Kosi must play

[To the top]

Yep, I have a go at Milne.

He is over 30 years of age and with over 200 games to his credit.

So he is amongt the most experienced players on our list - a list which is in transition with the introduction of new, young players.

I have a bit of (successful) coaching experience behind me and at a senior level - and that experience and what I demanded from those playing in teams I coached means I come from a position where senior players lead.

So they are relied on to "rev" their fellow players up before you go onto the ground, lead onto the ground encouraging their team mates to follow, lead in the warm up drills with plenty of voice and then lead during the game by example and with plenty of encouraging voice including "revving" at the huddles.

These were non negotiable benchmarks - and particularly when the team was in transition with younger players debuting.

So, yes, Milne jogging onto the park last with his football, jogging thru the banner last with his football and then jogging around last whilst bouncing his football more worried about taking shots on goal rankles me and my competative nature.

As a senior player, I want to see him at the front leading by example and not the show pony at the rear.

I never had a brief with show ponies.

I preferred those who led - and those who acknowledged the efforts of their team mates, lifting the confidence levels of those team mates and inspiring others.

From there Milne does not lead on field - and plays a selfish game as confirmed by the number of times he takes on opponents losing the ball to free kicks against.

So Milne is not my type of footballer.

Regardless of "averaging 2 goals a game".

[plugger66]

Yep, I have a go at Milne.

He is over 30 years of age and with over 200 games to his credit.

So he is amongt the most experienced players on our list - a list which is in transition with the introduction of new, young players.

I have a bit of (successful) coaching experience behind me and at a senior level - and that experience and what I demanded from those playing in teams I coached means I come from a position where senior players lead.

So they are relied on to "rev" their fellow players up before you go onto the ground, lead onto the ground encouraging their team mates to follow, lead in the warm up drills with plenty of voice and then lead during the game by example and with plenty of encouraging voice including "revving" at the huddles.

These were non negotiable benchmarks - and particularly when the team was in transition with younger players debuting.

So, yes, Milne jogging onto the park last with his football, jogging thru the banner last with his football and then jogging around last whilst bouncing his football more worried about taking shots on goal rankles me and my competative nature.

As a senior player, I want to see him at the front leading by example and not the show pony at the rear.

I never had a brief with show ponies.

I preferred those who led - and those who acknowledged the efforts of their team mates, lifting the confidence levels of those team mates and inspiring others.

From there Milne does not lead on field - and plays a selfish game as confirmed by the number of times he takes on opponents losing the ball to free kicks against.

So Milne is not my type of footballer.

Regardless of "averaging 2 goals a game".

You are consistant. You write a lot and dont say much. Some of that stuff you have just written is just plain untrue and complete rubbish.

Milney is always up there is assists but dont let that change your mind. Running out last. Who cares. They actually rev each other up before they run through the banner. You or I wouldnt have a clue if he revs up players. Pity you dont value consistant performance over 10 years compared to a person who had one good first year and 4 good games 4 years later.

[dcstkfc]

Is To the Top also known as GT?

[White Winmar]

"Revving up" is a relic of the past. Professional athletes have long known that getting into a high state of physiological arousal well before performing is tiring and ultimately counter-productive. Go down to the rooms and watch the preparation. The days of coaches and players screaming "motivational" phrases while the theme from Rocky blared in the background are long gone. Preparation these days is concentrated around task clarification, discussion of tactics, the opposition and remaining as relaxed and focused as possible.

Sure the captain will gather the troops prior to the bounce and get serious with them, but condemning Milney for not indulging in an anachronistic practice is just plain ignorant. In any event, he's excitable enough. He doesn't need "revving up". His record speaks for itself. Magnificent. Point out a current or past player who has been more effective, or has performed better in the small forward role. I await with interest.

[Enrico_Misso]

Today proved we don't need Kosi.

Why Ben was dropped last week for Kosi defies belief.
Kosi is now at best a backup for Ben.
And this will be his last season at the club.

[SainterK]

Today proved we don't need Kosi.

Why Ben was dropped last week for Kosi defies belief.
Kosi is now at best a backup for Ben.
And this will be his last season at the club.

Oh good grief...

He will likely be back this week.

Let's just take it one week at a time, and do our best not to write off players at OUR club?

[Bernard Shakey]

Today proved we don't need Kosi.

Why Ben was dropped last week for Kosi defies belief.
Kosi is now at best a backup for Ben.
And this will be his last season at the club.

Some looney signed him for next year as well, but it wouldn't be the first time we've delisted a player under contract. No possibility of trading him though.

