MRP - Joey 1 game

[stinger]

..smart move not appealing...if he had he would have got two weeks.....

[Johnny Member]

"Other Incidents Assessed:
Contact between St Kilda’s Justin Koschitzke and Carlton’s Ed Curnow from the first quarter of Monday’s match was assessed. The panel said that no contact was made by Koschitzke to the shoulder region that Curnow had previously damaged during the quarter. No further action was taken."

Kosi looks like he is lucky that he isnt smart and hit his good shoulder

That is extraordinary.

So the rule includes an 'injured' player, deemed fit enough by his club doctors to come back on? So if Kosi did hit his shoulder, regardless of the fact his club declared him fit enough to return to the field - Kosi would have got weeks??


Come on.

Why are you surprized?
Isn't that exactly what Baker got for doing to Johnson who was sent back onto the field last year?

I thought Bakes actually got done for a strike, when he hit the hand! Not the 'contact with an injured player' thing.

[Mr Magic]

"Other Incidents Assessed:
Contact between St Kilda’s Justin Koschitzke and Carlton’s Ed Curnow from the first quarter of Monday’s match was assessed. The panel said that no contact was made by Koschitzke to the shoulder region that Curnow had previously damaged during the quarter. No further action was taken."

Kosi looks like he is lucky that he isnt smart and hit his good shoulder

That is extraordinary.

So the rule includes an 'injured' player, deemed fit enough by his club doctors to come back on? So if Kosi did hit his shoulder, regardless of the fact his club declared him fit enough to return to the field - Kosi would have got weeks??


Come on.

Why are you surprized?
Isn't that exactly what Baker got for doing to Johnson who was sent back onto the field last year?

Spot on.. It comes back to the Baker incident last year even though Stevie J actually came into the game "injured" he coped a week for hitting his "injured" hand...

So as the rule now stands (and is apparently being interpreted by the MRP) if a player comes into a game with an injured shoulder, or injures his shoulder during the game, an opposition player isn't allowed to tackle him or bump him on that shoulder in any circumstance?

Given that Curnow was sent back onto the field we may have witnessed the farce of him being able to play without any fear of being bumped on 1 side of his body or tackled anywhere near that shoulder without the opposition player being cited for an offence?
(I can think of a number of occasions during a game when a bump/shepherd would normally be applied by an opposition player on 'a Curnow')

And if 'a Curnow' plays next game, does his 'injured shoulder' remain 'injured' for the duration of the game?
When does his 'injured shoulder' become 'uninjured'?

What 'injuries' carried into games orreceived during games are not allowed to be 'touched'?

If somebody receives a corky to the hip does that mean that nobody is now allowed to bump or tackle him anywhere near that hip during that game?

[Mr Magic]

"Other Incidents Assessed:
Contact between St Kilda’s Justin Koschitzke and Carlton’s Ed Curnow from the first quarter of Monday’s match was assessed. The panel said that no contact was made by Koschitzke to the shoulder region that Curnow had previously damaged during the quarter. No further action was taken."

Kosi looks like he is lucky that he isnt smart and hit his good shoulder

That is extraordinary.

So the rule includes an 'injured' player, deemed fit enough by his club doctors to come back on? So if Kosi did hit his shoulder, regardless of the fact his club declared him fit enough to return to the field - Kosi would have got weeks??


Come on.

Why are you surprized?
Isn't that exactly what Baker got for doing to Johnson who was sent back onto the field last year?

I thought Bakes actually got done for a strike, when he hit the hand! Not the 'contact with an injured player' thing.

I'm pretty sure the offence was knowingly striking an opponent's injury?

[SainterK]

More pressure should come on Carlton for sending him back out there, for the sake of their rotations.

What Joey did was not tough, and very silly.

What the medical staff did was negligent.

[CURLY]

Jack Riewoldt anyone????? Punched Pears from Essendon repeatadly on ahand that was broken recieved nothing.

[spert]

So if an opposition player has say a badly bruised back from a previous collision in the game, and is on the field, and you attempt a screamer over him and make contact with your knee to his bruises, then you get reported for an un-Australian, unmanly act?

Two totally different scenarios. What a terrible argument

Sorry bud, just keeping the arguments consistant with this forum!

[saintbrat]

Jack Riewoldt anyone????? Punched Pears from

before Bakes-- there are so many 'Rules' that Bakes has tightened over his career

maybe they should put him on the Rules committee- when he retires.

with Joey the tiggy touch was before Curnow was diagnosed- butjust after he stood up

Dermie had a defence for him this morning....

