Time to play the youngsters....

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The_Sainter
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Time to play the youngsters....

Post: # 1068234Post The_Sainter »

All, we are not going to progress this year and play finals footy with the likes of Andrew McQualter, Ben McEvoy and Steven Baker in our best 22, let's be realistic they would not get a game with another AFL club. Steven Baker has been a great servant for the saints however his time is up. I am amazed how Andrew McQualter gets a game every week and Ben McEvoy is too slow and currently ranked 16th in the AFL for ruck duties... Our downfall has been the ability to recruit quality ruckmen, I'm happy with Gardiner however he is at the tail-end of his career. It is TIME to start playing more youngsters' and even give the irish experiment (Tommy Walsh) a game. In hindsight if we had recruited Ben Cousins and retained Luke Ball (offered him a decent contract) we would have won back-to-back flags. On paper a side that has Andrew McQualter, Robert Eddy and Ben McEvoy will not bring you much success on that final day in September... PS: Might be a good idea to start playing Riewoldt on the wing also. Richo played his best footy there....


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Post: # 1068238Post saintlee »

Let me see....we have played in 5 games, the following first-gamers:
Archer
Smith
Johnson
Cripps

Add to that Steven and Stanley who have played around 10 games.

So I don't think you can argue RL isn't playing kids.


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Post: # 1068240Post Saints43 »

You are the only person who has thought of this despite Saintsational having thousands of registered users.

Well worth a new thread.


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Post: # 1068242Post CeilidhSaint »

Don't agree.
Mcevoy for one is a young guy.
Who would you put on their small forwards if not baker.
As for roo on a wing, would be for a change up only and to say richo played his best there... Yeah right... Richo, where did you play your best footy? Deffo my time as a sneaky wing man......!


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Post: # 1068260Post The_Sainter »

Dempster springs to mind to replace Baker playing on a small forward...
Ben McEvoy is young and is a good overhead mark however is very slow compared to "other" ruckmen.

Didn't you watch the losing grand final last year... M8 a snail would have been quicker...

I thought Nick Riewoldt would have been playing at another level this year after last years debacle... I was wrong....

Does anyone know how Lenny Hayes operation has gone?


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Post: # 1068262Post joffaboy »

The_Sainter wrote:Does anyone know how Lenny Hayes operation has gone?
Why do you care - he is not a kid.


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Post: # 1068267Post Bigmal47 »

It is time for changes , rotating players that are past their use by date and the proven duds may see us win 5 or 6 games, blooding young players may result in even less wins but could be beneficial at draft time ie providing our recruiting staff can finally demonstrate some knowledge of the game.
I'm not just being negative and believe the following ideas could work in the long term. Drop Baker (past his use by date, poor disposal), Blake (ditto Baker), McQualter, Dawson, Peake, Stanley, Eddy, Gamble, Jones, Cahill, Heyne and possibly Smith all lack either the pace, skills ,concentration or work rate to play at the top level and will not be a part of a competitive team of the future.
Stick with McEvoy (no other option at present), bring in Winmar, Cripps, Ledger, Sippos, Walsh. Play Gilbert, Kosi and Armo hopefully all will find form and can then be traded to GWS for 16 year olds. The final touch would be to replace Lyon with the likes of Malthouse (remember where he started) to develop these players, this is a long term fix but the immediate future is already irreversible


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Post: # 1068284Post St Lenny »

This line of thinking is driving me bananas. We are playing kids, or don't you know our players :evil:


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Post: # 1068288Post St. Luke »

The last thing we need is major disruption to the side. I think it's promising seeing players like Will Johnson debuting, but it has to be kept in perspective. We're lacking major confidence, but it'll come. Patience.


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Post: # 1068439Post cwrcyn »

Perhaps a team like this would be interesting, and something we might see by round 10

Gwilt Dawson Fisher
Goddard WALSH Gilbert
CRIPPS Armitage Gram
Schneider Riewoldt STEVEN
SIPOSS Koschitzke Milne

McEVOY Jones Montagna

Inter: Dal Santo LEDGER Gardiner Ray

Emerg: Stanley Winmar Smith Geary


That's 5 players aged 21 or younger (and one new to AFL in Walsh)

Consigned to back up status only: Blake Baker McQualter Dempster.







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Post: # 1068663Post GrumpyOne »

Time to play the youngsters....
:roll: :roll: We are.


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Post: # 1068668Post matrix »

cwrcyn wrote:Perhaps a team like this would be interesting, and something we might see by round 10

Gwilt Dawson Fisher
Goddard WALSH Gilbert
CRIPPS Armitage Gram
Schneider Riewoldt STEVEN
SIPOSS Koschitzke Milne

McEVOY Jones Montagna

Inter: Dal Santo LEDGER Gardiner Ray

Emerg: Stanley Winmar Smith Geary

that actually looks alright i reckon
maybe gilbert my only worry
(but i think most of his probs are mental and no right foot)


That's 5 players aged 21 or younger (and one new to AFL in Walsh)

Consigned to back up status only: Blake Baker McQualter Dempster.
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that actually looks alright i reckon
(as long as gilbert improves )


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Post: # 1068776Post plugger66 »

cwrcyn wrote:Perhaps a team like this would be interesting, and something we might see by round 10

Gwilt Dawson Fisher
Goddard WALSH Gilbert
CRIPPS Armitage Gram
Schneider Riewoldt STEVEN
SIPOSS Koschitzke Milne

McEVOY Jones Montagna

Inter: Dal Santo LEDGER Gardiner Ray

Emerg: Stanley Winmar Smith Geary


That's 5 players aged 21 or younger (and one new to AFL in Walsh)

Consigned to back up status only: Blake Baker McQualter Dempster.







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We played 2 this game and you have already got rid of one of them and in case you and others saying play youngsters, we are.


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Post: # 1068779Post MCG-Unit »

Bigmal47 wrote:
It is time for changes........... Play Gilbert, Kosi and Armo hopefully all will find form and can then be traded to GWS for 16 year olds.....
So play guys into form - then trade them :shock:


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Post: # 1068780Post Dr Spaceman »

MCG-Unit wrote:
Bigmal47 wrote:
It is time for changes........... Play Gilbert, Kosi and Armo hopefully all will find form and can then be traded to GWS for 16 year olds.....
So play guys into form - then trade them  :shock:
I'll see your :shock: and raise you three  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:


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Post: # 1068790Post MCG-Unit »

Dr Spaceman wrote:
MCG-Unit wrote:
Bigmal47 wrote:
It is time for changes........... Play Gilbert, Kosi and Armo hopefully all will find form and can then be traded to GWS for 16 year olds.....
So play guys into form - then trade them  :shock:
I'll see your :shock: and raise you three  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
I'm done - you dealt too good a hand for me :shock: :shock:


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Post: # 1068800Post degruch »

Lets trade all our young players to GWS and get even younger players...this is not good enough!!!


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Post: # 1068819Post Dr Spaceman »

degruch wrote:Lets trade all our young players to GWS and get even younger players...this is not good enough!!!
Conner Harvey looks set to go. Play him now :wink:


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Post: # 1068830Post degruch »

Dr Spaceman wrote:
degruch wrote:Lets trade all our young players to GWS and get even younger players...this is not good enough!!!
Conner Harvey looks set to go. Play him now :wink:
b4e will get up in arms over our clash nappies.


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Post: # 1068833Post Dr Spaceman »

degruch wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:
degruch wrote:Lets trade all our young players to GWS and get even younger players...this is not good enough!!!
Conner Harvey looks set to go. Play him now :wink:
b4e will get up in arms over our clash nappies.
You mean the white ones with a brown streak down the back :lol:


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