luke ball

[plugger66]

hate to dwell on it but the nonsense by our club in that whole exchange cost us a flag

Just another in the long list of stupidity that has undermined this club.

yep.....going right back to the days of ian stewart....swapped to the tigers for an over the hill billy barrett...who went on to play the grand total of two games for us whilst ian won another brownlow paying in black and yellow...


...and don't get me started on big carl, plugger, trott..or dozens of others


that 97 match on footy classics today where we gave a 9 goal thrashing to the years before flag winners just highlighted our stupidity to me.....shanahan and smith walked out in exchange for sfa at seasons end.....brown was delisted , lappin traded, and spider eventually given the old heave ho....along with barry hall from the grand final team.... some years later.....and we hurtled to the bottom of the ladder

Lost Daryl Wakelin too.

Shane also of course, but I didn't rate him much when he was with us.

yep...thanks for reminding me...you can blame that flower blight for losing the wakelins...

...didn't sziller go to the tigers as well....and of course healy went back to sth aussie where he starred for years alongside the gowan twins who were never given a go.....or the time of day by the then coaches........sad history the saints.....

...only difference is that this time, starting with the appointments of thomas and butterss...and carried through to the appointment of ross.......i thought it was going to be different...

...thought your post on ball above was well thought out.. still makes me wanna

How is your memory? Not good obviously. We got Hamill for Daryl. A good move with most people who understand the game. Sziller was finished when he left, Healy was never good enough to be a regular and the Gowens brothers were good seconds player. So after bagging the club for losing 6, the only bas loss was Shane and the club were told by medicos that he may struggle to play again. Flower.

[ralphsmith]

I couldn't see a future for ball at the saints. He was slow nd couldn't kick over a jam tin.

I was very critical of him in those last few years at the saints, only to be shouted down mercilessly by other supports claiming how loyal he was, how he bleeds red whit and black.

He is playing in an elite collingwood outfit with arguably the best midfield in the league. Certainly masks his terrible weaknesses well.

What if he had gone to Melbourne or some other basket case team (that statement will probably bite me In the ass when they thrash us this weekend) ?

We wouldnt care.

[Spinner]

hate to dwell on it but the nonsense by our club in that whole exchange cost us a flag

Just another in the long list of stupidity that has undermined this club.

yep.....going right back to the days of ian stewart....swapped to the tigers for an over the hill billy barrett...who went on to play the grand total of two games for us whilst ian won another brownlow paying in black and yellow...


...and don't get me started on big carl, plugger, trott..or dozens of others


that 97 match on footy classics today where we gave a 9 goal thrashing to the years before flag winners just highlighted our stupidity to me.....shanahan and smith walked out in exchange for sfa at seasons end.....brown was delisted , lappin traded, and spider eventually given the old heave ho....along with barry hall from the grand final team.... some years later.....and we hurtled to the bottom of the ladder

Lost Daryl Wakelin too.

Shane also of course, but I didn't rate him much when he was with us.

yep...thanks for reminding me...you can blame that flower blight for losing the wakelins...

...didn't sziller go to the tigers as well....and of course healy went back to sth aussie where he starred for years alongside the gowan twins who were never given a go.....or the time of day by the then coaches........sad history the saints.....

...only difference is that this time, starting with the appointments of thomas and butterss...and carried through to the appointment of ross.......i thought it was going to be different...

...thought your post on ball above was well thought out.. still makes me wanna

How is your memory? Not good obviously. We got Hamill for Daryl. A good move with most people who understand the game. Sziller was finished when he left, Healy was never good enough to be a regular and the Gowens brothers were good seconds player. So after bagging the club for losing 6, the only bas loss was Shane and the club were told by medicos that he may struggle to play again. Flower.

Zing..!

Actually we got pick 4 for Darryl

[duckduckduckgoose]

Lol if you tried watching some non stkilda easendon games BM you might have rated Lovett. Came off a super year for a player in his role.

Did his role involve locking women in car boots?

Passing on Cousins and taking Lovett (at 16!) was monumental. And that's not hindsight.
If they had taken or left both I could understand and accept that.

Big Mart I like the way you are able to see beyond the emotional footy supporter crap and see the Ball situation for what it was.
A great big mistake.

We can only hope Ross has learned from his error in not rating quality people around a football club.

[duckduckduckgoose]

Ball's gone- get over it.

What a simplistic view this is.

I think it is quite a pertinent discussion at the moment.

Our team has a severe decifiency in clearances and we let one of the best in the business go for nothing.

"Get over it" screams short attention span. Why read a book when you can just read 160 character Twitter posts?

We got lucky last year and didn't have any mids go down.

I dont believe we would have got anywhere near a flag if Lenny had done his knee in 2010. Especially when the next cabs off the rank have been Armitage, Geary, Peake for the last couple of years.

There is a grand canyon between our first picked mids and the rest.

[Thinline]

I do love a Luke Ball thread. They just get better every time. Always such refreshing new ideas.

[Spinner]

Ball's gone- get over it.

What a simplistic view this is.

I think it is quite a pertinent discussion at the moment.

Our team has a severe decifiency in clearances and we let one of the best in the business go for nothing.

"Get over it" screams short attention span. Why read a book when you can just read 160 character Twitter posts?

We got lucky last year and didn't have any mids go down.

I dont believe we would have got anywhere near a flag if Lenny had done his knee in 2010. Especially when the next cabs off the rank have been Armitage, Geary, Peake for the last couple of years.

There is a grand canyon between our first picked mids and the rest.

Well get over it anyway.

