Brett Peake

[hungry for a premiership]

Yes, I actually always liked Peake from the beginning, for the run he provided. Of course, I wish that Lovett hadn't turned out to be a rapist dog and he could be playing that role, but them's the breaks.

[faircatfan]

So his left side has improved has it?. Just look at the standard of the game, its generally terrible. It makes complete sense if you play to the same standard and the general standard of the game falls away "faster".
I know he played ok against us in the past 2 matches in particular. If you really think Peake will take you forward, then i disagree with that entirely.

He's better that that little receiver called Cameron Cokes.

Disagree, but interesting comparison

He reminds me of Carlton. He's a soft track bully and goes missing in the big games or when it counts. Can't remember him doing well in a big game or final. Could be wrong.

I think when we rolled the pies in a prelim he kicked the first 3 goals from memory. I do agree though that "generally" he is a bit of a down hill skier

[SaintPav]

So his left side has improved has it?. Just look at the standard of the game, its generally terrible. It makes complete sense if you play to the same standard and the general standard of the game falls away "faster".
I know he played ok against us in the past 2 matches in particular. If you really think Peake will take you forward, then i disagree with that entirely.

He's better that that little receiver called Cameron Cokes.

Disagree, but interesting comparison

He reminds me of Carlton. He's a soft track bully and goes missing in the big games or when it counts. Can't remember him doing well in a big game or final. Could be wrong.

I think when we rolled the pies in a prelim he kicked the first 3 goals from memory. I do agree though that "generally" he is a bit of a down hill skier

Now I've said that, he'll probably kick 6 in the GF now.

[saintsRrising]

I do agree though that "generally" he is a bit of a down hill skier

Problem with that theory is this season the Saints have been crap, but Peake has been excelling.

[Dr Spaceman]

I do agree though that "generally" he is a bit of a down hill skier

Problem with that theory is this season the Saints have been crap, but Peake has been excelling.

I think you'll find faircatfan was actually referring to Stokes of Geelong.

[Winmar]

It's great to see Peake getting a bit of recognition for his improvement. He wasn't born with the skills of a Dal Santo, but he's working hard to get the most out of what he's got.

[Moods]

It's great to see Peake getting a bit of recognition for his improvement. He wasn't born with the skills of a Dal Santo, but he's working hard to get the most out of what he's got.

I agree with this. He's not my favourite player but I have been very impressed with how he's gone these past 6 weeks. How about we ALL give our blokes some credits when they hit some form, rather than wait for them to stuff up?

[Dr Spaceman]

It's great to see Peake getting a bit of recognition for his improvement. He wasn't born with the skills of a Dal Santo, but he's working hard to get the most out of what he's got.

I agree with this. He's not my favourite player but I have been very impressed with how he's gone these past 6 weeks. How about we ALL give our blokes some credits when they hit some form, rather than wait for them to stuff up?

It's a radical plan Moods but I'm all for it

[Dr Spaceman]

Link to a little story in today's online HS:

“It’s a good story – just goes to show you how mental the game is,â€

[Con Gorozidis]

So his left side has improved has it?. Just look at the standard of the game, its generally terrible. It makes complete sense if you play to the same standard and the general standard of the game falls away "faster".
I know he played ok against us in the past 2 matches in particular. If you really think Peake will take you forward, then i disagree with that entirely.

I dont think pressure is down. Anyway main issue if you watched him play before was his poor disposal when under absolutely zero pressure - now he disposes well under perssure. So how can you see that aspect is not an miprovement in hiw own game? As I said he used to kick it in the air under zero pressure. How can that based on standards dropping?

[Con Gorozidis]

So his left side has improved has it?. Just look at the standard of the game, its generally terrible. It makes complete sense if you play to the same standard and the general standard of the game falls away "faster".
I know he played ok against us in the past 2 matches in particular. If you really think Peake will take you forward, then i disagree with that entirely.

I dont think pressure is down. Anyway main issue if you watched him play before was his poor disposal when under absolutely zero pressure - now he disposes well under perssure. So how can you see that aspect is not an improvement in his own game? As I said he used to kick it in the air under zero pressure. How can that be based on standards dropping?

[Con Gorozidis]

So his left side has improved has it?. Just look at the standard of the game, its generally terrible. It makes complete sense if you play to the same standard and the general standard of the game falls away "faster".
I know he played ok against us in the past 2 matches in particular. If you really think Peake will take you forward, then i disagree with that entirely.

He's better that that little receiver called Cameron Cokes.

Disagree, but interesting comparison

He reminds me of Carlton. He's a soft track bully and goes missing in the big games or when it counts. Can't remember him doing well in a big game or final. Could be wrong.

You mustnt watch footy at all. Cos he was in our best v Pies and Cats in the last month. He was our only good player against the tide at some stages in both those games.

[Con Gorozidis]

I do agree though that "generally" he is a bit of a down hill skier

Problem with that theory is this season the Saints have been crap, but Peake has been excelling.

exactly. saints have been hopeless. So hardly down hill skiing this year.

[Dr Spaceman]

I do agree though that "generally" he is a bit of a down hill skier

Problem with that theory is this season the Saints have been crap, but Peake has been excelling.

exactly. saints have been hopeless. So hardly down hill skiing this year.

