clint jones

terry smith rules · Sat 21 May 2011 8:35pm

wonderful game today

completely towelled up davey and ran off him numerous times to be that link player

he looked sharp and his old pace was almost there

he has copped it on here recently, but if he keeps going like that he is a keeper.. for sure

fqf

Thinline · Post: # 1078702Post **Thinline** » Sat 21 May 2011 8:36pm

Broke Davey early, but Davey is about as determined as wet tissue.

A scalp's a scalp, but let's place it in its correct context.

Jones busted his butt with effort today. He and Peake set a standard for hard run. Commendable.

Cairnsman · Post: # 1078709Post **Cairnsman** » Sat 21 May 2011 8:43pm

Thinline wrote:Broke Davey early, but Davey is about as determined as wet tissue.

A scalp's a scalp, but let's place it in its correct context.

Jones busted his butt with effort today. He and Peake set a standard for hard run. Commendable.

Effort was great. Just wish he could kick better than than someone in the little league.

gringo · Post: # 1078810Post **gringo** » Sat 21 May 2011 10:13pm

He isn't that bad a kick, Ray who is usually reliable butchered two entries today. He kicks like the karate kid on a pole but it seems to get a result. It is a Cometti myth that he can't kick. Just an awful style.

borderbarry · Sat 21 May 2011 10:15pm

No. Jones really cant kick, unfortunately.

gringo · Post: # 1078833Post **gringo** » Sat 21 May 2011 10:33pm

I think fans have really unrealistic expectations of what is achievable. There are a few players in the 700 odd afl players that hardly ever make a mistake, but some are unfairly maligned. A mythology springs up, usually because of elite performances, and people look past their failings. Other guys who are consistent performers get labelled and their deficiencies are watched for. Jones has a bad game and is gone - Hodge has a shocker and he must be injured.

Wrote for Luck · Sat 21 May 2011 10:36pm

jones was at his best tonight! complete joy!

Bernard Shakey · Sat 21 May 2011 10:39pm

gringo wrote:I think fans have really unrealistic expectations of what is achievable. There are a few players in the 700 odd afl players that hardly ever make a mistake, but some are unfairly maligned. A mythology springs up, usually because of elite performances, and people look past their failings. Other guys who are consistent performers get labelled and their deficiencies are watched for. Jones has a bad game and is gone - Hodge has a shocker and he must be injured.

How many bad games does Hodge have compared to CJ?
Sorry that is a dumb question, why would you even mention Hodge and CJ in the same sentence?

Saintersss · Sat 21 May 2011 10:42pm

Destroyed Mitchell last week as well.

mad saint guy · Sat 21 May 2011 10:43pm

Pressure and effort was fantastic, disposal just awful. For now we don't have anyone to force him out, but you don't want to be having a crack at a flag with someone who panics every time he gets the ball.

SaintPav · Post: # 1078854Post **SaintPav** » Sat 21 May 2011 11:08pm

mad saint guy wrote: For now we don't have anyone to force him out,

Good call. Basically same words used in match committee I am led to believe.

Munga · Post: # 1078863Post **Munga** » Sat 21 May 2011 11:19pm

pfft Clint probably hit more targets than most, it's just when he miss kicks they miss by a lot

BringBackMadDog · Sat 21 May 2011 11:36pm

22 disposals at 74% efficiency and murdered one of their potential match winners. That will do every week.

mad saint guy · Sun 22 May 2011 12:06am

BringBackMadDog wrote:22 disposals at 74% efficiency and murdered one of their potential match winners. That will do every week.

The issue there being that a backwards handball to a teammate under pressure who takes possession for half a second and is tackled registers as 'effective'.

ralphsmith · Sun 22 May 2011 12:10am

His great attribute is his running.

But boy he does some strange things as mentioned. Has possession, could go the penetrating long kick into the forward line but doubts himself, and goes for the squibbly backwards handball to a man who's about to be cleaned up.

Culd slot through a goal, but chips 8.5 meters to someone on an angle with an opponent hot on their tail.

But can run and plays with great vigor.

Missing the brain of a footballer though. The athlete syndrome that plagues the competition these days.

Junction Oval · Sun 22 May 2011 12:30am

His games this year have been a shadow of who he was - no confidence whatsoever. However, a great turnaround over the past two weeks - much harder running and kicking long for a change.

In past weeks, he has only wanted to handaball and/or short kicks backwards. We know that he can't kick well, but it has been good to see him breaking the lines and kicking long.

Munga · Post: # 1078912Post **Munga** » Sun 22 May 2011 12:45am

ralphsmith wrote: Missing the brain of a footballer though.

geez I totally disagree, I think he's one of the best brains at the clubs

saintDal · Post: # 1078915Post **saintDal** » Sun 22 May 2011 12:55am

Munga wrote:pfft Clint probably hit more targets than most, it's just when he miss kicks they miss by a lot

Also the fact that his kicking style looks pretty bad makes you percieve it as a bad kick even though it hits his team mate on the chest

saintpeter · Sun 22 May 2011 12:56am

Munga... i also think he is a footballer rather than an athlete

SainterK · Post: # 1078934Post **SainterK** » Sun 22 May 2011 2:05am

I'm just going to pat him on the back for a great game, and not feel the need to be picky.

Pwoit · Post: # 1078940Post **Pwoit** » Sun 22 May 2011 2:23am

SainterK wrote:I'm just going to pat him on the back for a great game, and not feel the need to be picky.

Agree - go away negative nancys

Saintersss · Sun 22 May 2011 2:33am

People have to understand that not every player can be a good kick. The team currently probably has too many bad kicks, however all teams can afford a few bad kicks in the side. I definitely have Jones in the starting 21.

Have a look at Collingwood. Cloke, Wellingham, Ball and a few others are pretty poor kicks. You can't expect 21 good/great kicks in the team.

True Blue Sainter · Sun 22 May 2011 3:09am

Good game for CJ today. Had Davey frustrated, and was actually quite useful when we had the ball as well. One of his better games since '09. Backing up a nice shut-down effort on Mitchell last week.

meher baba · Sun 22 May 2011 7:26am

See next post.

meher baba · Sun 22 May 2011 7:27am

There are two totally different ways of looking at CJ's game today. Firstly, he totally destroyed Davey, ran off him into space, busted a gut, etc, etc.

Great, terrific, etc, etc.

Secondly - leaving aside what the stats keepers define as an "effective" disposal - CJ was absolutely hopeless when he had the ball in his hand: almost every handball he made was a looping sort of thing to a player under more pressure than him, and virtuallyevery kick was either directly to an opponent or off into nowhere in particular.

Opposing teams worked CJ out 18 months ago. They make no attempt to stop him getting the ball and will even kick to contests in which he's involved. CJ with ball in hand is no sort of threat whatsoever.

I love the guy's bravery, hard running and all round effort. But I'm not sure we really want him in our team going forward.

Hard call, I know, but if we are going to make the hard calls on McQualter, Gram, Kosi, Raph, Baker, etc at the end of the season, CJ has to be in the mix.