Kosi 2 weeks

SaintWal · Post: # 1093217Post **SaintWal** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 8:59pm

I am sorry but Kosi was standing still with Duncan coming back in to him. Duncan was turning and spinning dictating the direction of the Kosi tackle. Kosi expected a full frontal tackle bringing Duncan down on on top of him. It was Duncan's evasion in the tackle that caused the tackle to be out of Kosi's control.

Case closed

desertsaint · Mon 20 Jun 2011 9:00pm

afl is not the aussie rules we grew up with and know and love.
sanitised to the point i barely care about the game.
just sad.
soccer is the most popular game in the world, and no doubt the afl are trimming the difference in relation to hardness in some form of misplaced fear.
i miss aussie rules. the afl is trusting our loyalty to our clubs, and trying to attract new support. ef them.
enjoy where the game is headed plugger - gaelic football with a sherrin.

python · Post: # 1093227Post **python** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 9:16pm

I've heard doctors state that there is no varying degree of concussion that can be seen immediately after impact. You are either concussed or not.

I've also heard them state that no matter what, if a player is concussed they will not be allowed to continue, reasoning being that their health takes priority.

So what sort of medical report made the difference? If he was concussed, why was he on the field later on, kicking goals? Or were Geelong ignoring that rule?

bigred · Post: # 1093228Post **bigred** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 9:17pm

The game is losing me.

Heard Greg Baum on SEN this morning waxing lyrical about how tackles like this need to be taken from the game.

Give me a break. What a load of twaddle.

Eastern · Post: # 1093233Post **Eastern** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 9:27pm

Before we all go off wanting to challenge the Kosi suspension we need to have a counter arguement to what the MRP found. If we try and fail Kosi gets 3 instead of 2 and the club is (my estimate) $5-7K out of pocket with the QC and the AFL bond. I say cop the 2 weeks and put the $5-7K into a development program for the players !!

bigred · Post: # 1093235Post **bigred** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 9:29pm

I wouldn't bother challenging it.

No point.

SaintWal · Post: # 1093238Post **SaintWal** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 9:36pm

Eastern wrote:Before we all go off wanting to challenge the Kosi suspension we need to have a counter arguement to what the MRP found. If we try and fail Kosi gets 3 instead of 2 and the club is (my estimate) $5-7K out of pocket with the QC and the AFL bond. I say cop the 2 weeks and put the $5-7K into a development program for the players !!

Look at the tackle and Duncans movements. I was serious

Dr Spaceman · Mon 20 Jun 2011 9:37pm

Corey's was far worse than Kosi's. Perhaps there should be less emphasis on the injury sustained and more on the potential for injury.

After all, Attempted Murder is a far more serious crime than Assault, even though the latter may on occasions leave the victim worse off.

A player, or a crim, should not benefit simply from the good fortune that their actions failed to achieve maximum damage.Â

Bernard Shakey · Mon 20 Jun 2011 9:39pm

I hope we challenge.

SaintWal · Post: # 1093243Post **SaintWal** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 9:42pm

Dr Spaceman wrote:Corey's was far worse than Kosi's. Perhaps there should be less emphasis on the injury sustained and more on the potential for injury.

After all, Attempted Murder is a far more serious crime than Assault, even though the latter may on occasions leave the victim worse off.

A player, or a crim, should not benefit simply from the good fortune that their actions failed to achieve maximum damage.Â

Totally agree, Corey lifted, yes lifted ala spear tackle, and dictated where Steven was going to fall.

maverick · Post: # 1093245Post **maverick** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 9:43pm

Bernard Shakey wrote:I hope we challenge.

You're nasty

SainterK · Post: # 1093246Post **SainterK** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 9:43pm

Bernard Shakey wrote:I hope we challenge.

I was hoping that you would say that

Moods · Post: # 1093251Post **Moods** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 9:49pm

python wrote:I've heard doctors state that there is no varying degree of concussion that can be seen immediately after impact. You are either concussed or not.

I've also heard them state that no matter what, if a player is concussed they will not be allowed to continue, reasoning being that their health takes priority.

So what sort of medical report made the difference? If he was concussed, why was he on the field later on, kicking goals? Or were Geelong ignoring that rule?

This is spot on. was listening to mmm on the way home and the bloke in the rooms (i think Michael Roberts) was saying that Duncan was concussed, however the cats decided to ignore the rules b/c of player rotations.

How they can blatantly do that without any type of sanction is bewildering to say the least. If this is the precedent, then players being banned from playing on concussed was just a fad the AFL introduced for a few weeks to make all the right sounds for the AMA. Either that or he wasn't concussed and Kosi was dudded. Which was it?

Solar · Post: # 1093261Post **Solar** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 10:04pm

Moods wrote:
python wrote:I've heard doctors state that there is no varying degree of concussion that can be seen immediately after impact. You are either concussed or not.