[fingers]

Interesting tweet from Bakes

"I'm taking up netball next year, will be a step up in toughness...."

[Ice Wolf]

Interesting tweet from Bakes

"I'm taking up netball next year, will be a step up in toughness...."

Bakes should get in on the fast-track course for being an umpire would be great.

[St Chris]

Interesting tweet from Bakes

"I'm taking up netball next year, will be a step up in toughness...."

This just in from AFL.com.......

"Steven Baker of St Kilda has been charged with minsconduct in that he unreasonably or unnecessarily tweeted derogatory comments regarding the sport. The tweeting was deemed to be intentional conduct, bringing 7 activation points, or a Level 14 offence.

His existing poor record means an additional 25% points loading lifts the charge to a level 16 offence, drawing 3400 demerit points, or 34 weeks suspension.

He can accept a 33 week suspension with an early plea....."

[Saint_Ash]

"Other Incidents Assessed:
Contact between St Kilda’s Justin Koschitzke and Carlton’s Ed Curnow from the first quarter of Monday’s match was assessed. The panel said that no contact was made by Koschitzke to the shoulder region that Curnow had previously damaged during the quarter. No further action was taken."

Kosi looks like he is lucky that he isnt smart and hit his good shoulder

That is extraordinary.

So the rule includes an 'injured' player, deemed fit enough by his club doctors to come back on? So if Kosi did hit his shoulder, regardless of the fact his club declared him fit enough to return to the field - Kosi would have got weeks??


Come on.

Why are you surprized?
Isn't that exactly what Baker got for doing to Johnson who was sent back onto the field last year?

Spot on.. It comes back to the Baker incident last year even though Stevie J actually came into the game "injured" he coped a week for hitting his "injured" hand...

So as the rule now stands (and is apparently being interpreted by the MRP) if a player comes into a game with an injured shoulder, or injures his shoulder during the game, an opposition player isn't allowed to tackle him or bump him on that shoulder in any circumstance?

What if a team mate fires off a handball and the injured player takes possession and just throws it on the boot?? Could he or could he not be bumped or tackled whilst attempting to kick??

[Johnny Member]

What if a team mate fires off a handball and the injured player takes possession and just throws it on the boot?? Could he or could he not be bumped or tackled whilst attempting to kick??

What if Roo has a crook back? No defender can go near him!

[saintbrat]

Interesting tweet from Bakes

"I'm taking up netball next year, will be a step up in toughness...."

This just in from AFL.com.......

"Steven Baker of St Kilda has been charged with minsconduct in that he unreasonably or unnecessarily tweeted derogatory comments regarding the sport. The tweeting was deemed to be intentional conduct, bringing 7 activation points, or a Level 14 offence.

His existing poor record means an additional 25% points loading lifts the charge to a level 16 offence, drawing 3400 demerit points, or 34 weeks suspension.

He can accept a 33 week suspension with an early plea....."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/t ... 6052693677

[BigMart]

I have nearly had a enough of our soft c**k club and the morons running it...

When melbourne start showing bigger balls, you know your f....ked

When was the lAst tome we fought a decisoon and won.....let alone a ridiculous one...

And some context...

A 115kg mal michael and two scott idiots continually bumping into someone holding their arm against a 75kg leigh montagna bumping a bent over curow once is a little different....

Hpw many weeks for Michael??

If player is on the field of play and not in the handa of the trainers he is fair game, within the rules....


I remember rick mccpsker facing andy roberts first ball after Coming in with a broken jaw from roberts....what did Roberts bowl???

Was it in the 'spirit' of the game.......yes....

Its what makes our game require courage, the fact that a persons toughness can be sought out.

[plugger66]

I have nearly had a enough of our soft c**k club and the morons running it...

When melbourne start showing bigger balls, you know your f....ked

When was the lAst tome we fought a decisoon and won.....let alone a ridiculous one...

And some context...

A 115kg mal michael and two scott idiots continually bumping into someone holding their arm against a 75kg leigh montagna bumping a bent over curow once is a little different....

Hpw many weeks for Michael??

If player is on the field of play and not in the handa of the trainers he is fair game, within the rules....


I remember rick mccpsker facing andy roberts first ball after Coming in with a broken jaw from roberts....what did Roberts bowl???

Was it in the 'spirit' of the game.......yes....

Its what makes our game require courage, the fact that a persons toughness can be sought out.