[gringo]

I'm glad no one on here is actually in charge of player and list management.

You know you guys should go back to beating some respect into your wives and children. We have already had a go at Kosi, Dawson and even steven. Where are the Peake isn't in the forward planning of the team guys now?

[MCG-Unit]

Today proved we don't need Kosi.

Why Ben was dropped last week for Kosi defies belief.
Kosi is now at best a backup for Ben.
And this will be his last season at the club.

And not long ago, you didn't want Peake to get a game - glad you're not on the selection panel

Good that you can find a negative after a win though

[saintkid]

Today proved we don't need Kosi.

Why Ben was dropped last week for Kosi defies belief.
Kosi is now at best a backup for Ben.
And this will be his last season at the club.

Some looney signed him for next year as well, but it wouldn't be the first time we've delisted a player under contract. No possibility of trading him though.

That's right some idiot has him signed up for next year too but its time to give up on him. Sippos has more to offer now as long as they keep playing him. He may not be a better mark yet but he's faster than Kosi and a better kick than both him and Roo.

[PJ]

I hope to see Kosi back next week, let's face it some that will remain anonymous would have no one to shyte bag.

[saint58]

Seriously dont understand why people on here want him dropped. Its no coincedence that when hes in the side we won our only two games. Riewoldt clearly plays better with Kosi in and we just look more dangerous. I know his stats dont always back him but his effort is always for the team and we lack presence when hes not playing.

Also to the clown on here who posted on here that Kosi got kneed in the head twice while rucking was due to lack of awareness. FFS get a clue.

You have to be joking,iam a big fan of kosi but iam a bigger fan of the saints and to have him play today would have been a mistake.He will not take us to the premership but Big Mc might thats the difference.

Big mc played very well and dominated the ruck and got a lot of the second efforts we have to stick with him now as he will get better.

Iam afraid kosi wont and its not helping our side if he is in now unless he has same fantastic form For Sandy.

[saintjake]

Yep, I have a go at Milne.

He is over 30 years of age and with over 200 games to his credit.

So he is amongt the most experienced players on our list - a list which is in transition with the introduction of new, young players.

I have a bit of (successful) coaching experience behind me and at a senior level - and that experience and what I demanded from those playing in teams I coached means I come from a position where senior players lead.

So they are relied on to "rev" their fellow players up before you go onto the ground, lead onto the ground encouraging their team mates to follow, lead in the warm up drills with plenty of voice and then lead during the game by example and with plenty of encouraging voice including "revving" at the huddles.

These were non negotiable benchmarks - and particularly when the team was in transition with younger players debuting.

So, yes, Milne jogging onto the park last with his football, jogging thru the banner last with his football and then jogging around last whilst bouncing his football more worried about taking shots on goal rankles me and my competative nature.

As a senior player, I want to see him at the front leading by example and not the show pony at the rear.

I never had a brief with show ponies.

I preferred those who led - and those who acknowledged the efforts of their team mates, lifting the confidence levels of those team mates and inspiring others.

From there Milne does not lead on field - and plays a selfish game as confirmed by the number of times he takes on opponents losing the ball to free kicks against.

So Milne is not my type of footballer.

Regardless of "averaging 2 goals a game".

Okay Hero, Milney is always ALWAYS last out. Its like a tradition for him. and if you watch any game. Milne is ALWAYS chatting in the huddles. he is ALWAYS revving the boys up.
crackpot

[Enrico_Misso]

Winmar
as in Nicky Winmar
Number #7
was always the last player to run out.
Then he actually used to jog around the banner rather than run through it.
And he seldom got vocal with his team-mates.

Does that make him a disinterested dud?


As for criticising Milne for not being vocal!!!!!
Are you aware his nickname is yapper?

[SainterK]

Who needs enemies when you have supporters like these?

Feel the desperate need to bag someone, well go have a look here and pick a target to unleash on next week.

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/players ... fault.aspx

[bobmurray]

Who needs enemies when you have supporters like these?

Feel the desperate need to bag someone, well go have a look here and pick a target to unleash on next week.

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/players ... fault.aspx

Maybe you need to snap out of your blind faith for those that wear a Saints jumper. J.Koshitstick must be the luckiest bloke in the country to earn more than a 1/4 of a million a year and have absolutely no binding KPI's on his performance. We need to have players that will contribute to winning a flag.

He is fast running out of time to prove himself.. I think in 4 years, he and his sympathisers, will be out of excuses.. The limited time left will tell if us Saints supporters have been harsh in our ongoing criticism of him..No other club would afford one of it's serial under performers this much latitude.

