I am going to make a hard call and say we need to let this kid go. If he can't get us first use of the ball and I think from memory is last in the competition for ruckman in hitouts then whats the point keeping him?
Hale had 12 hitouts in what 1 and a bit quarters, yet McEvoy can only get 20 against Franklin and Roughead? He should have dominated these guys.
I know he is a kid, but he isn't going to be able to run any faster or jump any higher as he matures, so make the hard call and get a kid with speed and agility who can get the ball slammed down our throat at the centre bounces.
Ben McEvoy is not the answer
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He's a shocking ruckman but I think he's worth persevering with. Ideally he will draft a mature (25 year old or so, so he can play a role for a few years) ruckman to play alongside him as he develops. McEvoy has potential and he's very young.
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I know I'll get mocked for saying this - but even though he wasn't great - I was surprised we let Pattison go last year, knowing what we knew about MG's long term injury, with Kosi's injury & form concerns & with Stanley far too light to take first ruck duties - I would've thought Pattison would've made good insurance for our dwindling ruck stocks for this season.
Re: Ben McEvoy is not the answer
Kids like that are really hard to find. I reckon there are 4 in the comp, being Sandilands, Cox and Zac Smith. A good midfield will be able to read it off opposition ruckman, and ours cant.RodKeoghsLoveChild wrote:I am going to make a hard call and say we need to let this kid go. If he can't get us first use of the ball and I think from memory is last in the competition for ruckman in hitouts then whats the point keeping him?
Hale had 12 hitouts in what 1 and a bit quarters, yet McEvoy can only get 20 against Franklin and Roughead? He should have dominated these guys.
I know he is a kid, but he isn't going to be able to run any faster or jump any higher as he matures, so make the hard call and get a kid with speed and agility who can get the ball slammed down our throat at the centre bounces.
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As much as i rate McEvoy I dont think he is a number 1 ruckman. If we had a dominate ruckman like a Dean Cox or Sandilands and he was our backup and playing at FF then we would be praising him for how good he is. The game has changed dramatically since he was recruited and has been forced into the number 1 role with Gardi going down injured...
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I haven't seen him influence anything. I could handle it if the kid floated forward and was an option, or was a tall who floated across the backline to take marks, but he does neither.sRaf wrote:Ruckmen take a long time to develop. To get rid of McEvoy now would be idiotic, especially with him now beginning to influence games.
What I am saying is if he isn't influential in the ruck and also offers little around the ground then what's the point persisting? He is far too slow and has no vertical leap.
Like a midget at a urinal, I was going to have to stay on my toes.
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Hate to say it but I agree with the OP. Big macca should be embarrassed by his efforts today. I was embarrassed for him. Rucking against Roughead and was smashed.
He's got a good pair of hands, but that's about it at the moment. He's weak in the body, slow in mind as well as foot speed. Plenty of young ruckmen around who are showing stacks more than him.
He's got a good pair of hands, but that's about it at the moment. He's weak in the body, slow in mind as well as foot speed. Plenty of young ruckmen around who are showing stacks more than him.
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Except for Zac Smith and Tom Nicholls at GC.sRaf wrote:Ruckmen take a long time to develop. To get rid of McEvoy now would be idiotic, especially with him now beginning to influence games.
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Kosi is good because he kicks a swag of goals evrey 6 or several matches, plays the 2nd ruck to perfection....savatage wrote:Kosi is good because he can...ummm....plugger66 wrote:If McEvoy aint the answer can anyone tell what Kosi is the answer to. He ia actually a terrible ruckman with no upside. Ben is 21 and at least still has an upside. Plenty to go or not being the answer before Ben.
No Kosi is good trade fodder to a GWS side inn my opinion. Sorry but I have thought this for up to 4-5 years now and one reasonable game last weekend taking some pack marks doesnt change my opinion.
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I am unsure a coach can make players jump higher. Anyway I may be on my own here by the looks of it but I reckon Ben has had a very good year. I would be blaming the ball winners more than the ruckman. Plenty of sides have won first possesion after losing tap outs. We did constantly in 2004-06Junction Oval wrote:Give him the rest of the year and see what improvement there is, then make the call on whether to keep him or not.
I would have thought that with all of the replay footage that Clubs have today, Kingy should be able to show him what needs to be done.
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