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Winning margins

Post: # 1116884Post BigMart »

In the light of all the recent floggings, its...


Interesting to look at the winning margins agains bottom teams (which quite a few of our recent wins have come against) and compare those to what the winning margins of collingwood, geelong, carlton, hawthorn are.....

Those sides are really able to nail weak opposition and make them pay because of superior skills.....we on the other hand comfortably beat weak opponents, but (adelaide aside) rarely have a ten to twenty goal win..

Doesnt necessarily mean that if
Geelong beat port by 100
And
We beat port by 50

That geelong are 50 to the good against us

We have better defensive mechanisms, but deliver less quality ball going fwd......and dont always capitalise on any dominance we may have..

We have the ability to keep sides in the game, regardless of being on top in general play....by not getting more than 3 or 4 goals up too often....if momentum changes, we can be vulnerable to letting margins dwindle...

When
Collingwood, hawthorn, geelong, carlton get on top....they hit the scoreboard hard.....generally we just make it impossible for oppositions to score when we are on top...


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Post: # 1116886Post Old Mate »

Well yeah, the teams you mentioned are better than the Saints this year. That's the reality. We're sitting 6th on the ladder and that's about where we should be.


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Post: # 1116892Post SaintPav »

Old Mate wrote:Well yeah, the teams you mentioned are better than the Saints this year. That's the reality. We're sitting 6th on the ladder and that's about where we should be.
Correct. If someone said 3 months ago that we would win 9 out of the next 11 and we would be sixth with a chance to play the firts final in Melb (maybe even at the Dome), how would you have felt?


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Post: # 1116940Post BigMart »

Yes, and we have lost to the two we are not as good as...

I suppose...

Big test next week


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Post: # 1116979Post plugger66 »

Dont get what this is about otherwise we know the result of every game and the margin.


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Post: # 1117045Post BigMart »

Not surprising....

Just oppose it anyway....

Or would you like me to explain the obvious.....


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Post: # 1117046Post BigMart »

And if you dont have a comment, why post at all.....oh, thats right, i forgot...


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Post: # 1117048Post plugger66 »

BigMart wrote:Not surprising....

Just oppose it anyway....

Or would you like me to explain the obvious.....
I agree. Not surprising. You even look for a negative even when one isnt there. Now we know results because of how 2 sides went against the same opposition. Makes very little or even no sense at all. By the way great one, How will we go this week and what mistakes will the coaching panel make?


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Post: # 1117051Post ralphsmith »

Lost to Carlton and geelong by insignificant margins.

We've been doing this for almost 2 years. Comfortably putting away the s*** teams. Conserving energy when it counts.

Pretty crap thread really. Oh well.


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Post: # 1117065Post BigMart »

Allowing mayne to dictate the match up with goddard...Goddard, would have lost him through the middle or had a different opponent fwd...

It was very clear cut

Centre square set up in second qtr
Kosi not rotating in the third


Anyway

Point of the thread.....other teams have absolutely smashed teams we have not.....And how we can be better by quite a margin, but not always win by a much of a margin

Wonder if you have caught a collingwood, carlton, geelong game lately....

It sort of proves the theory that we are a defensively minded team....not a negative post, more an observation

Freo in melbourne without thier 1st and 3rd best players......not a difficult assignment


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Post: # 1117075Post plugger66 »

BigMart wrote:Allowing mayne to dictate the match up with goddard...Goddard, would have lost him through the middle or had a different opponent fwd...

It was very clear cut

Centre square set up in second qtr
Kosi not rotating in the third


Anyway

Point of the thread.....other teams have absolutely smashed teams we have not.....And how we can be better by quite a margin, but not always win by a much of a margin

Wonder if you have caught a collingwood, carlton, geelong game lately....

It sort of proves the theory that we are a defensively minded team....not a negative post, more an observation

Freo in melbourne without thier 1st and 3rd best players......not a difficult assignment
Why didnt Harvey move Pav or or put Ballantyne on the ball for a while. Must have been out coached by RL. Not a positive post just an observation. It was very clear cut but of course you would know that.


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Post: # 1117189Post Waltzing St Kilda »

Geelong was racking up huge scores in '92, including the all-time record score of 239. Had a massive percentage (145% by season's end). Still got cleaned up in the Grand Final by a highly defensive, superbly drilled Eagles outfit. (The Eagles had finished fourth that year after losing the previous year's GF.)

Lesson to the Saints: high scoring becomes a rhythm and if you disrupt the rhythm, you disorientate the team.


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Post: # 1117711Post BigMart »

Good reply waltzing....very interesting take, use some stats and fact, apply some knowledge....

Plugger take note....

Ballantine has never played on the ball......pav had nine kicks in the second and was the main instigator behind their revival....

Get some sort of idea....


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Post: # 1117717Post doppler effect »

Waltzing St Kilda wrote:Lesson to the Saints: high scoring becomes a rhythm and if you disrupt the rhythm, you disorientate the team.
:D Correct! Saints do this the best.

I mean disorientate teams of course, not the high scoring bit....


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