Colin Sylvia in the market

mohannair · Post: # 1108943Post **mohannair** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 1:14pm

Looks like another Demon is abt. to move out. I think he will be a good fit for our club.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/m ... 6099470801

jonesy · Post: # 1108946Post **jonesy** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 1:16pm

In a heartbeat,but can't see how,or it happening

Dr Spaceman · Fri 22 Jul 2011 1:21pm

jonesy wrote:In a heartbeat,but can't see how,or it happening

He'll only be moving for big bucks.

How much would you want to pay him?

plugger66 · Post: # 1108949Post **plugger66** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 1:22pm

Dr Spaceman wrote:
jonesy wrote:In a heartbeat,but can't see how,or it happening
He'll only be moving for big bucks.

How much would you want to pay him?

We would want to pay him a lot however we dont have a lot to pay him.

Beekay · Post: # 1108950Post **Beekay** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 1:28pm

jonesy wrote:In a heartbeat,but can't see how,or it happening

If he's out of contract...

If he wants to stay in Melbourne...

If he wants to join a "challenger"...

If we have the dosh...

IMO, we are two skillful midfielders short of taking Collingwood to the sword. (development of a second key forward wouldn't hurt either)

He is 25..... I'd pee my pants if we attained him

St Loxton · Post: # 1108955Post **St Loxton** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 1:37pm

He's had a cracking year, i guess he new he was on his last year on a contract, and elevated his stock just in time to demand a nice wage increase next year.
Would take hime for sure, as p66 mentioned we dont have the $$$$.

MCG-Unit · Post: # 1108960Post **MCG-Unit** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 1:47pm

Would consider Sylvia for sure - only thing is what would Melb take in a trade, and how much would he want - Saints would be right on the edge in the salary cap.

dcstkfc · Post: # 1108962Post **dcstkfc** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 1:47pm

He's obviously very capable, although an outside midfielder is not right at the top of our wishlist at the moment. Only for a very good price.

MCG-Unit · Post: # 1108963Post **MCG-Unit** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 1:53pm

dcstkfc wrote:He's obviously very capable, although an outside midfielder is not right at the top of our wishlist at the moment. Only for a very good price.

Outside - shivers I reckon he is very hard at the ball and the man, that's why I would be interested.

I thought the only reason Sylvia sometimes plays HF and not mid is due to Melb having Jones, Scully, Moloney and Trengove rotate thru the center.

Junction Oval · Fri 22 Jul 2011 2:16pm

Put him on our "wish list" and see what eventuates.

As others have said, we would take him in a heartbeat!

Things don't seem to be going well, internally at Melbourne. The Saints have been there and done that! No more of that for us, thanks!

Mr Magic · Post: # 1108975Post **Mr Magic** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 3:01pm

Greg Denham said on KB's program this morning that Sylvia would be looking for 450k per season and a 2-3 year contract.

We may have room in our salary cap for that, but is he worth it?

gosaints · Post: # 1108976Post **gosaints** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 3:09pm

Just starting to get his body right is Col... has had massive problems with OP and shoulders. Basically had his 1st injury free preseason prior to this year and is reaping the rewards. Will only get better and would be a very nice addition to our team.

Dr Spaceman · Fri 22 Jul 2011 3:09pm

Mr Magic wrote:Greg Denham said on KB's program this morning that Sylvia would be looking for 450k per season and a 2-3 year contract.

We may have room in our salary cap for that, but is he worth it?

That is the big question Mr M

Con Gorozidis · Fri 22 Jul 2011 3:27pm

jonesy wrote:In a heartbeat,but can't see how,or it happening

id take him in a heartbeat. lot of "if's". But hell yeah. hed be awesome in our mid. especially with lenny at the end.

Sobraz · Post: # 1108981Post **Sobraz** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 3:49pm

Gun, and we should seriously be a big player if he honestly wants a change of environment...

He is one of the few blokes out there I'd be interested in chasing... Im over all this constant recycling we're doing, but he is an exception...

Very good player, and brings alot to the table that we need... Strength, grunt, good skills, good overhead, loves a goal and has bag potential up his sleeve...

Hopefully we can swing some deal similiar to what got Burgoyne to the Hawks from Port, now that Pelchin is heading us up... i.e. Get a gun for not much...

Richter · Post: # 1108983Post **Richter** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 3:57pm

It is common knowledge in the football industry that contractual talks between the two parties broke down last month, with the Demons and Sylvia poles apart in a satisfactory settlement on a new deal.

It is understood Sylvia is looking for a two-to-three year contract extension, valued at up to $450,000 a year including incentives.

Wow, I'd have thought that $450k a year for Syliva would be a steal for Melbourne.

If we were to get him, then you'd need to be looking to offload someone to free up the cash....

As an aside, he'd be eligible for limited free agency at the end of 2013 season.

