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Just thought I would start this now....
What a woeful display of kicking from senior players , both just not up to AFL standard . Both always been unreliable but now every time they get it it's a turnover .... No confidence , should be playing for Sandy.
Reckon we would be level with the Cats or in front if these two could hit a target !!!!!!
Jack Newnes happy to be a Saint !!!! PS and to hit a target !!!
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If t lynch doesnt offer a bit more than either of those muppets then I will go he for tiggy. Reputations/record only get you so far, we are 12/13 games in and both have been woeful, consistently. Surely it's time to give lynch and or walsh a go. Surely? On what basis do gram and Gilbert continue to get selected? Its the same problem with the aus cricket team, selection based on reputation not form in the lower grade
elvis lives wrote:If t lynch doesnt offer a bit more than either of those muppets then I will go he for tiggy. Reputations/record only get you so far, we are 12/13 games in and both have been woeful, consistently. Surely it's time to give lynch and or walsh a go. Surely? On what basis do gram and Gilbert continue to get selected? Its the same problem with the aus cricket team, selection based on reputation not form in the lower grade
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Jack Newnes happy to be a Saint !!!! PS and to hit a target !!!
Gram was pretty poor tonight. Soft at the contest and his disposal is poor most of the times he plays. Was a big fan of his in 2009 but he has gone backward in a huge way since then.
elvis lives wrote:If t lynch doesnt offer a bit more than either of those muppets then I will go he for tiggy. Reputations/record only get you so far, we are 12/13 games in and both have been woeful, consistently. Surely it's time to give lynch and or walsh a go. Surely? On what basis do gram and Gilbert continue to get selected? Its the same problem with the aus cricket team, selection based on reputation not form in the lower grade
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Except the Aussie cricket team don't offer their best players new contracts.
Im sorry to say but honestly Gram should never play for us again, his disposal effeciency is around 50%, he cost us too many times during a game, and he looks reluctant to go in hard , give a kid a game , they cuoldn't do any worse !!!!! Gilbo at least looked to try hard , he's clangers early in the game didn't help him confidence wise , which is what he needs !!!!
Gram was woeful tonight at around 50% effective kicking.
He had 13 kicks - 8 innefective and 3 disgraceful clangers.
He has to go. He should not play for this club again.
Time to bring in footballers who can use it.
\Gilbert AT LEAST hits a contest and can take a mark/spoil = trade bait....hi GWS.
Gram's kicking was disgraceful. It's usually pretty poor but he took it to a new level tonight.
He stood out on a night when there were some pretty poor skills on display. Special mention also to the highly remunterated Scneider. Try to get the basics going before being a smartarse.
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Gram needs to extract his digit, and based on tonights game, he needs to do it at Sandy.
I watched his warm up intently. He just wanders around. He holds the shouder of a teammate, swings his legs a couple of times, then wanders off for a drink.
The guys are doing the run througjs, he is the only bloke who walks back to the start of the line when he's finished.
Regardless of his turnovers or hardness, he needs to show a bit of effort. Show that he actually wants to play AFL and play for St Kilda, not just live the rockstar life that goes with it.
Gram needs to extract his digit, and based on tonights game, he needs to do it at Sandy.
I watched his warm up intently. He just wanders around. He holds the shouder of a teammate, swings his legs a couple of times, then wanders off for a drink.
The guys are doing the run througjs, he is the only bloke who walks back to the start of the line when he's finished.
Regardless of his turnovers or hardness, he needs to show a bit of effort. Show that he actually wants to play AFL and play for St Kilda, not just live the rockstar life that goes with it.
St Chris wrote:Gram needs to extract his digit, and based on tonights game, he needs to do it at Sandy.
I watched his warm up intently. He just wanders around. He holds the shouder of a teammate, swings his legs a couple of times, then wanders off for a drink.
The guys are doing the run througjs, he is the only bloke who walks back to the start of the line when he's finished.
Regardless of his turnovers or hardness, he needs to show a bit of effort. Show that he actually wants to play AFL and play for St Kilda, not just live the rockstar life that goes with it.
He's done mate.
You dont learn/improve foot skills and decison making at this stage - hes finished and should ne be selected again.
We are not going fwd by playing Gram.
Without every side doing fwd presses in the past we could hide his poor disposals....now hes just a liability.
Gram's kick that I assume was aimed at Gamble, but fell 30 metres short was probably the worst turnover of career, and he's got a fair amount to choose from.
Gilbert showed signs at times, but did cost us at least 2 goals from kicks straight to Cats.
elvis lives wrote:If t lynch doesnt offer a bit more than either of those muppets then I will go he for tiggy. Reputations/record only get you so far, we are 12/13 games in and both have been woeful, consistently. Surely it's time to give lynch and or walsh a go. Surely? On what basis do gram and Gilbert continue to get selected? Its the same problem with the aus cricket team, selection based on reputation not form in the lower grade
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Lynch has shown NOTHING at senior level... why even bother?
Both players are appalling by foot and with their decision making. Both are ridiculously one-sided, but they can't even hit a target with their preferred side. Wouldn't mind giving both these players a spell in the 2's.
We will never progress while Gram & Gilbert continue to be selected. They would be the first 2 who should be put on the trade table. I dont know why Ross stopped the youth policy because it appears to be the thing which helped to turn the season back around. Please bring back the kids. Not all at once but surely on a steady rotation policy the benefits will soon be evident. There would be a couple of other senior players who should also be put on notice after such a mediocre performance tonight.
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Again, 24 touches, but 11 of them handballs. He is really in the side to take the game on, run and carry, kick it long, unless his role has changed...but I don't think so?
I don't particularly like Gilbo as a footballer but after a woeful start tonight, I thought he really got into the game halfway through the second quarter and really attacked the ball hard. I think every kick and handball after that was good.
