I gotta agree with this. Not sure he could be much worse than who we've been trying. I'm a bit confused as to what the selectors are worried about with him. They were happy to try Archer and Johnson at the start of the year, why not give Tommy a go? Bit disheartening for the boy.stinger wrote:i remember a similar situation with milney when he was on the rookie list and kicking goals each week in the ressies.....many on here were making calls similar to those now being made on tommy......we were all told that the club knew best...that milney wasn't ready....that we were only armchair experts.....that there was no certainty that he was even up to it..
...in the end the club relented...promoted him to he seniors and gave him a run...the rest is history as they say.....
give the boy a chance ross...ffs.....
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yeah, easier to drop someone who hasn't gotten over something (e.g. gastro) than name walsh and then replace him with someone who's feeling better.Dr Spaceman wrote:Buckets wrote:You would think that Walsh has the opportunity this week as surely there will be a late change or two by saturday night.
Could well be planned. Lessen the hype/expectation/pressure.
that said, still not feeling that he will be named.
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Add to this Lynch who had 5 chances to show what he had this year .. but seems to lack the necessary pace for AFL. - ( couldn't Walsh have got one of those chances ????).Moods wrote:
They were happy to try Archer and Johnson at the start of the year, why not give Tommy a go? Bit disheartening for the boy.
Tommy Walsh we know is quick - so he should have comparatively speaking a much better chance to make the successful transition to AFL... you'd think.
Plus does our slowish team need more pace (Walsh) or even less pace (Lynch) ? Gee that's a real hard one to answer isn't it !!
Maybe selectors don't think ? .. maybe the best decisions are made by us experts sitting comfortably on our armchairs with our remote controls after all ?
What else is there to conclude ???
The selectors need throttling or Lynching !!
Why? Do you know more than the selectors and the two head coaches (at Sandy and St.Kilda)?barks4eva wrote:Hope he comes in as a late change, but should have been in as far back as round 8!
He was playing as a back in Round 8 but everybody now wants him in as a forward
Have you even seen him play since the preseason?
Desperate much?
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joffaboy wrote:Why? Do you know more than the selectors and the two head coaches (at Sandy and St.Kilda)?barks4eva wrote:Hope he comes in as a late change, but should have been in as far back as round 8!
He was playing as a back in Round 8 but everybody now wants him in as a forward
Have you even seen him play since the preseason?
Desperate much?
Are you the resident apologist with tugger these days?
Walsh is almost 24yo, has the build to play AFL right now, has been consistently good and deserves an opportunity.
Even Lyon offered that he is getting frustrated with his lack of opportunity!!!!!!!!
The way you carry on, it's like no one ever in a position of power ever makes a mistake so we should never question anything.
As regards politics you're forever questioning, why is it so different when it comes to football?
Perhaps it's because your knowledge base in football matters is extremely limited so you just blindly follow.
Just asking some pretty simple questions.barks4eva wrote: Are you the resident apologist with tugger these days?
You state he should have been there since R8, I asked why?
But thats OK, when you habe nothing, play the man
Again just affirmation. I ask how do you know? have you seen him play? Do you know more than the two head coaches?barks4eva wrote: Walsh is almost 24yo, has the build to play AFL right now, has been consistently good and deserves an opportunity.
As for being 24. He has played maybe 30 games of Australian Rules football.
Jim Stynes played 50 VFA games for Prahran and became a star. Setanta O'Hailpin was rushed in too early by Carlton and his true potential was never fully realised.
Oh well there you go, you take one line from Lyon, deconstruct and decontextualise it and use it as your only reason.barks4eva wrote: Even Lyon offered that he is getting frustrated with his lack of opportunity!!!!!!!!
Oh look absolutes and playign the man again.barks4eva wrote: The way you carry on, it's like no one ever in a position of power ever makes a mistake so we should never question anything.
What a load of bollocks
Lyon has made plenty of mistakes and will continue to do so.Instead of attacking me, why dont you answer the question? have you seen Walsh play since preseason? Do you know more than the selectors and the two coaches at the Saints?
Two simple questions that you dont seem to have the capacity to answer.
Wonder why not???
What does this even mean?barks4eva wrote: As regards politics you're forever questioning, why is it so different when it comes to football?
Again playing the man.barks4eva wrote: Perhaps it's because your knowledge base in football matters is extremely limited so you just blindly follow.
Just answer the questions, or have you been caught out
As for Tom Walsh. I would love to see him play, and I hope he plays for us for 8 seasons.