ThePunter · Post: # 1108984Post **ThePunter** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 3:59pm

Remember that "recycling" isn't targeting and recruiting a player through the draft. Otherwise, Hamill and Gehrig would qualify as "recycled players".

Dean Polo and Ryan Gamble are recycled players. Farren Ray is not.

Mr Magic · Post: # 1108985Post **Mr Magic** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 4:03pm

Richter wrote:
It is common knowledge in the football industry that contractual talks between the two parties broke down last month, with the Demons and Sylvia poles apart in a satisfactory settlement on a new deal.

It is understood Sylvia is looking for a two-to-three year contract extension, valued at up to $450,000 a year including incentives.
Wow, I'd have thought that $450k a year for Syliva would be a steal for Melbourne.

If we were to get him, then you'd need to be looking to offload someone to free up the cash....As an aside, he'd be eligible for limited free agency at the end of 2013 season.

I would have thought that next season we already have Lovett's salary up our sleeve, as well as the mooted retirements of Gardiner, Blake and Baker. ALso some others are eligible for teh 'veterans list', again providing salary cap room.
Yes some of that might well be going towards increased payments to others, but I reckon they could find 450k if they really wanted to, without too much angst.

Solar · Post: # 1108988Post **Solar** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 4:20pm

Mr Magic wrote:
Richter wrote:
It is common knowledge in the football industry that contractual talks between the two parties broke down last month, with the Demons and Sylvia poles apart in a satisfactory settlement on a new deal.

It is understood Sylvia is looking for a two-to-three year contract extension, valued at up to $450,000 a year including incentives.
Wow, I'd have thought that $450k a year for Syliva would be a steal for Melbourne.

If we were to get him, then you'd need to be looking to offload someone to free up the cash....As an aside, he'd be eligible for limited free agency at the end of 2013 season.
I would have thought that next season we already have Lovett's salary up our sleeve, as well as the mooted retirements of Gardiner, Blake and Baker. ALso some others are eligible for teh 'veterans list', again providing salary cap room.
Yes some of that might well be going towards increased payments to others, but I reckon they could find 450k if they really wanted to, without too much angst.

This

If we could snare a cheap key forward then this would be a great get. Perfect fit for us, plays as a half forward midfielder. Good over head, would allow us to increase thespread running. Maybe the scully issue might push out some established players. Also a chance for colin to come and play in a flag challenger next year.

Richter · Post: # 1108989Post **Richter** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 4:25pm

Even if we could find the $ - which I doubt btw, though if we picked him up then I'd see us delisting Gamble, then the question remains as to what would we have to give up. I'd say at least our first rounder, perhaps more... hence giving up a player may be necessary to gain the requisite pick/trade.... the whole of the draft/trade system is that you don't get something for nothing....

Eastern · Post: # 1108991Post **Eastern** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 4:27pm

Too expensive on a number of fronts. Move On !!

saints66 · Post: # 1108992Post **saints66** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 4:40pm

Richter wrote:Even if we could find the $ - which I doubt btw, though if we picked him up then I'd see us delisting Gamble, then the question remains as to what would we have to give up. I'd say at least our first rounder, perhaps more... hence giving up a player may be necessary to gain the requisite pick/trade.... the whole of the draft/trade system is that you don't get something for nothing....

Collingwood did!

Armoooo · Post: # 1108995Post **Armoooo** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 5:03pm

Make it happen!!

I was just saying to my mate the other day I would kill to have Sylvia at the club.

We should easily be able to fit him into the cap IMO.

I would hope that we will very heavily pursue one of Colin Sylvia, Patrick Dangerfield or Mitch Clark, add any of those three and our lineup has a completely different look to it.

plugger66 · Post: # 1108996Post **plugger66** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 5:06pm

Armoooo wrote:Make it happen!!

I was just saying to my mate the other day I would kill to have Sylvia at the club.

We should easily be able to fit him into the cap IMO.

I would hope that we will very heavily pursue one of Colin Sylvia, Patrick Dangerfield or Mitch Clark, add any of those three and our lineup has a completely different look to it.

Love to know how we could fit a 450k player under our salary cap. Would need to trade or not resign a fairly highly paid player.

Ralphy · Post: # 1108998Post **Ralphy** » Fri 22 Jul 2011 5:12pm

plugger66 wrote:
Armoooo wrote:Make it happen!!

I was just saying to my mate the other day I would kill to have Sylvia at the club.

We should easily be able to fit him into the cap IMO.

I would hope that we will very heavily pursue one of Colin Sylvia, Patrick Dangerfield or Mitch Clark, add any of those three and our lineup has a completely different look to it.
Love to know how we could fit a 450k player under our salary cap. Would need to trade or not resign a fairly highly paid player.

Lovetts money
Whatever Baker s on.
same as blake
same as gardiner
also riewoldt will be vet listed etc
so easliy done.