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True Blue Sainter wrote:This does nothing for the balance of the side.
Another tall?
Kosi, Mac & Gardiner?!
Walsh would have been the best option, closely followed by Baker or someone like Heyne to get a run.
It's actually incredibly sensible.
If we get a big man injury in the finals, you'd want to know we have another option who is right to go.
Lots of teams have played backup players to give them some touch, you just have to be prepared.
If we lose this though, there may only be one more week and baring injury he couldnt play in that game. Team lacks balance.
I agree with P66.
We NEED to win this game to guarantee a home final. To do that we need players with a big tank who can run games out. An athletic tall (like Walsh) would have given us another option up forward would have been a useful inclusion. A small defender (Bakes) could have taken Betts. Another runner like Heyne would have helped to deal with their pace in the middle of the ground.
Baffling selection. We have far too many tall, lumbering players in this lineup - Gardiner, Dawson, Kosi, McEvoy and Blake = nearly a quarter of the team.
gringo wrote:MG is a very good player when available and will be used as a forward with a pinch hit ruck role IMO. Ben might get the chop out across half back role. If we are going to make a dent on the finals MG is a very handy in, Walsh may be anything but he is not just a novice in the AFL he is a novice at the game it's self. I think he might not be in until next year now guys. Sorry.
Can you tell me the last time MG did anything up forward and what does Ben do helping at HB. He is a ruckman whjo can play 20 minutes forward. MG is a ruckman who cant play forward. I hope Ben is out to be honest otherwise we are far to big especially given the forcast of wind.
How did he go round 14 2009 up forward?
How did Ben go round 22 in Sydney?
gringo wrote:MG is a very good player when available and will be used as a forward with a pinch hit ruck role IMO. Ben might get the chop out across half back role. If we are going to make a dent on the finals MG is a very handy in, Walsh may be anything but he is not just a novice in the AFL he is a novice at the game it's self. I think he might not be in until next year now guys. Sorry.
Can you tell me the last time MG did anything up forward and what does Ben do helping at HB. He is a ruckman whjo can play 20 minutes forward. MG is a ruckman who cant play forward. I hope Ben is out to be honest otherwise we are far to big especially given the forcast of wind.
How did he go round 14 2009 up forward?
How did Ben go round 22 in Sydney?
2009 is a long time ago, we were a different team and Gards was a different player. Thats like saying Blake is a star up forward because he kicked 3 against Hawthorn in 08
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gringo wrote:MG is a very good player when available and will be used as a forward with a pinch hit ruck role IMO. Ben might get the chop out across half back role. If we are going to make a dent on the finals MG is a very handy in, Walsh may be anything but he is not just a novice in the AFL he is a novice at the game it's self. I think he might not be in until next year now guys. Sorry.
Can you tell me the last time MG did anything up forward and what does Ben do helping at HB. He is a ruckman whjo can play 20 minutes forward. MG is a ruckman who cant play forward. I hope Ben is out to be honest otherwise we are far to big especially given the forcast of wind.
How did he go round 14 2009 up forward?
How did Ben go round 22 in Sydney?
In round 14 he kicked 2 of his 3 goals whilst rucking not as a resting forward. He cant lead and contested marks are finished for guys who cant jump. Ben went terrible in round 22. How did Joey go? I dont get your point.
Wrapped for Gards and think it is a good decision going into the finals. Think McEvoy should have been rested as part of the decision but no matter this weekend's game is not do or die
gringo wrote:MG is a very good player when available and will be used as a forward with a pinch hit ruck role IMO. Ben might get the chop out across half back role. If we are going to make a dent on the finals MG is a very handy in, Walsh may be anything but he is not just a novice in the AFL he is a novice at the game it's self. I think he might not be in until next year now guys. Sorry.
Can you tell me the last time MG did anything up forward and what does Ben do helping at HB. He is a ruckman whjo can play 20 minutes forward. MG is a ruckman who cant play forward. I hope Ben is out to be honest otherwise we are far to big especially given the forcast of wind.
How did he go round 14 2009 up forward?
How did Ben go round 22 in Sydney?
2009 is a long time ago, we were a different team and Gards was a different player. Thats like saying Blake is a star up forward because he kicked 3 against Hawthorn in 08
For weeks people have been saying that Ben needs help in the ruck, we need a second ruck, Blake/Kosi cant ruck ect. Gardi comes in to provide the second ruck option and people are saying we are too tall?
