Post: # 1134547Post **samoht** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:58pm

bobmurray wrote:
fugazi wrote:"beaten by a team prepared to play youth for more than a few token games."

good point
All our "good" youth broke down and ended up in the infirmary so "he" went for the tried and true.....

They ended in the infirmary because Siposs and Ledger etc.. were played one time too many... given their young bodies.
= whereas Walsh who was physically ready was mysteriously overlooked.

StSteven · Post: # 1134548Post **StSteven** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 10:58pm

fugazi wrote:Pretty easy to say gutless from your easy chair St Steven...we were 1 win from 8...gutsy effort to get to host a final....

I am not comparing them to my easy chair, comparing them to other teams eg Geelong who we were supposed to be better than.

kalsaint · Post: # 1134572Post **kalsaint** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 11:06pm

desertsaint wrote:would've been nice to get a few games into walsh this year.
beaten by a team prepared to play youth for more than a few token games.
roo hopefully back next year. he's a liability this year.

good effort to play finals, but well off the pace.

Yeah I think you have summarised this well. Roo has the endeavour to run but he injury has caused loss of break out speed to hold marks away from his opponent. He also tries to take way too many marks on his chest (that he doesnt get). Too easy for defenders. He leads to much to pockets and therefore doesnt provide scoreboard pressure.

He is far from alone. Several passengers need to go.

The coach also needs to make change when the same team beat us with the same team selection and and same clearance pattern. Nothind changed in our selection to adjust this. Gardiner got a run last week, where was he this week? Not playing. Clearances are a major problem. When we do get the ball we often hand it straight to opposition players, even without pressure at times. Is that because the opposition is talking better? Probably based on what I saw tonight.

Bombing the ball forward is another unfortunate occurrence. Loopy kicks in thebackline cause unnecessary player pressure and stops any creativity. We need to learn to counter one on one footy. There is no game plan for this. The Swans do it brilliantly, they protect the ball carrier. I saw this many times in the Swans defence tonight that actually allowed quick ball clearances and movement to the forwards.

We weren't good enough in 2011 but quite some margin. I'm sort of glad we dont advance as I suspect we would get a thrashing later given our poor kicking skills, inability to create, take risks and take our chances in front of goal by key forwards.

Theres plenty to do for 2012.

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kalsaint · Post: # 1134691Post **kalsaint** » Sat 10 Sep 2011 11:43pm

bassoon wrote:What we need is players who can bloody kick the ball to teammates. The effort has been there but the disposal is what you would expect from a bottom four side. We should have had three or four goals in the first, with Roo missing before three quarter time, and even Goddard making disposal errors. We have many gutsy players, but we have many players with no brains. This mob can't win a Premiership, and its time to completely rebuild.

Saints have little forward structure and tend to support defence with the midfield so much that we run out of legs or speed to contain the opposition.

We still need to learn to spread and run. So often we kick backwards and forwards in defence before advancing. No creativity here and easy to read and defend by the opposition. It makes it hard for Roo with 3 players hanging off him but he needs to stop doing so much wasteful running to pockets or across the half forward line. Without other players there he always will have a battle. Needs a Gehrig, Fevola or some other to mix it up a bit.