You can insult and play the man and dodge the simple questions, facts are you haven't a clue about Tom Walsh have you?
Lance or James??
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Leo.J wrote:I can't believe Rix hasn't been picked.
SNAP
Lance or James??
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The question needs to be asked .. could Walsh have been tried once instead of giving 5 goes to Lynch (this season) who struggles with the pace at AFL level.
Our team needs pace ... why not give Walsh one run instead of going back to the same player who struggles himself and adds no pace to the team.
No one knows how he'll cope or if he'll succeed - but we know about Lynch.
Let's find out about Walsh !!!!
Just 1 go ... come on ! .. fair crack of the whip.
Our team needs pace ... why not give Walsh one run instead of going back to the same player who struggles himself and adds no pace to the team.
No one knows how he'll cope or if he'll succeed - but we know about Lynch.
Let's find out about Walsh !!!!
Just 1 go ... come on ! .. fair crack of the whip.
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The whole Rix thing was largely tongue in cheek, which laterally challenged, slow on the uptake posters mostly only capable of shooting blanks keep trotting out!Leo.J wrote:I can't believe Rix hasn't been picked.
Who was it on here in 2005 who called for Thomas to be sacked so we could get a FAIR DINKUM coach when nearly all on here were so far up his arse they would need a search and rescue team to extract them!
Then when the snake oil merchant was sacked, you'd be forgiven for thinking the sky had fallen in such was the numb nut response on here.
Today there would hardly be one person on here who with the benefit of hindsight is not glad that Thomas was replaced by Lyon.
I am glad Ross Lyon is coach, BUT it does not mean everything he does is beyond question!
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We are just expressing opinions .. I have no problem with yours Barks.
as long as we don't distort or misrepresent other people's opinions... that's where the game changes.
The people who do that you'll find don't have a strong argument themselves .. and resort to misrepresenting opposing arguments (even mildly opposing ones) just to upset... or incite a reaction.
they actually get their kicks that way.
At the end of the day they just argue with themselves as by deliberately misinterpreting your argument they can't logically be arguing against you - they are in fairytale debate mode with themsleves.
Upsetting fellow sainters is not on... just stick with debating or discussing issues with the majority of sensible posters in this forum - the true sainters.
as long as we don't distort or misrepresent other people's opinions... that's where the game changes.
The people who do that you'll find don't have a strong argument themselves .. and resort to misrepresenting opposing arguments (even mildly opposing ones) just to upset... or incite a reaction.
they actually get their kicks that way.
At the end of the day they just argue with themselves as by deliberately misinterpreting your argument they can't logically be arguing against you - they are in fairytale debate mode with themsleves.
Upsetting fellow sainters is not on... just stick with debating or discussing issues with the majority of sensible posters in this forum - the true sainters.
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Sorry I just couldn't resist.barks4eva wrote:The whole Rix thing was largely tongue in cheek, which laterally challenged, slow on the uptake posters mostly only capable of shooting blanks keep trotting out!Leo.J wrote:I can't believe Rix hasn't been picked.
Who was it on here in 2005 who called for Thomas to be sacked so we could get a FAIR DINKUM coach when nearly all on here were so far up his arse they would need a search and rescue team to extract them!
Then when the snake oil merchant was sacked, you'd be forgiven for thinking the sky had fallen in such was the numb nut response on here.
Today there would hardly be one person on here who with the benefit of hindsight is not glad that Thomas was replaced by Lyon.
I am glad Ross Lyon is coach, BUT it does not mean everything he does is beyond question!
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On Tommy Walsh.......
I am not going to quote my sources and don't shoot the messenger...here is what I have.....
Flame away.
I am not going to quote my sources and don't shoot the messenger...here is what I have.....
One part edited because it would be too obvious as to how it got out.Tommy Walsh hates Ross, ######################.
Was offered a new contract but said there is no point signing it if he wont get played.
They are waiting for Ross to go..
Flame away.
Oh when the saints go charging in!
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Oh well...saint tash wrote:On Tommy Walsh.......
I am not going to quote my sources and don't shoot the messenger...here is what I have.....
One part edited because it would be too obvious as to how it got out.Tommy Walsh hates Ross, ######################.
Was offered a new contract but said there is no point signing it if he wont get played.
They are waiting for Ross to go..
Flame away.
It's not under 10's where everyone is guaranteed a go.
Unfortunately he got injured both times he seemed most likely to get a game.