There were two possible outcomes.

Nothing for Ball.

Pick 30 for Ball.


Either way he still wouldn't be here. And it's fantasy thinking pick 30 would be contributing to anything other than vfl at the moment.

Either way 2011, we still struggle for clearances.

[Saints43]

There were two possible outcomes.

Nothing for Ball.

Pick 30 for Ball.

So seeing Ball as a valuable contributor and keeping him at the club wasn't an option? I suppose he's lucky it was for another club.

[Mr Magic]

There were two possible outcomes.

Nothing for Ball.

Pick 30 for Ball.

So seeing Ball as a valuable contributor and keeping him at the club wasn't an option? I suppose he's lucky it was for another club.

No, in reality it wasn't an option.
Luke Ball and his management made that impossible.
He walked out on St Kilda.
Some may say it was a reasonable decision on his part, but the facts remain that he walked out.
He was offered a new contract and decided not to accept it and leave.
The contract he was offered (1 million dollars over 3 years) showed how much St Kilda valued him.

[plugger66]

There were two possible outcomes.

Nothing for Ball.

Pick 30 for Ball.

So seeing Ball as a valuable contributor and keeping him at the club wasn't an option? I suppose he's lucky it was for another club.

No, in reality it wasn't an option.
Luke Ball and his management made that impossible.
He walked out on St Kilda.
Some may say it was a reasonable decision on his part, but the facts remain that he walked out.
He was offered a new contract and decided not to accept it and leave.
The contract he was offered (1 million dollars over 3 years) showed how much St Kilda valued him.

Or how silly we were considering he was dropped again just after we offerred it to him.

[saintbrat]

There were two possible outcomes.

Nothing for Ball.

Pick 30 for Ball.

So seeing Ball as a valuable contributor and keeping him at the club wasn't an option? I suppose he's lucky it was for another club.

No, in reality it wasn't an option.
Luke Ball and his management made that impossible.
He walked out on St Kilda.
Some may say it was a reasonable decision on his part, but the facts remain that he walked out.
He was offered a new contract and decided not to accept it and leave.
The contract he was offered (1 million dollars over 3 years) showed how much St Kilda valued him.

Barrett let out yesterday or this morning that Thomas and Pendelbury can thank Ball- because he is going from $475,000 per year to around $100,000 next year meaning there is room for them..

[Mr Magic]

There were two possible outcomes.

Nothing for Ball.

Pick 30 for Ball.

So seeing Ball as a valuable contributor and keeping him at the club wasn't an option? I suppose he's lucky it was for another club.

No, in reality it wasn't an option.
Luke Ball and his management made that impossible.
He walked out on St Kilda.
Some may say it was a reasonable decision on his part, but the facts remain that he walked out.
He was offered a new contract and decided not to accept it and leave.
The contract he was offered (1 million dollars over 3 years) showed how much St Kilda valued him.

Or how silly we were considering he was dropped again just after we offerred it to him.

Actually I believe it was offered to him prior to being dropped/rested the first time (after the Geelong game.

Clearly we valued him less than Collingwood was prepared to value him at.

[plugger66]

There were two possible outcomes.

Nothing for Ball.

Pick 30 for Ball.

So seeing Ball as a valuable contributor and keeping him at the club wasn't an option? I suppose he's lucky it was for another club.

No, in reality it wasn't an option.
Luke Ball and his management made that impossible.
He walked out on St Kilda.
Some may say it was a reasonable decision on his part, but the facts remain that he walked out.
He was offered a new contract and decided not to accept it and leave.
The contract he was offered (1 million dollars over 3 years) showed how much St Kilda valued him.

Or how silly we were considering he was dropped again just after we offerred it to him.

Actually I believe it was offered to him prior to being dropped/rested the first time (after the Geelong game.

Clearly we valued him less than Collingwood was prepared to value him at.

Well it seems to me over 3 years they valued him the same. Anyway money had 10% to do with it. Game time was 90%.

[Mr Magic]

There were two possible outcomes.

Nothing for Ball.

Pick 30 for Ball.

So seeing Ball as a valuable contributor and keeping him at the club wasn't an option? I suppose he's lucky it was for another club.

No, in reality it wasn't an option.
Luke Ball and his management made that impossible.
He walked out on St Kilda.
Some may say it was a reasonable decision on his part, but the facts remain that he walked out.
He was offered a new contract and decided not to accept it and leave.
The contract he was offered (1 million dollars over 3 years) showed how much St Kilda valued him.

Or how silly we were considering he was dropped again just after we offerred it to him.

Actually I believe it was offered to him prior to being dropped/rested the first time (after the Geelong game.

Clearly we valued him less than Collingwood was prepared to value him at.

Well it seems to me over 3 years they valued him the same. Anyway money had 10% to do with it. Game time was 90%.

So I assume you are now agreeing with me that Ball made the decision to leave St Kilda?

BTW
How did Ormond go today?

[patto]

Ball's gone- get over it.

What a simplistic view this is.

I think it is quite a pertinent discussion at the moment.

Our team has a severe decifiency in clearances and we let one of the best in the business go for nothing.

"Get over it" screams short attention span. Why read a book when you can just read 160 character Twitter posts?

We got lucky last year and didn't have any mids go down.


I dont believe we would have got anywhere near a flag if Lenny had done his knee in 2010. Especially when the next cabs off the rank have been Armitage, Geary, Peake for the last couple of years.

There is a grand canyon between our first picked mids and the rest.

"Get over it" screams its in the past... He left almost a season and a half ago, so get over it!!!