Con, I think fcf’s initial post was way off the mark, but to be fair I think this later comment of his has been taken out of context. As I said earlier:

I do agree though that "generally" he is a bit of a down hill skier

Problem with that theory is this season the Saints have been crap, but Peake has been excelling.

I think you'll find faircatfan was actually referring to Stokes of Geelong.

[bergholt]

If you really think Peake will take you forward, then i disagree with that entirely.

i'd place peake somewhere between david spriggs and david wojcinski on a continuum of similar players. he's better than spriggs, probably not quite as good as wojo. but it's a pretty close thing, and this season he's getting it more than wojo, kicking more goals, tackling more and has a similar number of inside 50s.

it's fair to say they're comparable players. neither are ever going to get more than a trickle of b&f or brownlow votes, and they'll fade in and out of games, but they're still useful to have around.

If you really think Peake will take you forward, then i disagree with that entirely.

so if this holds true for peake then the same is true of wojcinski. why then has he played 12 games this year? probably because playing a team full of kids isn't going to win you games; cf gold coast. each team needs a blend of youth and experience.

maybe that's the role peake is playing for the saints. if he's not exactly "taking us forward" (whatever that actually means), he is playing a useful role. and at this point it's not ridiculous to suggest that he could play in our next finals campaign, as he probably has a good four years left in him.

so why not play him, if he's going well?

[Dr Spaceman]

If you really think Peake will take you forward, then i disagree with that entirely.

i'd place peake somewhere between david spriggs and david wojcinski on a continuum of similar players. he's better than spriggs, probably not quite as good as wojo. but it's a pretty close thing, and this season he's getting it more than wojo, kicking more goals, tackling more and has a similar number of inside 50s.

it's fair to say they're comparable players. neither are ever going to get more than a trickle of b&f or brownlow votes, and they'll fade in and out of games, but they're still useful to have around.

If you really think Peake will take you forward, then i disagree with that entirely.

so if this holds true for peake then the same is true of wojcinski. why then has he played 12 games this year? probably because playing a team full of kids isn't going to win you games; cf gold coast. each team needs a blend of youth and experience.

maybe that's the role peake is playing for the saints. if he's not exactly "taking us forward" (whatever that actually means), he is playing a useful role. and at this point it's not ridiculous to suggest that he could play in our next finals campaign, as he probably has a good four years left in him.

so why not play him, if he's going well?

Yep, as Ross said:

“But we just said, ‘look, we don’t sentence anyone to death. If you buy in and do the work and compete, we’ll give you an opportunity.

“He went back to Sandringham and played well and since his return he’s played some really hungry football and he’s been a bit of a catalyst really.â€

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[PJ]

Glad to see we're consistent around here - when a players going bad, bag him....when a players going well, bag him anyway he may lose form.

Peake has been one of the most exciting to watch the last several weeks so I'm going to enjoy his form and being back in the winners circle. Baggers can go about your negative, uninspired way. Life's too short to read your crap.

[wasaintsfan]

peake has always had the ability just not the confidence.. and his 'role' didnt help..

ive always been pro peake... i for one was happy when we picked him up

and now ross has seemed to find his perfect role and we are now seeing the plus side of it all


good work peake keep it up...

[QuestionOfAccuracy]

What has been most impressive has been his ball use. Everyone's always acknowledged his pace, but now he's using it to good effect and being damaging with his disposals.

[groupie1]

Players like peake do not improve. The opposition deteriorates faster than players like Peake do, hence he "looks better". IMHO

What an incredibly stupid statement.

So players dont work on their skills to improve, they all just play from natural talent

Actually your statement, re-read isn't just stupid it is ludicrious.

It assumes "the opposition" is some sort of homogenious mass that doesn't change from week to week, or deterioates during a game in linear fashion.

My god, the intellect of some posters defies belief. Its breadth of thoughlessness knows very little bounds.

What the f*** does this mean?

[InkerSaint]

Glad to see we're consistent around here - when a players going bad, bag him....when a players going well, bag him anyway he may lose form.

I won't stand for that... putting my hand up as a Peake fan.

I couldn't comprehend why we'd traded for him in 09 but in hindsight he was insurance, we had to make a claim and AFAIAC the cheque is good.

He had a poor start to the year and that is on record. To his great credit he hit his straps while others were still in the doldrums.

I especially liked this bit at the end of The Age's article:

Buhagiar says his daughter, Carly, and her husband (who turned 28 yesterday) are very happy in Melbourne, and that Peake was enjoying everything about St Kilda and desperately wanted to stay a Saint.

That warmed the cockles of my red, white and black heart.

Yes, and happy birthday Peakey.

[saintbrat]

the age article
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 1h0rw.html

several intersting comments

[gringo]

I have a mate from WA who is a freo fan and he was pissed Peake went as he had one great year at Freo and went missing the next, but said he had been waiting for Peake to be an A grade player which he still expected. He was compared to kosi in that over a few weeks he looked like the next Chris Judd and grabbed a heap of triple brownlow votes. I hope his time is now.

[Dr Spaceman]

the age article
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 1h0rw.html

several intersting comments

Another great read in a year that's been largely devoid of them