The slow news day story- Raph

[saintbrat]

it's becoming easy to pick the slowest news day of the week
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 6126086183

must take them a while to go over the tape

the other Mid week story that reoccurs is Who is going to GWS

[dcstkfc]

The Saints, who were languishing at 1-8 before storming home, will clinch a home final if they defeat Carlton on Saturday night.

Funny I don't recall this

[bozza1980]

The Saints, who were languishing at 1-8 before storming home, will clinch a home final if they defeat Carlton on Saturday night.

Funny I don't recall this

It has been a common thread amongst the press to misrepresent the true horror of our start to 2011.

Having 1 win after 8 rounds, with careful forgetting of byes and draws, was turned into 1-7 and now the Hun have buggered it up completely, 1-8 I don't think so, after Rd 9 we were 2-1-5.

Anyway, it does sound like a much better run coming from 1-8.

[AnythingsPossibleSaints]

Are they not aware that Frankston is about 7 minutes up the road from Seaford? And beautiful and secluded (not to mention high-end and very wealthy) Mt Eliza (where Banger lives), another 5 minutes from there? Plenty of cafe's (and a whole shopping centre and precinct in Frankston) in those areas. If they have that couple of hours to kill, travelling to those spots would take up as little as 15 mins of that time, with the drive from Frankston to Mt Eliza especially nice, first going up Oliver's Hill, overlooking the sea, then along the winding road through the heavily treed areas.

[borderbarry]

Iimagine within a few years that the majority of our players will be living on the Mornington Peninsular.

[B W and R all over]

Are they also aware that most of the working population quite often spend at least nine hours straight at their place of work, five times a week for a fraction of what AFL players are paid?

[samwell]

Are they also aware that most of the working population quite often spend at least nine hours straight at their place of work, five times a week for a fraction of what AFL players are paid?

haha yeah exactly what i was thinking - poor things having to spend 6-7 hours straight with their teammates and not being able to get away - how do they manage!!

[AnythingsPossibleSaints]

To be fair, I could see how you could easily get bored if you had to hang around Seaford all day, with time to kill, but as I said, with Frankston and Mt Eliza within 15 mins, they have little excuse for not finding something to do/somewhere to go.
For those who play golf, there are also the Long Island and Peninsula Country Clubs within 5-6 mins, which both have championship quality, top-100-in-the-country courses, in very relaxing and beautiful natural bush settings. They could join up at one of those and wander down there when they have a couple of hours to kill. They have excellent practise facilities and also bistro's, or whatever, in the clubhouses, for lunch. The Goddards and Fishers etc. would have a ball.

[GrumpyOne]

To be fair, I could see how you could easily get bored if you had to hang around Seaford all day, with time to kill, but as I said, with Frankston and Mt Eliza within 15 mins, they have little excuse for not finding something to do/somewhere to go.
For those who play golf, there are also the Long Island and Peninsula Country Clubs within 5-6 mins, which both have championship quality courses in very relaxing and beautiful natural bush settings. They could join up at one of those and wander down there when they have a couple of hours to kill. They have excellent practise facilities and also bistro's, or whatever, in the clubhouses, for lunch. The Goddards and Fishers etc. would have a ball.

They could always practise goalkicking.

[AnythingsPossibleSaints]

They're not allowed to!

So they may just have to settle for practising their putting and swings instead.

[Sainternist]

And speaking of whingeing - notice the whingeing from people commenting on the article?

Now I'm whingeing about the whingers

[desertsaint]

And speaking of whingeing - notice the whingeing from people commenting on the article?

Now I'm whingeing about the whingers

wait for the whingers whinging about whingers whinging about whinging!

[Iceman234]

Are they also aware that most of the working population quite often spend at least nine hours straight at their place of work, five times a week for a fraction of what AFL players are paid?

My sentiments exactly and I hope Raphs comments were taken out of context. I travel 40 ks each way to work and including travel time am away for 12-13 hours per day and god forbid I work with the same people every day, it's so damned hard...

[plugger66]

Are they also aware that most of the working population quite often spend at least nine hours straight at their place of work, five times a week for a fraction of what AFL players are paid?

My sentiments exactly and I hope Raphs comments were taken out of context. I travel 40 ks each way to work and including travel time am away for 12-13 hours per day and god forbid I work with the same people every day, it's so damned hard...

But you do work. I worked for the governement and we were waiting for a redundancy to be given and as such had bugger all work. We just about all went insane. Now if these guys do there 2 hours training and are just waiting aroung doing nothing to the next session I would suggest that isnt a good environment to then go out and train at 100%. I think that is more the issue than the travel part especially as only the older guys now live a fair way from the ground. All the younger guys are closer to the ground now.

