Fev: The Should or Shouldn't Debate

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Fev in a Saints Jumper?

yes, no questions asked
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yes, with a serious water tight contract in case of idiotness
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nope, deadwood, a useless unfit loser
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maybe, i trust whatever the recruit dept does tho
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Fev: The Should or Shouldn't Debate

Post: # 1126121Post matrix »

yeah i know
d**khead
we have some youth coming thru (sip, tommy, rhys) so we dont need him
cant be trusted
yadda yadda yadda


but what if he came seriously cheap?
what if the contract was water tight with 'one f*** up (list f*** ups) and you are out mate" on the final dotted line??
what if he committed to fitness and all that goes with seriously having a decent effort and crack in the contract???


yeah yeah
kicked 11 and 6 and 5 over the last few in the vfl
but he's fat lazy and unfit and prob still unmotivated a bit and no ones sure if he can be trusted

hmmmm
vote away 8-)


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Post: # 1126126Post PaytonPlace »

Well can we keep a rookie list spot open, see how he trains, and then make a decision?

That'd be the best way to go

Don't like the stories you hear about him hanging abuse on kids at Carlton doing extra training sessions and weights though....

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Post: # 1126130Post Ralphy »

NOTE:
he isnt the only player to abuse supporter's we have some that do it themselves.....
But yes i believe he still has what it takes, and would do alot better then our current full forward...


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Post: # 1126133Post spert »

I would never have thought a VFL plodder like Podsiadly would have got an AFL game, but Geelong saw the need to for a big body at FF and it has paid off.. you get the players you need to do a certain job.


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Post: # 1126143Post Batnoe »

Yes,

If he can kick 11 goals in a game with VFL standard deliveries then he may be able to kick 11 goals for St kilda with the same delivery!


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Post: # 1126144Post Dr Spaceman »

Batnoe wrote:Yes,

If he can kick 11 goals in a game with VFL standard deliveries then he may be able to kick 11 goals for St kilda with the same delivery!
You need to factor in AFL Full Back v VFL Full Back though 8-)


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Post: # 1126148Post paddy »

12 months only, for one last tilt at the flag using our current list, then go into rebuild mode.


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Post: # 1126154Post markp »

Yes, if he passes all the 'ifs'....


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Post: # 1126160Post Go Sainters Go »

I reckon Fev would be fantastic for us out of the square, as a Rookie on a 12 month contract with no grog/no gambling conditions in it and a fitness level requirement to be reached by the end of pre season.
If he reaches the required fitness level and has complied with all other conditions, he would be elevated to the senior list however, if he doesn't comply with all the conditions, he's out on his ear.
Just imagine how much pressure he would take off Rooey, enormous. Let's not forget, the stronger the contract the better for StKFC and for Fev himself. As a kid, he was a Saints supporter.


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Post: # 1126161Post bigcarl »

Where would this leave Tommy? No from me


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Post: # 1126163Post mad saint guy »

If he comes cheap then absolutely. We have plenty of dead wood on our list and by all reports there won't be too much depth in the draft, so if we can snare a potential 70-goal FF with a 5th round pick then I think the benefits outweigh the negatives. There will be media scrutiny but if Lyon's "bubble" really works then that shouldn't be an issue.

I believe 2012 is our last crack at a flag for quite a while and we won't win one by playing it safe all the time.


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Post: # 1126165Post Grrrrr »

No from me...

Would hate for another "Andrew Lovett" scandal to rock the club.


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Post: # 1126166Post SainterK »

No from me.

Hasn't Ross constantly said we are in a transition phase?

Blending the new and the existing?

I'd much rather go after someone younger, that will compliment the likes of the Farren, Goddard, Gwilt, Gilbert, McEvoy, Steven, Armo group...when the older guys retire.


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Post: # 1126171Post St Chris »

I reckon I've seen enough this year to know.....

The time to rebuild is now.

No more GOP's being role-players, no more fillers, no more "second chances".

Time for our recruitment staff to go and find some real quality kids around the country. I think we've started pretty well with this years' crop, and Siposs looks to be a steal at pick 75.

I don't think we've employed Chris Pelchen to continue finding stop-gaps from other lists. Lets trade aggressively for a bunch of quality picks over the next 2-3 years, and if it means we lose some quality now, so be it. Does it mean finishing bottom 2 for the next 5 seasons, certainly not.

I still think this is the best way to win our next flag.


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Post: # 1126177Post noob »

I'd put him on the rookie list.


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Post: # 1126185Post SENsei »

I've always been against short term, mature age recruiting.

But.

I reckon this is exactly what we, and Roo, needs. A strong bodied, strong leading goal kicker as a foil.

I say, go get him.


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Post: # 1126189Post GoTheTorp »

I have said no all along, but the way our big forwards are traveling bahh. I say go for it with more conditions than the Geneva convention and only on a 1 year contract, and we pick him up for less than the cost of a slab.


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Post: # 1126193Post prwilkinson »

Time to roll the dice, next year is our last shot before this core group move on. No point dying wondering. It also frees up Walsh to play somewhere else and Kosi to play in the ruck... Seems a great fit.


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Post: # 1126195Post skeptic »

only makes sense if he comes cheap


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Post: # 1126198Post gringo »

Yes, if he was cheap why wouldn't you. It's just like the stock market, put some in up and coming speculatives, some in under valued blue chips, and a little high risk high gain on the side and you get the right mix of safe and speculative.


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Post: # 1126199Post StNoodles »

Can't see how he WON'T come cheap. Worth a punt in our last real tilt.


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Post: # 1126204Post stevie »

Two years ago yes

Even though it's irrelevant, I've always believed Adelaide would've won the 05 and 06 flags with a guy like Fev.


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Post: # 1126211Post SydneySainter »

Yes, if he's cheap and the contract is watertight.

That being said, is there such a thing as a watertight contract? It's all very well to have a 'no d**khead' clause in the contract, but it all comes down to how you defy d**khead behaviour and I guarantee you something, the AFLPA will not be on our side.


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Post: # 1126215Post saintdooley »

My God. imagine if we picked up Fev.

This club has already got a s*** past, currently we are pretty s***, we have had to put up with s*** all year for all sorts of reasons, why would we want more s***? Is Fev really the answer to a Premiership? or just more trouble down the track. Seriously.

I love the guy, hes a great bloke to have a chat to but come on, get real. He is not the answer to what we are looking for.


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bigcarl wrote:Where would this leave Tommy? No from me

3rd tall.....perfect !


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