Jason Gram B.O.G

[Art Vandelay]

.......for the Bombers.

He destroyed St.Kilda tonight!!

[BigMart]

Hard to bag a bloke who had 30 carlton draughts.......he was better than most actually.....

Some real ? Marks over some senior players

Fisher, gilbert, montagna, goddard, dempster

[kalsaint]

Hard to bag a bloke who had 30 carlton draughts.......he was better than most actually.....

Some real ? Marks over some senior players

Fisher, gilbert, montagna, goddard, dempster

Sometimes having lots of possession doesn't make you an effective player.

[Sainternist]

The Norm Smith Medal in reverse.

[BigMart]

Would you rather he got less of the ball......if he's got it.....jobe watson hasen't....that's one thing...

He is an ordinary kick.....like dempster, gilbert, peake, clarke, ray, jones...

But he played ok......best player list and b&f votes will support that.

[degruch]

Hard to bag a bloke who had 30 carlton draughts.......he was better than most actually.....

Some real ? Marks over some senior players

Fisher, gilbert, montagna, goddard, dempster

Sometimes having lots of possession doesn't make you an effective player.

If he'd given 20 of them to someone else we'd be about 10 goals better off. He's got to go...when the going gets tough, we don't need soft players. Not enough body on from Gilbert again...only plays in patches. Goddard out of form, Dempster should not have been picked.

Smith and Armo were good news though.

[matrix]

he wont go
i like grammy, one of my top ten favs, but bloody hell he shanked plenty

had 33 touches so cant say he didnt bust a gut i spose

dunno what to think

[Stephen Theodore]

Perrsonally didnt think Gram was too bad, butchered a few, but not 30 odd.

Armo and Smith were positives also. Hard to find too many more positives though.

[degruch]

he wont go
i like grammy, one of my top ten favs, but bloody hell he shanked plenty

had 33 touches so cant say he didnt bust a gut i spose

dunno what to think

NDS was getting enough of it prior to his dropping, soft as butter at the time too.

[spert]

Gram not our worst player today- a few more of the experienced players need to have a look in the mirror..or spend less time in front of it.

[BigMart]

His dropping was a farce....scapegoat...

Even to this day, dal has never conceded he deserved to be dropped, his output statistically remained the same......when he returned, just the team was winning.....

[degruch]

His dropping was a farce....scapegoat...

Even to this day, dal has never conceded he deserved to be dropped, his output statistically remained the same......when he returned, just the team was winning.....

He put 200% more effort in, especially at ground level. Prior to that, he was less effective below his knees than Trent Knobel.

[BigMart]

Yes he had finished top 5 in the b&f 5 years in a row....his ground level improved so much he finshed top 5 a couple more times...

I watched some 2005 highlights of dal...he was good....watched some in 2008....he was good.....last couple of weeks, he was good...

Fact is, he's just pretty good....dropping him did a bit .for others, nothing for him....he has got no better, no worse since it

[Thinline]

His dropping was a farce....scapegoat...

Even to this day, dal has never conceded he deserved to be dropped, his output statistically remained the same......when he returned, just the team was winning.....

Time for a new scapegoat then.

[wasaintsfan]

wow and now our loss is grams fault... lol

gram was better then goddard... infact stanley was better then goddard and well he'd go up in the ruck 3 metres away from the contest =\

[BigMart]

No scapegoat needed....plenty of real candidates

[degruch]

No scapegoat needed....plenty of real candidates

Exactly...and they've been real candidates for 3 weeks. Maybe they have got chances left, but can't be too many if they keep this up.

[JohnE]

Can't blame Mini this week....

[Legendary]

If the rest of the side had put in the same EFFORT as Gram tonight, the scoreboard would have read differently.

[wasaintsfan]

If the rest of the side had put in the same EFFORT as Gram tonight, the scoreboard would have read differently.

"like" i keep clickig but it doesnt like the status

[InkerSaint]

Speaking of Facebook:

"Our inability to lead, direct & clear the ball was really disappointing. There weren't too many positives. I'm also disappointed for our supporters" - Ross Lyon.

As for Jason Gram:

CP: 0

He can go back to the twos AFAIAC.

[The darkness]

Dont get me started on Gram....Maybe not our worst player but still makes stupid decisions and turns the ball over through lazy kicking as he does consistently week in week out....A liability with the ball in his hands in the back half. DROP HIM NOW !!

[st_Trav_ofWA]

lets put things into perspective ... Goddard had a stinker but has shown time and time again he can turn on a big game ... Gram has played a great game in the grandfinal loss to Geelong , since that point he has been ordinary at best ... he get pleanty of the ball because lets be honest Essendon knew if he got the ball they would get it right back ... Gram has got to go , send him back to sandy reserves half efforts in tackling for a defender is not on ... Zaharakis (or how ever you spell it) has less then 20 games to his name yet he out bumped out possitioned and out ran Gram every time ...the same happened in the geelong match where the kid on debut out pointed him .. Gram is a senior player yet he is getting beaten by rookies ... not good enough ....

[saintbob]

.......for the Bombers.

He destroyed St.Kilda tonight!!

100% in Agreeance, he has been awful for twelve months!!!!

[st_Trav_ofWA]

If the rest of the side had put in the same EFFORT as Gram tonight, the scoreboard would have read differently.

the bloke is a senior player who has played in 3 grandfinals FFS i would expect more then effort from the guy ... you can hang the effort tag on guys in their first 20 0r 30 games not on a player with the standing of Gram ....