Robert Harvey

RW&B · Post: # 1097658Post **RW&B** » Fri 01 Jul 2011 9:19pm

"Certainly the best player of the '90s.. all we (North Melbourne) worried about with St Kilda was Robert Harvey. He was just brilliant" - Wayne Carey

This was in todays Herald Sun. Just wanted to posted it here because I hate it when Harves is forgotten in the Buckley/Hird/Voss chat. For those who haven't read it, Carey rated Harves the 3rd best player of the AFL era behing Plugger and Dunstall.

hungry for a premiership · Fri 01 Jul 2011 9:27pm

That's brilliant.

Have you got a link to the article?

matrix · Post: # 1097666Post **matrix** » Fri 01 Jul 2011 9:45pm

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/c ... 6085117462

stkildathunda · Fri 01 Jul 2011 9:45pm

hungry for a premiership wrote:That's brilliant.

Have you got a link to the article?

Video here: http://video.heraldsun.com.au/2014967525/Careys-Top-5

Article: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/c ... 6085117462

saintbrat · Post: # 1097668Post **saintbrat** » Fri 01 Jul 2011 9:47pm

nothing less than what buckley said on the night of his induction into hall of fame when asked to rate Hird, Voss and Riccuito- said Harvey.

bigcarl · Post: # 1097674Post **bigcarl** » Fri 01 Jul 2011 9:55pm

He rated Dunstall above Lockett.

I reckon Lockett was better than both Dunstall and Carey and I'm sure a few on here will agree.

stkildathunda · Fri 01 Jul 2011 9:57pm

Few others had him in top 5 aswell.. Crawf has him at #2

PAUL ROOS (Fitz/Syd 1982-98)
1. Tony Lockett (StK/Syd)
2. Wayne Carey (NM/Adel)
3. Gary Ablett snr (Geel/Haw)
4. Robert Harvey (StK)
5. Chris Judd (WC/Carl)

PETER MATERA (WC 1990-2002)
1. Wayne Carey (NM/Adel)
2. James Hird (Ess)
3. Tony Lockett (StK/Syd)
4. Paul Kelly (Syd)
5. Robert Harvey (StK).

DARREN JARMAN (Haw/Adel 1991-2001)
1: Gary Ablett Snr (Geel/Haw)
2: Jason Dunstall (Haw)
3: Tony Lockett (StK/Syd)
4: Wayne Carey (NM/Adel)
5: Robert Harvey (StK)

SHANE CRAWFORD (Haw 1993-2008)
1. Wayne Carey (NM/Adel)
2. Robert Harvey (StK)
3. Jason Dunstall (Haw)
4. Gary Ablett Sr (Geel/Haw)
5. Nathan Buckley (Coll/Bris)

ralphsmith · Fri 01 Jul 2011 10:11pm

Harvey is the best i have ever seen.

faircatfan · Fri 01 Jul 2011 10:14pm

I'd have Harvey before Hird, then again i'd have Ablett before Carey.

Junction Oval · Fri 01 Jul 2011 10:17pm

Saw so much of Harves, that it was almost expected that he would be brilliant every week.

Getting towards the end of his brilliant career, his game against Adelaide in Adelaide a few years ago in a Qualifying final (I think), was just outstanding. He dragged the Saints through by sheer willpower. Simply amazing.

meher baba · Fri 01 Jul 2011 10:25pm

Interestingly, the ex-players don't seem to rate Hird and Voss particularly highly. As a spectator, I'd tend to agree about Voss, but who I'd rate behind Harvey and probably no more highly than Hayes and plenty of others. But I was always greatly impressed by Hird.

I have never particularly rated Buckley.

Lockett, Carey and Gablett snr were all awesome IMO: forwards tend to be underrated relative to mids. But Dunstall, though good, was flattered by the tremendous quality of the team he played in front of.

All IMO, of course.

Junction Oval · Fri 01 Jul 2011 10:32pm

Voss and Buckley never impressed me with their overall impact on games, but I am not sure what the statistics show.