[saintbrat]

Are they also aware that most of the working population quite often spend at least nine hours straight at their place of work, five times a week for a fraction of what AFL players are paid?

My sentiments exactly and I hope Raphs comments were taken out of context. I travel 40 ks each way to work and including travel time am away for 12-13 hours per day and god forbid I work with the same people every day, it's so damned hard...

if AW ever put up the podcast you can listen for yourselves- taken in context not blatant as a whinge as being suggested- Just part of the overall niggles that were building at the start of the year.... But the interviewer - as many have- took that part of the interview - the journo has also only spoken of that comment..Raph actually did quite well.
but given one interviewer couldn't remember who the St Kilda Captain was don't necesarily think they can stick the facetious responses in too far

some of the Players have already moved down that way or further- or already lived in the area- so drive home after a night game would be almost as far as some country supporters do-

[BigMart]

Great cafe on the seaford beach.....go there a lot with my wife and enjoy a sinny latte.....Whilst looking out onto the bay

[Dr Spaceman]

To be fair, I could see how you could easily get bored if you had to hang around Seaford all day, with time to kill, but as I said, with Frankston and Mt Eliza within 15 mins, they have little excuse for not finding something to do/somewhere to go.
For those who play golf, there are also the Long Island and Peninsula Country Clubs within 5-6 mins, which both have championship quality courses in very relaxing and beautiful natural bush settings. They could join up at one of those and wander down there when they have a couple of hours to kill. They have excellent practise facilities and also bistro's, or whatever, in the clubhouses, for lunch. The Goddards and Fishers etc. would have a ball.

They could always practise goalkicking.

[saintly]

Are they also aware that most of the working population quite often spend at least nine hours straight at their place of work, five times a week for a fraction of what AFL players are paid?

My sentiments exactly and I hope Raphs comments were taken out of context. I travel 40 ks each way to work and including travel time am away for 12-13 hours per day and god forbid I work with the same people every day, it's so damned hard...

if AW ever put up the podcast you can listen for yourselves- taken in context not blatant as a whinge as being suggested- Just part of the overall niggles that were building at the start of the year.... But the interviewer - as many have- took that part of the interview - the journo has also only spoken of that comment..Raph actually did quite well.
but given one interviewer couldn't remember who the St Kilda Captain was don't necesarily think they can stick the facetious responses in too far

some of the Players have already moved down that way or further- or already lived in the area- so drive home after a night game would be almost as far as some country supporters do-

it was on sport 927 and the podcast is up. it was not taken out of context. that was what Raph said!!!

[Winmar]

I didn't read it as a whinge, more a recollection that the players weren't entirely happy earlier in the year, before realising they needed to harden TF up. To be honest I wouldn't be happy either if I lived near my place of work, but the organisation decided to move that far down the road.

[saintbrat]

correct saintly I was wrong

[skeptic]

that's embarrassing then

looks like a change in attitude (stopped acting like a bunch of primaddonas) coincided with a change in form

who'd da funk it

[SainterK]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/h ... 6126990307

ST KILDA midfielder Farren Ray has rejected suggestions that a need to accept the club's isolated Seaford training complex was a factor in the team's revival.
Ray's teammate Raphael Clarke said earlier this week that a vow from the players to stop whingeing about their new headquarters had kick-started the turnaround.

But Ray said that the Saints' return to form was instigated by hard work.

"I think the whole Seaford thing has been blown out of proportion to be honest,'' Ray told Triple M.

"I think when we started thinking, 'It's all about us' and once we started training harder and getting Monday to Friday right, I think that's when it started happening.

[matrix]

gee
hmm
lets see

loading and unloading shipping containers full of piss
or
playing footy, eating training and relaxing

tough choice
rough gig

[meher baba]

It doesn't matter what any of us think should be the players' attitude towards training at Seaford: Raph's comment indicates that it's quite clearly an issue for them and the club will need to address it or it will be in trouble.

Modern day footballers are prima donnas. Operatic prima donnas (the late great Maria Callas being perhaps the prime example) are known to demand all sorts of unreasonable things or else they won't sing. Childish, silly, selfish - call it whatever you like - but the story always ends the same way: you have to give in to their demands, or they don't sing.

[GrumpyOne]

It doesn't matter what any of us think should be the players' attitude towards training at Seaford: Raph's comment indicates that it's quite clearly an issue for them and the club will need to address it or it will be in trouble.

Modern day footballers are prima donnas. Operatic prima donnas (the late great Maria Callas being perhaps the prime example) are known to demand all sorts of unreasonable things or else they won't sing. Childish, silly, selfish - call it whatever you like - but the story always ends the same way: you have to give in to their demands, or they don't sing.

Stan Alves had it right.

If they don't want to embrace the club, warts and all, we're better off without them.