Team vs Bulldogs

maverick · Post: # 1087237Post **maverick** » Wed 08 Jun 2011 3:55pm

Middo wrote:Looking forward to Ledger taking on Joey's roll as I'm sure he's made to play at this level. Something about him that makes me feel he's what we have been looking for with pace and the want to take a game on !!

Is he hungry?

saint tash · Wed 08 Jun 2011 3:59pm

Dismiss this mob at our own peril guys and gals. Sure we have had the wood over them but me thinks playing them when they appear down and out and with a coach who seems destined not to be there next year we would certainly need to bring our best game.

Not sure what's happened with them this year but have certainly been surprised at their demise especially considering they still have quality cattle running around ala Boyd, Griffen, Cooney, Cross, Gia (

), Murphy, Higgins and even Sherman has been handy.

I think their depth is very questionable and unless they get big outputs from their leaders then we should win.

Melbourne showed what can happen when a side has their backs to the wall.

Middo · Post: # 1087239Post **Middo** » Wed 08 Jun 2011 4:05pm

maverick wrote:
Middo wrote:Looking forward to Ledger taking on Joey's roll as I'm sure he's made to play at this level. Something about him that makes me feel he's what we have been looking for with pace and the want to take a game on !!
Is he hungry?

Sausage ..?

saint tash · Wed 08 Jun 2011 4:49pm

No Joey virtually ensures Ledger will remain in the side as we need another runner.

McQualter anyone? Puleeze no.

How far away is Geary??

Armoooo · Post: # 1087267Post **Armoooo** » Wed 08 Jun 2011 4:53pm

Walsh in for Joey?

Ledger takes Joey's place in the rotations and Sam Fisher spends more time in the midfield?

AnythingsPossibleSaints · Wed 08 Jun 2011 9:31pm

It was mentioned on AFL 360 tonight that we will be playing our 9th "debutante" for the year this week. Has anyone heard anything official as to who that will be? Tommy Walsh I guess. They spoke with certainty that someone new will be getting a run.

bigcarl · Post: # 1087433Post **bigcarl** » Wed 08 Jun 2011 9:35pm

Walsh probably should have come in for Blake when he went down injured. Similar type (I hope). In fact if he's half as good as Blake has been for us over the years, he'll have done okay.

Raph might also get another shot at it after good form for Sandringham. It's really now or never for him.

SaintSimmo · Wed 08 Jun 2011 9:42pm

AnythingsPossibleSaints wrote:It was mentioned on AFL 360 tonight that we will be playing our 9th "debutante" for the year this week. Has anyone heard anything official as to who that will be? Tommy Walsh I guess. They spoke with certainty that someone new will be getting a run.

The only players on the senior list yet to debut is crocker, cahill and walsh.
Crock and Cahill are no chance so it seems walsh is debuting this week!!

saint66au · Post: # 1087439Post **saint66au** » Wed 08 Jun 2011 9:46pm

saint tash wrote:No Joey virtually ensures Ledger will remain in the side as we need another runner.

McQualter anyone? Puleeze no.

How far away is Geary??

Backward step if he was picked IMO..sadly he and Eddy are not the future for us

older saint · Wed 08 Jun 2011 9:53pm

Would think Walsh and Raph in

Mont out and with their lack of size Simpkins may be a victim of matchups?

spert · Post: # 1087445Post **spert** » Wed 08 Jun 2011 9:56pm

Had a big think

.and its pretty obvious we need more strength in contested situations in the backline and forward line, so the only inclusions would be Walsh for Montagna and maybe Raph for Simpkin who showed good signs for the future.. though maybe a couple more experienced heads might come back in for what is a crunch game for us this season.

plugger66 · Wed 08 Jun 2011 10:05pm

spert wrote:Had a big think .and its pretty obvious we need more strength in contested situations in the backline and forward line, so the only inclusions would be Walsh for Montagna and maybe Raph for Simpkin who showed good signs for the future.. though maybe a couple more experienced heads might come back in for what is a crunch game for us this season.

So it wasnt our midfield last week but our backline. Looked clearly to me that it was a midfield problem unless of course the backline are responsible for 60 I50 to 39.

dcstkfc · Post: # 1087449Post **dcstkfc** » Wed 08 Jun 2011 10:13pm

Al Smith would be a chance as a direct swap. He played well last week too.

dragit · Post: # 1087452Post **dragit** » Wed 08 Jun 2011 10:34pm

OUT Sippos (rested), Montagna (inj), Simpkin (couldn't run out the game last week)

In Kosi, Raph, Walsh

Gwilt in th ruck wasn't the best look i've seen, so if Kosi isn't fit I reckon they'll have to gamble on archer or stanley - or is walsh big enough to contest in the ruck?

bergholt · Post: # 1087501Post **bergholt** » Thu 09 Jun 2011 1:13am

Middo wrote:Looking forward to Ledger taking on Joey's role as I'm sure he's made to play at this level.

pressure much?

spert · Post: # 1087545Post **spert** » Thu 09 Jun 2011 10:20am

plugger66 wrote:
spert wrote:Had a big think .and its pretty obvious we need more strength in contested situations in the backline and forward line, so the only inclusions would be Walsh for Montagna and maybe Raph for Simpkin who showed good signs for the future.. though maybe a couple more experienced heads might come back in for what is a crunch game for us this season.
So it wasnt our midfield last week but our backline. Looked clearly to me that it was a midfield problem unless of course the backline are responsible for 60 I50 to 39.