On the other hand, Hird could always do something spectacular when needed and changed games through his own efforts.

gringo · Post: # 1097696Post **gringo** » Fri 01 Jul 2011 10:35pm

I thought desperation was kicking in and we were calling for Harves to put on the jumper again.

Junction Oval · Fri 01 Jul 2011 10:43pm

Unfortunately, too late to pull on the jumper again, but a few excerpts from Harves highlights reel shown to the team and young guys in particular, may just spark some additional effort.

faircatfan · Fri 01 Jul 2011 10:52pm

Watched a lot of footy and dont think i have seen any player fiegn ( shimmy) like Harvey could.

bergsone · Post: # 1097709Post **bergsone** » Fri 01 Jul 2011 11:11pm

gringo wrote:I thought desperation was kicking in and we were calling for Harves to put on the jumper again.

Can we???

desertsaint · Fri 01 Jul 2011 11:17pm

i don't know the exact stats but i would guess average disposals per game are well up over the last few years - yet we rave about 30 possession games.
harvs would regularly get high 30s and 40s at his peak.
wish he'd gone around one last time playing 50% game time - who knows what may have happened?
the best of his type i've seen.

saintspremiers · Sat 02 Jul 2011 12:08am

As great as Harvs was, for pure excitement he was no match for plugger.

RW&B · Post: # 1097752Post **RW&B** » Sat 02 Jul 2011 12:55am

faircatfan wrote:Watched a lot of footy and dont think i have seen any player fiegn ( shimmy) like Harvey could.

??

faircatfan · Sat 02 Jul 2011 12:59am

RW&B wrote:
faircatfan wrote:Watched a lot of footy and dont think i have seen any player fiegn ( shimmy) like Harvey could.
??

...Nice agreed but not as clever and classy as what Harvey did, to upto 3 opponents in a space of about 5 metres

RW&B · Post: # 1097756Post **RW&B** » Sat 02 Jul 2011 1:18am

faircatfan wrote:
RW&B wrote:
faircatfan wrote:Watched a lot of footy and dont think i have seen any player fiegn ( shimmy) like Harvey could.
??
...Nice agreed but not as clever and classy as what Harvey did, to upto 3 opponents in a space of about 5 metres

I know what you mean. I was just being cheeky and I miss Lenny Hayes!

mcadam05 · Post: # 1097795Post **mcadam05** » Sat 02 Jul 2011 10:21am

but harvey can do this

stkildathunda · Sat 02 Jul 2011 10:30am

Here is one the best tribute videos you'll find on the great man:

and tribute to the great man at the 2008 AFL Brownlow:

AnythingsPossibleSaints · Sat 02 Jul 2011 12:27pm

bigcarl wrote:He rated Dunstall above Lockett.

I reckon Lockett was better than both Dunstall and Carey and I'm sure a few on here will agree.

Certainly agree that Lockett was better than Dunstall. Imagine if Dunstall had played for St Kilda and Lockett for Hawthorn, instead of the other way around. I imagine Dunstall would have kicked a lot less goals than Plugger did and that Plugger would have kicked a lot more for Hawthorn than Dunstall did.
Dunstall got A-grade, frequent delivery down his throat for most of his career, while Lockett was kicking bags of goals in a relatively ordinary team, playing in a bog at Moorabbin.
I played at FF and I can very safely tell you I'd much rather have played FF for Hawthorn in that time than St Kilda in that time!

Con Gorozidis · Sat 02 Jul 2011 12:47pm

bigcarl wrote:He rated Dunstall above Lockett.

I reckon Lockett was better than both Dunstall and Carey and I'm sure a few on here will agree.

Not even comparable. Dunstall was a great player no question. But Lockett was from a different planet. Maybe Carey didnt see many games when he was actually playing. Seriously Plugger was just incredible. We had shocking disposal in the early 90s. Plugger would take on 3 blokes and either mark it or just turn around and kick it himself. He was just that good.