And now we've got our biggest game for the year... being at the club for a while now he couldn't possibly expect to make his debut under those circumstances, knowing how our selection is always low risk.
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bollockssaint tash wrote:On Tommy Walsh.......
I am not going to quote my sources and don't shoot the messenger...here is what I have.....
One part edited because it would be too obvious as to how it got out.Tommy Walsh hates Ross, ######################.
Was offered a new contract but said there is no point signing it if he wont get played.
They are waiting for Ross to go..
Flame away.
What toshsamoht wrote:We are just expressing opinions .. I have no problem with yours Barks.
as long as we don't distort or misrepresent other people's opinions... that's where the game changes.
The people who do that you'll find don't have a strong argument themselves .. and resort to misrepresenting opposing arguments (even mildly opposing ones) just to upset... or incite a reaction.
they actually get their kicks that way.
At the end of the day they just argue with themselves as by deliberately misinterpreting your argument they can't logically be arguing against you - they are in fairytale debate mode with themsleves.
Upsetting fellow sainters is not on... just stick with debating or discussing issues with the majority of sensible posters in this forum - the true sainters.
You misrepresented yourself.
I asked you the same question I asked barks, have you seen him play. You were so stridant in your view that he should play, that I asked you what it was based on.
You did not (as far as I know) answer this simple question.
You see, you may very well be right, that T.Walsh is an AFL player and is our best 22, and I really hope you are. I have nothing but hope for T.Walsh, but I have seen him play quite a few times in the last 2 years and thought he still had quite a way to go.
However I have not seen him for about 6-8 weeks and not up forward, and the clip of his goals suggested he was ready.
So I simply ask again, have you seen T.Walsh play over the past year to make your judgement on? Really it is a simple question.
Oh and BTW, when T.Walsh get s a go i hope he absolutely rips it apart.
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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C'mon tash, don't be so coysaint tash wrote:On Tommy Walsh.......
I am not going to quote my sources and don't shoot the messenger...here is what I have.....
One part edited because it would be too obvious as to how it got out.Tommy Walsh hates Ross, ######################.
Was offered a new contract but said there is no point signing it if he wont get played.
They are waiting for Ross to go..
Flame away.
Tommy Walsh hates Ross, according to posters on Nick's Bulletin Board.
Was offered a new contract but said there is no point signing it if he wont get played.
They are waiting for Ross to go..
If this is true, do we really need these type of prima donna's at the club?saint tash wrote:On Tommy Walsh.......
I am not going to quote my sources and don't shoot the messenger...here is what I have.....
One part edited because it would be too obvious as to how it got out.Tommy Walsh hates Ross, ######################.
Was offered a new contract but said there is no point signing it if he wont get played.
They are waiting for Ross to go..
Flame away.
(Dont believe it is true though)
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
oh dear - lolDr Spaceman wrote:C'mon tash, don't be so coysaint tash wrote:On Tommy Walsh.......
I am not going to quote my sources and don't shoot the messenger...here is what I have.....
One part edited because it would be too obvious as to how it got out.Tommy Walsh hates Ross, ######################.
Was offered a new contract but said there is no point signing it if he wont get played.
They are waiting for Ross to go..
Flame away.
Tommy Walsh hates Ross, according to posters on Nick's Bulletin Board.
Was offered a new contract but said there is no point signing it if he wont get played.
They are waiting for Ross to go..
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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By the look of it you're missing my point once again.. and you continue to misrepresent me.joffaboy wrote:
You see, you may very well be right, that T.Walsh is an AFL player and is our best 22, and I really hope you are. I have nothing but hope for T.Walsh, but I have seen him play quite a few times in the last 2 years and thought he still had quite a way to go.
So I simply ask again, have you seen T.Walsh play over the past year to make your judgement on? Really it is a simple question.
Oh and BTW, when T.Walsh get s a go i hope he absolutely rips it apart.
I've never , ever said that T Walsh is an AFL player ... I am not sure if he is or not... or ever will be.
So if he plays well - he wont be proving me right - because I'm not sure if he can cope at AFL level.
But the point is - let's all see (me included) if he has the right stuff... we should at least give the man a chance. He deserves one doesn't he ?
Is that overly generous ?
Considering that Lynch has been given 5 chances this season and seems to struggle for pace (at AFL level) and the fact that our side needs pace - why didn't Walsh get 1 chance.
Why are we all left guessing ?
Why are we even arguing over giving the guy 1 chance !
He's played a few reasonable games at VFL level .. let's now see if he can make the transition - I'm not sure he will, but let's find out.