Jason Gram B.O.G

plugger66 · Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:08pm

What a crap thread. Gram was better than most but hey he is letting us down. Must be a good player if we think he is the problem. Looks like he is worth 10 goals. maybe we better look at Joey, Bj, Gilbert and Gwilt before hom tonight.

Enrico_Misso · Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:09pm

The sad thing is that 3 or 4 years ago Grammy was a fantastic kick.

Now he turns it over Raph Clarke style.

Teflon · Post: # 1059175Post **Teflon** » Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:12pm

Its not just his disposal - its also his lack of bodying hes prepared toput into his opponent.

We wont flags with Gram in the side.

st_Trav_ofWA · Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:15pm

plugger66 wrote:What a crap thread. Gram was better than most but hey he is letting us down. Must be a good player if we think he is the problem. Looks like he is worth 10 goals. maybe we better look at Joey, Bj, Gilbert and Gwilt before hom tonight.

plugger not doubting BJ Gilbert and Gwilt had shockers .... but those guys will make up for their bad games (and if not them its to the VFL for them ) Gram has been progresively going down hill ever since the whole Lovett thing ... he got pleanty of touches today but he did nothing with those touches plus as a defender he does not play on his man well enough to convince me that he adds value to the team ...

enough is enough there are blokes like Mini and Eddy who get dropped and delisted because thier form go's down hill yet Gram keeps his spot .... the bloke can play he has shown it but for whatever reason he just doesnt deliver anymore

Bardon Saint · Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:16pm

the whole gram v goddard thing.

Goddard has the ability but has a mental issue (prob something to do with giving your heart and soul to 3 gfs and getting sfa back).

Gram just does not use the ball well. And seldom has. It's an ability issue.

The problem (saints playing like rubbish) lies deeper than Gram's ineffective disposal. There are other players who I'd drop first.

plugger66 · Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:17pm

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
plugger66 wrote:What a crap thread. Gram was better than most but hey he is letting us down. Must be a good player if we think he is the problem. Looks like he is worth 10 goals. maybe we better look at Joey, Bj, Gilbert and Gwilt before hom tonight.
plugger not doubting BJ Gilbert and Gwilt had shockers .... but those guys will make up for their bad games (and if not them its to the VFL for them ) Gram has been progresively going down hill ever since the whole Lovett thing ... he got pleanty of touches today but he did nothing with those touches plus as a defender he does not play on his man well enough to convince me that he adds value to the team ...

enough is enough there are blokes like Mini and Eddy who get dropped and delisted because thier form go's down hill yet Gram keeps his spot .... the bloke can play he has shown it but for whatever reason he just doesnt deliver anymore

I dont get what people want out of this guy. He kicked a goal tonight from the wing and set up at least 5 shots for goal for other players. He was in the top 6 players for us for sure. Yes some of his kicking was ordinary but some was also very good. Way ahead of many tonight.

Batnoe · Post: # 1059191Post **Batnoe** » Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:17pm

What a weak piece of shot f****** footballer. Would rather someone that gets 10 touches 100 percent effictiveness than this weak prick

plugger66 · Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:18pm

Batnoe wrote:What a weak piece of shot f****** footballer. Would rather someone that gets 10 touches 100 percent effictiveness than this weak prick

Excellent statement.

bigred · Post: # 1059195Post **bigred** » Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:18pm

Kick chasing.

While his man is 25 meters away.

Turns it over anyway.

We have not butchered the ball like this since 2001.

Our foot skills at the moment are eclipsed by the Gold Coast.

degruch · Post: # 1059205Post **degruch** » Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:20pm

plugger66 wrote:
Batnoe wrote:What a weak piece of shot f****** footballer. Would rather someone that gets 10 touches 100 percent effictiveness than this weak prick
Excellent statement.