I've also heard them state that no matter what, if a player is concussed they will not be allowed to continue, reasoning being that their health takes priority.

So what sort of medical report made the difference? If he was concussed, why was he on the field later on, kicking goals? Or were Geelong ignoring that rule?
This is spot on. was listening to mmm on the way home and the bloke in the rooms (i think Michael Roberts) was saying that Duncan was concussed, however the cats decided to ignore the rules b/c of player rotations.

How they can blatantly do that without any type of sanction is bewildering to say the least. If this is the precedent, then players being banned from playing on concussed was just a fad the AFL introduced for a few weeks to make all the right sounds for the AMA. Either that or he wasn't concussed and Kosi was dudded. Which was it?

Give kosi two more weeks for that I say....

The whole thing is a joke. I am going to potter around in the garden and visit family for the rest of the season. They can stick the game for all I care. Straw that broke the camels back. Don't care anymore, the game does not make sense.

AdelaideSainter · Mon 20 Jun 2011 10:06pm

The AFL is losing me as a fan. How much more rubbish does the average footy fan have to put up with?

Despite my team being horrid for most of my liftetime (South Adel) give me the toughness and traditional nature of the SANFL any day (although even that is changing more and more

)

Saints Angel · Mon 20 Jun 2011 10:13pm

This is not the game I grew up with anymore. It has been spoiled. I now feel as though I don't know the rules anymore. Bring back the good old days. Kosi made a great tackle.

SydneySainter · Mon 20 Jun 2011 10:18pm

plugger66 wrote:No point in challenging. Will not get off. Just take the 2 weeks which he will do.

See where you're coming from, thought the same at first, but seeing as this season is just about dusted, don't think it makes much difference. Just challenge on principle.

Eastern · Post: # 1093269Post **Eastern** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 10:20pm

Bernard Shakey wrote:I hope we challenge.

On what grounds? (serious question). Don't get me wrong. If we have a serious chance we should go for it but I don't see that we can put up a good enough arguement !!

CURLY · Post: # 1093270Post **CURLY** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 10:27pm

Eastern wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:I hope we challenge.
On what grounds? (serious question). Don't get me wrong. If we have a serious chance we should go for it but I don't see that we can put up a good enough arguement !!

Hes being a smart arse. Waiting for the big punchline from the clown. So Kosi gets 3 and we have a chance.

Life Long Saint · Mon 20 Jun 2011 10:42pm

The ironic thing here is that had Duncan had prior opportunity he would have gone for holding the ball. As it was, the result was a ball-up.

Didn't sling. Didn't drive him into the ground. Dead set stiff and should challenge on principal. But ditch the dud we've had pleading our cases prior to this otherwise we have no chance.

gringo · Post: # 1093277Post **gringo** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 10:46pm

On the fact that when Trengove tackled they stipulated that it was because there was a secondary sling after the initial tackle. Did Kosi do that or was there a trial by media and while trying to look in control Dimmy rang through with a demand for more action from the tribunal?

suss · Post: # 1093279Post **suss** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 10:51pm

CURLY wrote:
Eastern wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:I hope we challenge.
On what grounds? (serious question). Don't get me wrong. If we have a serious chance we should go for it but I don't see that we can put up a good enough arguement !!
Hes being a smart arse. Waiting for the big punchline from the clown. So Kosi gets 3 and we have a chance.

The irony is that Kosi played pretty well on Saturday and had he been paid the free kicks he so thoroughly deserved from the molestation he received at the hands of Scarlett, he would've kicked five.

Poor old Kosi - boned on Saturday night by Scarlett and the umpires, boned on Monday by the MRP and the Geelong doctor. I'm really beginning to despise this game.

Bernard Shakey · Mon 20 Jun 2011 10:53pm

SainterK wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:I hope we challenge.
I was hoping that you would say that

I don't use emoticons.

Dr Spaceman · Mon 20 Jun 2011 10:54pm

suss wrote:
CURLY wrote:
Eastern wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:I hope we challenge.
On what grounds? (serious question). Don't get me wrong. If we have a serious chance we should go for it but I don't see that we can put up a good enough arguement !!
Hes being a smart arse. Waiting for the big punchline from the clown. So Kosi gets 3 and we have a chance.
The irony is that Kosi played pretty well on Saturday and had he been paid the free kicks he so thoroughly deserved from the molestation he received at the hands of Scarlett, he would've kicked five.

Poor old Kosi - boned on Saturday night by Scarlett and the umpires, boned on Monday by the MRP and the Geelong doctor. I'm really beginning to despise this game.

And boned for the last five years by a lot of people on here!

SainterK · Post: # 1093283Post **SainterK** » Mon 20 Jun 2011 10:55pm

Eastern wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:I hope we challenge.
On what grounds? (serious question). Don't get me wrong. If we have a serious chance we should go for it but I don't see that we can put up a good enough arguement !!

The head didn't hit the surface first?