[plugger66]

I have learnt that Kosi mustnt play if our attitude is right. Playing guys because they make space for others doesnt win big games. Kosi will play next when he finally plays well enough to deserve it and it is probably about time.

[Dr Spaceman]

If people are going to knock Kosi it would be good if they could at least hold off until he's next selected to play.

In the meantime we can focus on a great win over Freo and discuss the merits of those who actually played.

[SainterK]

Who needs enemies when you have supporters like these?

Feel the desperate need to bag someone, well go have a look here and pick a target to unleash on next week.

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/players ... fault.aspx

Maybe you need to snap out of your blind faith for those that wear a Saints jumper. J.Koshitstick must be the luckiest bloke in the country to earn more than a 1/4 of a million a year and have absolutely no binding KPI's on his performance. We need to have players that will contribute to winning a flag.

He is fast running out of time to prove himself.. I think in 4 years, he and his sympathisers, will be out of excuses.. The limited time left will tell if us Saints supporters have been harsh in our ongoing criticism of him..No other club would afford one of it's serial under performers this much latitude.

I don't need to snap out of anything.

You are not the coach, or a selector.

Just because you say he is on his last chance, or he is running out of time, means a big fat zero.

Oh and how original with the nickname, something you'd hear yelled out by an 'opposition' supporter....so thanks for summing up my point perfectly Bob

[joffaboy]

Who needs enemies when you have supporters like these?

Feel the desperate need to bag someone, well go have a look here and pick a target to unleash on next week.

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/players ... fault.aspx

Maybe you need to snap out of your blind faith for those that wear a Saints jumper. J.Koshitstick must be the luckiest bloke in the country to earn more than a 1/4 of a million a year and have absolutely no binding KPI's on his performance. We need to have players that will contribute to winning a flag.

He is fast running out of time to prove himself.. I think in 4 years, he and his sympathisers, will be out of excuses.. The limited time left will tell if us Saints supporters have been harsh in our ongoing criticism of him..No other club would afford one of it's serial under performers this much latitude.

I don't need to snap out of anything.

You are not the coach, or a selector.

Just because you say he is on his last chance, or he is running out of time, means a big fat zero.

Oh and how original with the nickname, something you'd hear yelled out by an 'opposition' supporter....so thanks for summing up my point perfectly Bob

Dont bother SainterK, sad sacks like BS and bobmurray will always find something to nope about even when we win.

usually dont see bobmurray unless we lose, actually hope for it earlier in the season so he could come on here and bag players.

obviously his self esteem is wrapped up in his football team, and can never be happy.

If we won a flag bobmurray would find something to complain about.

[bobmurray]

Who needs enemies when you have supporters like these?

Feel the desperate need to bag someone, well go have a look here and pick a target to unleash on next week.

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/players ... fault.aspx

Maybe you need to snap out of your blind faith for those that wear a Saints jumper. J.Koshitstick must be the luckiest bloke in the country to earn more than a 1/4 of a million a year and have absolutely no binding KPI's on his performance. We need to have players that will contribute to winning a flag.

He is fast running out of time to prove himself.. I think in 4 years, he and his sympathisers, will be out of excuses.. The limited time left will tell if us Saints supporters have been harsh in our ongoing criticism of him..No other club would afford one of it's serial under performers this much latitude.

I don't need to snap out of anything.

You are not the coach, or a selector.

Just because you say he is on his last chance, or he is running out of time, means a big fat zero.

Oh and how original with the nickname, something you'd hear yelled out by an 'opposition' supporter....so thanks for summing up my point perfectly Bob

i think your blind faith is bordering on ridiculous..but don't let me scratch your rose coloured glasses....you pitch for your favourites and the rest of us will push the view the club should favour match day contributers....

i dont have another 40 years to wait for a flag...my view..if they consistently struggle..thank them and move them on......regardless of how high they were drafted...

fair dinkum...it shouldn't be debatable...it should be logical...

[stinger]

Today proved we don't need Kosi.

Why Ben was dropped last week for Kosi defies belief.
Kosi is now at best a backup for Ben.
And this will be his last season at the club.

what utter nonsense...ffs...

[Dr Spaceman]

Who needs enemies when you have supporters like these?

Feel the desperate need to bag someone, well go have a look here and pick a target to unleash on next week.

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/players ... fault.aspx

Maybe you need to snap out of your blind faith for those that wear a Saints jumper. J.Koshitstick must be the luckiest bloke in the country to earn more than a 1/4 of a million a year and have absolutely no binding KPI's on his performance. We need to have players that will contribute to winning a flag.