About sums up why you don't get it. Port supporters felt the same way about Kane Cornes.

plugger66 · Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:22pm

degruch wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Batnoe wrote:What a weak piece of shot f****** footballer. Would rather someone that gets 10 touches 100 percent effictiveness than this weak prick
Excellent statement.
About sums up why you don't get it. Port supporters felt the same way about Kane Cornes.

I thought he played in a winning GF side and also won a B&F. I get it exactly. Pick on the same guys every week even if they are OK.

st_Trav_ofWA · Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:22pm

plugger66 wrote:
st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
plugger66 wrote:What a crap thread. Gram was better than most but hey he is letting us down. Must be a good player if we think he is the problem. Looks like he is worth 10 goals. maybe we better look at Joey, Bj, Gilbert and Gwilt before hom tonight.
plugger not doubting BJ Gilbert and Gwilt had shockers .... but those guys will make up for their bad games (and if not them its to the VFL for them ) Gram has been progresively going down hill ever since the whole Lovett thing ... he got pleanty of touches today but he did nothing with those touches plus as a defender he does not play on his man well enough to convince me that he adds value to the team ...

enough is enough there are blokes like Mini and Eddy who get dropped and delisted because thier form go's down hill yet Gram keeps his spot .... the bloke can play he has shown it but for whatever reason he just doesnt deliver anymore
I dont get what people want out of this guy. He kicked a goal tonight from the wing and set up at least 5 shots for goal for other players. He was in the top 6 players for us for sure. Yes some of his kicking was ordinary but some was also very good. Way ahead of many tonight.

yeah he kicked a goal .. he also got out played by a guy in his second season countless times ... Gram is a defender but he cannot defend to save his life his direct opponent killed us today ... so yeah gram kicked a goal and set up shots on goal but he failed in is job to stop the essendon forward ...

the fact he was in our best 6 tonight is a fair indication of how bad we were and the fact we lost by 10 goals ...

MCG-Unit · Post: # 1059220Post **MCG-Unit** » Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:23pm

Bardon Saint wrote:
Goddard has the ability but has a mental issue (prob something to do with giving your heart and soul to 3 gfs and getting sfa back).

Gram just does not use the ball well. And seldom has. It's an ability issue.

The problem (saints playing like rubbish) lies deeper than Gram's ineffective disposal. There are other players who'd I drop first.

Yep Saints problems are way deeper than Gram's clangers, he was not the worst out there tonight by a long way

plugger66 · Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:24pm

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
plugger66 wrote:What a crap thread. Gram was better than most but hey he is letting us down. Must be a good player if we think he is the problem. Looks like he is worth 10 goals. maybe we better look at Joey, Bj, Gilbert and Gwilt before hom tonight.
plugger not doubting BJ Gilbert and Gwilt had shockers .... but those guys will make up for their bad games (and if not them its to the VFL for them ) Gram has been progresively going down hill ever since the whole Lovett thing ... he got pleanty of touches today but he did nothing with those touches plus as a defender he does not play on his man well enough to convince me that he adds value to the team ...

enough is enough there are blokes like Mini and Eddy who get dropped and delisted because thier form go's down hill yet Gram keeps his spot .... the bloke can play he has shown it but for whatever reason he just doesnt deliver anymore
I dont get what people want out of this guy. He kicked a goal tonight from the wing and set up at least 5 shots for goal for other players. He was in the top 6 players for us for sure. Yes some of his kicking was ordinary but some was also very good. Way ahead of many tonight.
yeah he kicked a goal .. he also got out played by a guy in his second season countless times ... Gram is a defender but he cannot defend to save his life his direct opponent killed us today ... so yeah gram kicked a goal and set up shots on goal but he failed in is job to stop the essendon forward ...

the fact he was in our best 6 tonight is a fair indication of how bad we were and the fact we lost by 10 goals ...

