Can we turn Dempster into Hayes?

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AnythingsPossibleSaints wrote:
meher baba wrote:
Spinner wrote:Dempsters foot skills arnt that bad to be honest...
I agree 100%.
+1. He kicks it 55m with little trouble. Kicking is far from his biggest weakness.
Rubbish... Kicking distance has nothing to do with having good foot skills....

He cannot hit a target... He missed every target by foot last week by more than 10 metres, most directly resulting in a Richmond score... His skills were (are) below VFL level...

Kicking is just another of his weaknesses... He is so limited, it is amazing he is still getting a game... Clearly Ross forgets about Sean when he stated he doesn't 'gift games'...

I have to agree with BS from earlier (which doesnt happen often)... If he does not get pushed out this year, and soon, we are shot....


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Post: # 1057948Post Bernard Shakey »

Seems that if Bakes hadn't been shafted by the AFL, we'd have a couple of premierships.


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Bernard Shakey wrote:Seems that if Bakes hadn't been shafted by the AFL, we'd have a couple of premierships.
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Bakes played in all three of the grand finals.


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SainterK wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:Seems that if Bakes hadn't been shafted by the AFL, we'd have a couple of premierships.
?

Bakes played in all three of the grand finals.
Was he match fit last year?


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Post: # 1057979Post desertsaint »

yes we can - but he'll turn back into a pumpkin at the twelth stroke of midnight.


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Post: # 1057988Post bigcarl »

Brings to mind a rather crass quote of Tony Jewell's about the Saints' playing list when he was coach:

''You can't turn s### into strawberry jam.''

Actually, Dempster is a handy player and a bit better than that. Unfortunately he will never be Lenny.


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Post: # 1058004Post bigred »

The day that you can teach someone to put their head over the ball with 100% commitment 100% of the time, such as you get with Lenny, let me know please....

Would be nice to win every flag for the next hundred years.


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Post: # 1058006Post saint6709 »

Sounds pretty unanimous - Dempster has got to go - give a kid a chance to work the outside and hopefully do it with some speed


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Post: # 1058015Post gringo »

Dempster was good preseason, but doesn't look an in and under player. It's Armo or nothing. He needs to take Bakers spot. Jack Steven has the nuggety build but too valuable with his skills around goals. I would see Armo in and under and get my new favourite Will Johnson in to do some of the barrelling work nearer the goals.


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Post: # 1058140Post Megsie »

I have never wriiten on this site before but after reading that
Mr Dempster could be the next LENNY HAYES I was soooo angry
I want to say ARE YOU JOKING ?????? No one can replace Lenny in
2011 as no one has his work rate ,determination or courage!![/quote]


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saintjake wrote:I wouldnt be suprised.
I rate him a little bit.
always just seems to lack confidence for mine
Last week he lacked an ability to catch. Did you notice? Fumbled almost everything.

That REEKS of confidence issues.

But if you're picked, you're good enough. So get over it, Dempster, and DO something!

Harsh, but fair, I reckon.
Lack of confidence or lack of skill? The guy simply can't mark. And he can't run. And he can't do lots of other things he ought to be able to do.

The Dumpster must go.


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Post: # 1058173Post meher baba »

saint6709 wrote:Sounds pretty unanimous - Dempster has got to go - give a kid a chance to work the outside and hopefully do it with some speed
Not unanimous with me.

While Baker is out injured, I reckon Dempster is a must. And I thought he was a reasonable choice to fill in for Clarke in the second half of 2010. I used to hate him getting a game as a third forward ahead of Gwilt and Armo in 2009, but that's long ago. He's in our top 25: if everyone on our list was fit and available, I wouldn't have him in the first team. But there's usually enough players out injured for him to be an obvious first team pick.

But he ain't no inside player....!!


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Post: # 1058310Post SaintWal »

Dempster

Hempster

Hampster

Hamester

Hayester

Hayes

No does not work


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Post: # 1058311Post SainterK »

SaintWal wrote:Dempster

Hempster

Hampster

Hamester

Hayester

Hayes

No does not work
:lol:


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Post: # 1058335Post PJ »

Not unanimous with me.
Nor me....Dempster is required. Below average posts are not.


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Post: # 1058337Post SainterK »

PJ wrote:
Not unanimous with me.
Nor me....Dempster is required. Below average posts are not.
Nor me, and I realise this may come as a surprise to many.


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Post: # 1058340Post PJ »

I realise this may come as a surprise to many.
Nothing surprises on this site but you're confidence is a blessing amongst the negative vitriol.


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Post: # 1058445Post BigMart »

He is not very good...and a woeful kick, can limit an opposition player, but offesively a nothing...

Can't be in the same side as baker....

Last year
Baker, dempster, jones, mcqualter and eddy played in the gf, and ray tagged also.....thats six players who have zero offesive impact...trying to win, more like not wantting to lose by much


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Post: # 1058455Post PJ »

When Baker is out Dempster becomes mandatory. Yes we need more attacking players but I think the balance is getting closer in this weeks team.

I think CJ is the one that is under scrutiny at present - I'm hoping CJ can lift and help Armo and Steven in the packs, they need protection.


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