He is fast running out of time to prove himself.. I think in 4 years, he and his sympathisers, will be out of excuses.. The limited time left will tell if us Saints supporters have been harsh in our ongoing criticism of him..No other club would afford one of it's serial under performers this much latitude.

I don't need to snap out of anything.

You are not the coach, or a selector.

Just because you say he is on his last chance, or he is running out of time, means a big fat zero.

Oh and how original with the nickname, something you'd hear yelled out by an 'opposition' supporter....so thanks for summing up my point perfectly Bob

i think your blind faith is bordering on ridiculous..but don't let me scratch your rose coloured glasses....you pitch for your favourites and the rest of us will push the view the club should favour match day contributers....

i dont have another 40 years to wait for a flag...my view..if they consistently struggle..thank them and move them on......regardless of how high they were drafted...

fair dinkum...it shouldn't be debatable...it should be logical...

But if Kosi plays it's because Ross has selected him, not SainterK.

I think you got this all wrong bob. Some of us support Kosi but our faith is to the club. Ross is in charge of the club.  If he picks Kosi we'll support him, if someone else is selected we'll support them.

Surely that is logical

[bobmurray]

Who needs enemies when you have supporters like these?

Feel the desperate need to bag someone, well go have a look here and pick a target to unleash on next week.

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/players ... fault.aspx

Maybe you need to snap out of your blind faith for those that wear a Saints jumper. J.Koshitstick must be the luckiest bloke in the country to earn more than a 1/4 of a million a year and have absolutely no binding KPI's on his performance. We need to have players that will contribute to winning a flag.

He is fast running out of time to prove himself.. I think in 4 years, he and his sympathisers, will be out of excuses.. The limited time left will tell if us Saints supporters have been harsh in our ongoing criticism of him..No other club would afford one of it's serial under performers this much latitude.

I don't need to snap out of anything.

You are not the coach, or a selector.

Just because you say he is on his last chance, or he is running out of time, means a big fat zero.

Oh and how original with the nickname, something you'd hear yelled out by an 'opposition' supporter....so thanks for summing up my point perfectly Bob

Dont bother SainterK, sad sacks like BS and bobmurray will always find something to nope about even when we win.

usually dont see bobmurray unless we lose, actually hope for it earlier in the season so he could come on here and bag players.

obviously his self esteem is wrapped up in his football team, and can never be happy.

If we won a flag bobmurray would find something to complain about.

If we won a flag Joffa you'd be straight on here potting as many supporters as you could before you flaked it i think the mods should change your name to Harry the Potter.... what a flog...serial non contributor...look forward to your next non contribution

[joffaboy]

Who needs enemies when you have supporters like these?

Feel the desperate need to bag someone, well go have a look here and pick a target to unleash on next week.

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/players ... fault.aspx

Maybe you need to snap out of your blind faith for those that wear a Saints jumper. J.Koshitstick must be the luckiest bloke in the country to earn more than a 1/4 of a million a year and have absolutely no binding KPI's on his performance. We need to have players that will contribute to winning a flag.

He is fast running out of time to prove himself.. I think in 4 years, he and his sympathisers, will be out of excuses.. The limited time left will tell if us Saints supporters have been harsh in our ongoing criticism of him..No other club would afford one of it's serial under performers this much latitude.

I don't need to snap out of anything.

You are not the coach, or a selector.

Just because you say he is on his last chance, or he is running out of time, means a big fat zero.

Oh and how original with the nickname, something you'd hear yelled out by an 'opposition' supporter....so thanks for summing up my point perfectly Bob

i think your blind faith is bordering on ridiculous..but don't let me scratch your rose coloured glasses....you pitch for your favourites and the rest of us will push the view the club should favour match day contributers....

i dont have another 40 years to wait for a flag...my view..if they consistently struggle..thank them and move them on......regardless of how high they were drafted...

fair dinkum...it shouldn't be debatable...it should be logical...

But if Kosi plays it's because Ross has selected him, not SainterK.

I think you got this all wrong bob. Some of us support Kosi but our faith is to the club. Ross is in charge of the club.  If he picks Kosi we'll support him, if someone else is selected we'll support them.

Surely that is logical

Dont talk sense to bobmurray. he cant wait another 40 years and apparently Kois has held us back from winning one since 1966

Face it guys, moaning bitching supporters like bobmurray are part and parcel of supporting a football club.

it attracts weak minded individuals who think they are more so important they can demand things to happen at a football club.

Would be funny if it wasn't so sad.