Did you see Gwilts opponent tonight? And no one is arguing how bad we were. I am arguing that there were many worse than him.

degruch · Post: # 1059227Post **degruch** » Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:26pm

plugger66 wrote:
degruch wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Batnoe wrote:What a weak piece of shot f****** footballer. Would rather someone that gets 10 touches 100 percent effictiveness than this weak prick
Excellent statement.
About sums up why you don't get it. Port supporters felt the same way about Kane Cornes.
I thought he played in a winning GF side and also won a B&F. I get it exactly. Pick on the same guys every week even if they are OK.

I wouldn't be picking on him (and all his other slackarse mates) if they'd been any good. Time to fire a warning across Grammy's bow, Ross.

duckduckduckgoose · Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:26pm

Keep in mind Gram was injured for a good chunk of last year.

Every team has blokes that cant kick a ball, Unfortunately we have far too many of them.

It seems to be a team rule that once we get a turn over, we need to put it in the hands of someone who can use it well.

Which like communisim is a great idea in theory.

However by the time Gilbert passes to McQualter who passes to Gram who passes to Peake who passes to CJ who passes to Clarke who passes to Dempster who passes to Dal Santo, Dal has received the ball 40 meters behind where we started and has 3 blokes on top of him.

Designated kickers:
Dal Santo
Gwilt
Goddard
Schnieder

If those 4 blokes aren't around, the ball is butchered.

Saints Angel · Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:28pm

I heard on the radio that Jason Gram turned the ball over 5 times resulting in Essendon getting 5 goals. Sooner he goes the better. Play Tom Lynch please.

degruch · Post: # 1059236Post **degruch** » Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:28pm

duckduckduckgoose wrote:However by the time Gilbert passes to McQualter who passes to Gram who passes to Peake who passes to CJ who passes to Clarke who passes to Dempster who passes to Dal Santo...

I might point out, there's no way in hell we'd ever get 2 kicks in this chain without a turnover.

skeptic · Post: # 1059245Post **skeptic** » Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:31pm

Gram was ok today

InkerSaint · Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:35pm

Gram - BOG for clangers - statistical fact.

After his radio comments last week he should have been a standard bearer tonight.

Unless your comment about players playing out their last year was a personal reflection. In which case Grammy, you shouldn't have done the team the disservice of showing up.

Teflon · Post: # 1059307Post **Teflon** » Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:52pm

skeptic wrote:Gram was ok today

Can not even remotely agree.

The turn overs were critical - deplorable and the poor defensive body on body work when 1 out was comical.

30 touches dont tell the story.

plugger66 · Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:54pm

Teflon wrote:
skeptic wrote:Gram was ok today
Can not even remotely agree.

The turn overs were critical - deplorable and the poor defensive body on body work when 1 out was comical.

30 touches dont tell the story.

Who was better than him today? Give us some names.

degruch · Post: # 1059316Post **degruch** » Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:55pm

plugger66 wrote:
Teflon wrote:
skeptic wrote:Gram was ok today
Can not even remotely agree.

The turn overs were critical - deplorable and the poor defensive body on body work when 1 out was comical.

30 touches dont tell the story.
Who was better than him today? Give us some names.

Essendon, or St Kilda?

plugger66 · Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:56pm

degruch wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Teflon wrote:
skeptic wrote:Gram was ok today
Can not even remotely agree.

The turn overs were critical - deplorable and the poor defensive body on body work when 1 out was comical.

30 touches dont tell the story.
Who was better than him today? Give us some names.
Essendon, or St Kilda?

Plenty of Dons players. What about our side.

degruch · Post: # 1059322Post **degruch** » Sun 10 Apr 2011 10:57pm

plugger66 wrote:
degruch wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Teflon wrote:
skeptic wrote:Gram was ok today
Can not even remotely agree.

The turn overs were critical - deplorable and the poor defensive body on body work when 1 out was comical.

30 touches dont tell the story.
Who was better than him today? Give us some names.
Essendon, or St Kilda?
Plenty of Dons players. What about our side.

He wasn't on our side.