Cant have it both ways
BANG BANG
Mitsuharu Misawa 1962 - 2009.
I am vengeance....I am the night...I....AM.....BATMAN
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass and im all out of bubblegum
gringo wrote:MG is a very good player when available and will be used as a forward with a pinch hit ruck role IMO. Ben might get the chop out across half back role. If we are going to make a dent on the finals MG is a very handy in, Walsh may be anything but he is not just a novice in the AFL he is a novice at the game it's self. I think he might not be in until next year now guys. Sorry.
Can you tell me the last time MG did anything up forward and what does Ben do helping at HB. He is a ruckman whjo can play 20 minutes forward. MG is a ruckman who cant play forward. I hope Ben is out to be honest otherwise we are far to big especially given the forcast of wind.
How did he go round 14 2009 up forward?
How did Ben go round 22 in Sydney?
In round 14 he kicked 2 of his 3 goals whilst rucking not as a resting forward. He cant lead and contested marks are finished for guys who cant jump. Ben went terrible in round 22. How did Joey go? I dont get your point.
I don't think Ben is ready for the monsters yet and at the end of games it shows. Both Sydney and the Pies have them. Sat night will show if MG has anything left to give.
Ben should be the sub IMO.
The sub thing is BS, we have neither doiminated or been chopped up with them.
gringo wrote:MG is a very good player when available and will be used as a forward with a pinch hit ruck role IMO. Ben might get the chop out across half back role. If we are going to make a dent on the finals MG is a very handy in, Walsh may be anything but he is not just a novice in the AFL he is a novice at the game it's self. I think he might not be in until next year now guys. Sorry.
Can you tell me the last time MG did anything up forward and what does Ben do helping at HB. He is a ruckman whjo can play 20 minutes forward. MG is a ruckman who cant play forward. I hope Ben is out to be honest otherwise we are far to big especially given the forcast of wind.
How did he go round 14 2009 up forward?
How did Ben go round 22 in Sydney?
2009 is a long time ago, we were a different team and Gards was a different player. Thats like saying Blake is a star up forward because he kicked 3 against Hawthorn in 08
He asked for the last time.
Yeah and im saying the last time was a long time ago and Gards and the team were alot different.
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gringo wrote:MG is a very good player when available and will be used as a forward with a pinch hit ruck role IMO. Ben might get the chop out across half back role. If we are going to make a dent on the finals MG is a very handy in, Walsh may be anything but he is not just a novice in the AFL he is a novice at the game it's self. I think he might not be in until next year now guys. Sorry.
Can you tell me the last time MG did anything up forward and what does Ben do helping at HB. He is a ruckman whjo can play 20 minutes forward. MG is a ruckman who cant play forward. I hope Ben is out to be honest otherwise we are far to big especially given the forcast of wind.
How did he go round 14 2009 up forward?
How did Ben go round 22 in Sydney?
In round 14 he kicked 2 of his 3 goals whilst rucking not as a resting forward. He cant lead and contested marks are finished for guys who cant jump. Ben went terrible in round 22. How did Joey go? I dont get your point.
I don't think Ben is ready for the monsters yet and at the end of games it shows. Both Sydney and the Pies have them. Sat night will show if MG has anything left to give.
Ben should be the sub IMO.
The sub thing is BS, we have neither doiminated or been chopped up with them.
That is what I would like to see.
Give Gardi and Ben half a game each.
Gives Ben a bit of a rest and allows us to see if Gardi can still go and be a factor. If he cant we always have JB and Kosi who can at least provide a contest
BANG BANG
Mitsuharu Misawa 1962 - 2009.
I am vengeance....I am the night...I....AM.....BATMAN
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass and im all out of bubblegum
Hurricane wrote:For weeks people have been saying that Ben needs help in the ruck, we need a second ruck, Blake/Kosi cant ruck ect. Gardi comes in to provide the second ruck option and people are saying we are too tall?
Cant have it both ways
BANG BANG
Shouldn't have Blake in the team then. Too much tall timber. I hope Armo gets a gig in the finals. I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't selected going on Ross Lyon's form.
McEvoy, Gardiner - and the injured Stanley but only because of his height.
And I would not mind having a lazy flutter that we see Stanley at CHB in 2012.
Gardiner has played 180 games during his career, so he has been lightly used and that means he may very well have another year in him - including because what are our ruck options?
Another point. Kosi has reinvented himself in the last few months playing as a second ruck. Potentially Gards selection could impact his form as well. Silly, crazy selection.
