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SainterK wrote:Well, best way to judge Zacs game, let's look at his opponents last month.
Travis Cloke
Rd 17
19 disp 9 marks 7 scoring shots
Rd 18
21 disp 10 marks 3 scoring shots
Rd 19
17 disp 5 marks 4 scoring shots
Rd 20
18 disp 8 marks 9 scoring shots
Rd 21
10 disp 6 marks 2 scoring shots
*Actually his equal lowest disposal count this year
Why is that the best way to judge his game? We've always been renowned as a team defence.
Petrie did nothing against us and it had bugger all to do with Zac.
You can make stats say whatever you want, the game is played on grass not paper.
When you take the number 1 forward every week you are going to cop a bit of flack from time to time, it's impossible to stop every opponent. Does Zac have some brain fades? Perhaps but I'd prefer to call them split second mistakes. I can't recall a forward taking him to town and I doubt at present we have a better option to take the best forwards in the comp - Just an opinion.
I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
I was listening to Sports National this morning just after the 8am news, when a caller rang in and asked Mick McGuane his opinion on Zac.
Mick said that he didn't rate Zac very highly, and that he has been made look like a reasonable player by the defensive structure around him.
But when the structure falls down and he is left in a one on one contest he is exposed as an ordinary full back.
Mick also went on to state that one of the games great forwards, Wayne Carey, has a very, very low opinion of Dawson's ability!!!
Now I'm sure posters will get on here and say that these twoknow nothing about football, but personally I rate these two as having very good footballing brains and when they talk a lot of people listen.
If Goddard had tackled Selwood and he slipped down in the process of being tackled we would be calling for selwood to be banned for life for staging. As it stands Zac was an "idiot"?
saintbob wrote:I was listening to Sports National this morning just after the 8am news, when a caller rang in and asked Mick McGuane his opinion on Zac.
Mick said that he didn't rate Zac very highly, and that he has been made look like a reasonable player by the defensive structure around him.
But when the structure falls down and he is left in a one on one contest he is exposed as an ordinary full back.
Mick also went on to state that one of the games great forwards, Wayne Carey, has a very, very low opinion of Dawson's ability!!!
Now I'm sure posters will get on here and say that these twoknow nothing about football, but personally I rate these two as having very good footballing brains and when they talk a lot of people listen.
The caller should have asked Mick about the best way to manage gambling debts & seen if the Duck could provide some marital/best mate advice.
You may like to justify your opinion on two people not involved with the club. Ex AFL players can be wrong & have ill informed opinions just like you or I.
Zac is a very good one on one defender when he gets himself in the correct position. His problem is playing too far in front at times & getting caught out by the long bomb to his man. His disposal is ordinary but still better than Max's ever was. I very rarely heard Max being ridiculed on here about his kicking (which was ordinary to say the least).
I think Simpkin will make a very solid full back.
He plays consistently well for Sandy.
Logically he would be the one to replace Dawson.
So the pressure is on Zac.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
FQF wrote:Zac is the least of all our problems at the moment... if you can call him a problem at all.
he's not a problem..no matter what these armchair experts post...one only needs to go back to the coaches votes in last years two grand-finals to realise how much they value zac.....he'd be one of the first picked these days...he's our full back...so get behind him ffs....
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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Bernard Shakey wrote:We'll never win a premiership with Zac in the team.
Geelong won a flag with Hawkins as a KPP. Its a silly comment especially since Zac has been one of our best players in 3 GF's. Surely it is how you perform on the big day and he certainly has no problems. You are the master of the over statement.