The midfield is another story- a bit harder to fix! Could be that RL may drag Gram or McQ back to get experience in there at the expense of Armo who tries pretty hard, but just doesn't put the icing on the cake?

gringo · Post: # 1087554Post **gringo** » Thu 09 Jun 2011 10:41am

Is Gram injured? You would think experience as an outside mid would get him a game in joey's absence.

cwrcyn · Post: # 1087555Post **cwrcyn** » Thu 09 Jun 2011 10:42am

Saw the Sandringham game on Sunday. The only players worth considering from that game were (in order of performance) Clarke, Walsh, & Smith

Will Johnson struggled, Stanley lacked urgency, Kosi was crook and ineffectual. McQualter battled and did the occasional decent thing. Gram got into the game in the second half but his weaknesses remained.

With Montagna the only definite out, then the obvious replacement is Clarke. He was outstanding for Sandy. He could play at half-back and we could see Fisher and Gilbert spend more time on the middle, along with young Ledger.

With this hint of another debutant, it would be Walsh, so who goes out - Dawson or Simpkin? I though Simpkin did well last week, but ran out of puff. However, he wasn't interchanged at any stage. If Walsh does come in, it will be very interesting to see who gets the chop.

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saint tash · Thu 09 Jun 2011 1:38pm

If Gram can't fire a shot at Sandy in the next few weeks then he is seriously running out of time and currency is dropping by the week.

Whilst his papers aren't stamped, he's certainly not doing enough to warrant the football department pulling them out of the filing cabinet.

samoht · Post: # 1087649Post **samoht** » Thu 09 Jun 2011 1:40pm

cwrcyn wrote: If Walsh does come in, it will be very interesting to see who gets the chop.

.

Dawson ?

Eastern · Post: # 1087650Post **Eastern** » Thu 09 Jun 2011 1:41pm

dragit wrote:OUT Sippos (rested), Montagna (inj), Simpkin (couldn't run out the game last week)

In Kosi, Raph, Walsh

Gwilt in th ruck wasn't the best look i've seen, so if Kosi isn't fit I reckon they'll have to gamble on archer or stanley - or is walsh big enough to contest in the ruck?

For the sake of Kosi and for the sake of the club I think he should remain in the Sandy side until after the bye !!

Eastern · Post: # 1087654Post **Eastern** » Thu 09 Jun 2011 1:44pm

gringo wrote:Is Gram injured? You would think experience as an outside mid would get him a game in joey's absence.

Could be injury (groin again), could be form, could be both. Reports from the Sandy game last weekend suggest he hasn't earnt a recall !!

Animal Enclosure · Thu 09 Jun 2011 2:13pm

spert wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
spert wrote:Had a big think .and its pretty obvious we need more strength in contested situations in the backline and forward line, so the only inclusions would be Walsh for Montagna and maybe Raph for Simpkin who showed good signs for the future.. though maybe a couple more experienced heads might come back in for what is a crunch game for us this season.
So it wasnt our midfield last week but our backline. Looked clearly to me that it was a midfield problem unless of course the backline are responsible for 60 I50 to 39.
The midfield is another story- a bit harder to fix! Could be that RL may drag Gram or McQ back to get experience in there at the expense of Armo who tries pretty hard, but just doesn't put the icing on the cake?

I'm not sure why you're determined to see Armo out of the side....with Joey out that would be our three best inside, ball winning mids not playing (incl Lenny).

Mini & Casper the Friendly Gram put more pressure on supporters sitting in the 14th row than a contested ball.

Boyd & Cross would eat us for breakfast & may still do so.

Al Smith in for mine, Out Joey.... I'd like to see Simpkin get another go before Tommy comes in.

spert · Post: # 1087704Post **spert** » Thu 09 Jun 2011 4:37pm

Basically the midfield is poor, and has been most of the season so far, so I think we need to be trying a few different setups , and although I like Armo's endevour, I think he is a bit too slow.

BelfastSaint · Thu 09 Jun 2011 4:41pm

out for Bulldogs - Lake, Hill
In - Hudson.Cooney,Tom Liberatore + rookies Luke Dahlhaus & Ed Barlow

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/b ... 6072368095