Why are you bringing up something that is irrelevant. The rules have changed since then. And Melbourne challenged and will probably lose an extra week. What does that prove, they have bigger balls or are stupid? An why would Joey apologize if he thought there was totally nothing in it and why didnt Rl say he was not guilty when on TV last night?

The Saints did exactly as they should have. Copped the week instead of losing him for 2.

[Johnny Member]

Maybe they've been thinking about giving him a week off to get his calf right anyway.

[BigMart]

Why did he get a week plugger.....what was the charge

[plugger66]

Why did he get a week plugger.....what was the charge

Contact with an injured player I believe.

[BigMart]

Who deterined the injury??

[plugger66]

Who deterined the injury??

If Joey couldnt see he was injured then he is blind. Why would he ring him up if he thought he was 100% innocent?

[stinger]

I have nearly had a enough of our soft c**k club and the morons running it...

When melbourne start showing bigger balls, you know your f....ked

When was the lAst tome we fought a decisoon and won.....let alone a ridiculous one...

And some context...

A 115kg mal michael and two scott idiots continually bumping into someone holding their arm against a 75kg leigh montagna bumping a bent over curow once is a little different....

Hpw many weeks for Michael??

If player is on the field of play and not in the handa of the trainers he is fair game, within the rules....


I remember rick mccpsker facing andy roberts first ball after Coming in with a broken jaw from roberts....what did Roberts bowl???

Was it in the 'spirit' of the game.......yes....

Its what makes our game require courage, the fact that a persons toughness can be sought out.

...and on the insiders last night scott was highly critical of joey...said it wasn't in the spirit of the game........now i can never remember which of the krahe brothers was which....but one threw lenny into a fence the other bashed up on a very injured roo.....talk about hypocritical.....

and i like the guy as a footy commentator...

[Thinline]

I have nearly had a enough of our soft c**k club and the morons running it...

When melbourne start showing bigger balls, you know your f....ked

When was the lAst tome we fought a decisoon and won.....let alone a ridiculous one...

And some context...

A 115kg mal michael and two scott idiots continually bumping into someone holding their arm against a 75kg leigh montagna bumping a bent over curow once is a little different....

Hpw many weeks for Michael??

If player is on the field of play and not in the handa of the trainers he is fair game, within the rules....


I remember rick mccpsker facing andy roberts first ball after Coming in with a broken jaw from roberts....what did Roberts bowl???

Was it in the 'spirit' of the game.......yes....

Its what makes our game require courage, the fact that a persons toughness can be sought out.

Why are you bringing up something that is irrelevant. The rules have changed since then. And Melbourne challenged and will probably lose an extra week. What does that prove, they have bigger balls or are stupid? An why would Joey apologize if he thought there was totally nothing in it and why didnt Rl say he was not guilty when on TV last night?

The Saints did exactly as they should have. Copped the week instead of losing him for 2.

Ridiculous cooked up charge for a non-crime. Sentence imposed only to appease the marketing tail that has slowly taken to wagging the Great Dane.

Are players now expected to take heed of knee/shoulder/quad/elbow strapping on opponents when they take to the field from here on end?

Colour it anyway you want, this 'decision', like the Trengove tackle sentence, is absolute stinking piffle and simply serves to rationalise an argument that the present day judiciary system whether by design or as it's evolved is no more than a front for AFL brand protectionism instead of an arbitrator of the laws of the game.

In the end Montagna had no choice but to 'accept' the ban. St Kilda, like most of the other clubs, have been brow-beaten into submission.

Hopefully his calf's better for the rest.

[BigMart]

Could he determine the extent of the injury.....if so, and the injury was serious....why did a qualified doctor put him back on the ground.....surely he felt his injury was not too bad


Apology was instructed to protect the clubs brand.....otherwise mums wont let their little boys play footy....and demetriou want every kid in the known world to only play afl.....every other sport is the enemy

[plugger66]

Could he determine the extent of the injury.....if so, and the injury was serious....why did a qualified doctor put him back on the ground.....surely he felt his injury was not too bad


Apology was instructed to protect the clubs brand.....otherwise mums wont let their little boys play footy....and demetriou want every kid in the known world to only play afl.....every other sport is the enemy

I doubt he could see the extent of the injury but I reckon he knew he was hurt. Also how do you know the club told him to say sorry. Is there a link or do you know someone at the club?

Can I ask you why Joey even needed to take the risk knowing what the rule is. What was the point?