17 goals. Not good enough!

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17 goals. Not good enough!

Post: # 1103432Post saintspremiers »

Port are conplete rubbish.

Whilst Ross would be happy with the margin we dished out to port, I reckon he'd be thinking a par return would've been 20 goals.

Consider also we only had 24 scoring shots.

Sorry if this seems harsh, but the bar for our team has been raised, and RL shouldn't accept an 8/10 job on any team.

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Post: # 1103440Post kosifantutti23 »

20 goals? Is that from a random number generator.

Only one team (North) has scored more than 17 goals against Port in their last five games.

Carlton and West Coast at Subiaco both scored less goals.

We got four points from the game which I believe is the maximum number you can get.


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Re: 17 goals. Not good enough!

Post: # 1103441Post bigcarl »

It was a good win given the conditions, which weren't conducive to high scoring. It was very windy.


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Post: # 1103443Post BigMart »

Given the conditions....17 goals is a vg score

Teams aim for 16.....as a guide

But it depends on a lot of variables....mostly opposition set up and tactics...condition....accuracy....

A balance between defense and offense is tough

If we kicked 22 and they kicked 15, would that be better???

When you look at fwds....and their performance

Dont look at goals kicked..........look at f50 entries as compared to scores, and look at quality of entries.....and look at f50 tackles, and wins from stoppges inside f50....contested marks

With mids.....
Tackles between the arcs, clearances, handball recieves, disposal efficiency into f50....run and spread....fwd press....defensive running

Defenders
Spoils, 3rd man up, run tobrecieve
But mainly rebounds vs opposition scores


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Post: # 1103465Post Moccha »

16.2 is good


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Post: # 1103467Post Johnny Member »

I think that people forget, that even when we were unbeatable in 2009, we only averaged 14 goals per week.


So if we're looking to get 'back to our best', then really, expecting 20 goals each week is unrealistic.

If we're thinking that our 2009 footy might have been good back then, but it's just not going to cut it in 2011 - then sure, we have every right to worried about only kicking 17.


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Post: # 1103468Post gringo »

They should aim for 120 goals per week then they would be ace.


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Post: # 1103471Post dragit »

Awesome thread…
17 goals interstate,
6 goal breeze blowing straight across the ground…
Doubled their score, and our percentage went up 5-6 %.
not good enough.

Try harder next time you duds,

Are you one of those supporters that bags our players constantly at the games?


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Post: # 1103482Post Richter »

Got to be happy with a nearly 10 goal win away from Melbourne.

However, for the sake of the season, it would have been highly advantageous to have kicked on in that final quarter and really run away with the game.

We're only just behind Melbourne on %, but miles behind Sydney and Essendon. That may matter come the end of the season.


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Post: # 1103491Post saintspremiers »

I am not bagging them.

I gave them 8/10 FFS!!!

Just looking at who we played.

Against prob. 14 other sides 16 or 17 goals would be a great effort.

Horses for courses.


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Post: # 1103512Post Moccha »

saintspremiers wrote:I am not bagging them.

I gave them 8/10 FFS!!!

Just looking at who we played.

Against prob. 14 other sides 16 or 17 goals would be a great effort.

Horses for courses.
How do you know what Ross Lyon thinks. Clearly you are showing your disappointment. Ask yourself when was the last time St.Kilda kicked 17 goals in a game let alone in an interstate game.

I'll take any win


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Post: # 1103536Post SainterK »

Kicked 17, while keeping their opponent to 4 for most of the game, and also expending energy on the odd melee.


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Post: # 1103563Post prwilkinson »

Keep in mind the weather was awful in Adelaide on Sunday... Rain and a gail wind... I thought 17 goals was a reasonable score.


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Post: # 1103571Post matrix »

it rained for about 2 mins

and the wind wasnt even bad sitting in the cheersquad bay, although they did keep saying it was a six goal advantage


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Post: # 1103573Post Rosco »

Moccha wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:I am not bagging them.

I gave them 8/10 FFS!!!

Just looking at who we played.

Against prob. 14 other sides 16 or 17 goals would be a great effort.

Horses for courses.
How do you know what Ross Lyon thinks. Clearly you are showing your disappointment. Ask yourself when was the last time St.Kilda kicked 17 goals in a game let alone in an interstate game.

I'll take any win
last time we kicked 17 goals was in round 21 last year against richmond (17.14 to 14.10), then north the week before (17.13 to 9.9), and port the week before that (23.13 to 8.9 at docklands). the last time we did it interstate was against freo in round 20 2008 (17.10 to 9.15).


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EASY PORT GOALS

Post: # 1103579Post oh when »

I went to the game - it's not the 17 goals that was an issue - it was some of the sloppy play that gave PA easy goals.


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Post: # 1103580Post joffaboy »

Christ, some people are never happy :roll:

And why 20 goals? because thats a nice round number?

17.5 in greasy blustery conditions away from home and we get squeling.

Why not just enjoy the good win?


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Post: # 1103621Post Hurricane »

joffaboy wrote:Christ, some people are never happy :roll:

And why 20 goals? because thats a nice round number?

17.5 in greasy blustery conditions away from home and we get squeling.

Why not just enjoy the good win?
+1

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Post: # 1103624Post Dr Spaceman »

Hurricane wrote:
joffaboy wrote:Christ, some people are never happy :roll:

And why 20 goals? because thats a nice round number?

17.5 in greasy blustery conditions away from home and we get squeling.

Why not just enjoy the good win?
+1

Couldnt agree more. Just button up and enjoy FFS

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Post: # 1103625Post Rosco »

17 goals is fine, best return this year. we will need at least 14-15 goals this week against west coast under the dome given their forward line.


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Post: # 1103643Post Goose is king »

Whilst I was critical with the last 10-15 minutes of the North game for negative tactics I was very happy with how we scored on the weekend. 4 goals (first quarter), 5 goals (second quarter), 3 goals (etc) and 5 goals (etc) was good work in those conditions.


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Post: # 1103652Post AnythingsPossibleSaints »

I'm just glad that they played the game out and didn't try to protect the lead for the last 45 minutes, as they often have in the last couple of seasons.


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Post: # 1103663Post MCG-Unit »

17 goals is a good score in those conditions - 56 inside 50's.


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Post: # 1103742Post Dan Warna »

It would seem that Ross put the cue away in the last part of the 4th quarter and I agree.

while a 100 point thumping would have been great, the last thing you want is for roo to get a busted knee in what was a vitriolic game.

except for about 10 mins at the end of the first quarter we controlled the game, the tempo and our skills were better.

I know its port, but to win on our terms is great.


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Post: # 1103747Post bobmurray »

It's a huge score considering the game plan...Did they break team rules to kick that many goals.....They'll probably get flogged on the track this week as punishment....


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