Can we turn Dempster into Hayes?
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saint6709
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Can we turn Dempster into Hayes?
Dempster is built like an in an under player and certainly lacks the pace of your running outside player - not sure why he thinks he is one? If he can get tough and in and under he might be a revelation - if he continues as an outside runner I'd much rather see one of the kids playing the next 15 - 20 games of the year
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Dempster is not skillful enough.
We know Lenny as hard-nosed midfielder, but he can use the footy as good as anyone on our list, and his lack of pace is made up for by the pace of his brain, finding the right option instinctively.
Dempster is an average footballer and a terrific athlete, similar to Blake, and I think that's all we can expect from him, unfortunately.
We know Lenny as hard-nosed midfielder, but he can use the footy as good as anyone on our list, and his lack of pace is made up for by the pace of his brain, finding the right option instinctively.
Dempster is an average footballer and a terrific athlete, similar to Blake, and I think that's all we can expect from him, unfortunately.
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I assume we're talking Nancye Hayes, one-time star of the Australian musical stage...
The idea of Dempster playing as an in-and-under midfielder gives me the giggles. He might have the endurance, but he is too tall and too inflexible to win much ball in close. End of story.
The idea of Dempster playing as an in-and-under midfielder gives me the giggles. He might have the endurance, but he is too tall and too inflexible to win much ball in close. End of story.
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Last week he lacked an ability to catch. Did you notice? Fumbled almost everything.saintjake wrote:I wouldnt be suprised.
I rate him a little bit.
always just seems to lack confidence for mine
That REEKS of confidence issues.
But if you're picked, you're good enough. So get over it, Dempster, and DO something!
Harsh, but fair, I reckon.
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Yeah he actually kicks it OK. But has never been able to consistently win his own footy.meher baba wrote:I agree 100%. But he can't get his own ball, which would be extremely unusual for a midfielder.Spinner wrote:Dempsters foot skills arnt that bad to be honest...
And I think the OP is taking the proverbial
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I remember the presser he did when he played against Geelong in the finals, he was very aware who he was keeping out of the side, and came across apologetic.
Dempster blossoms when Bakes isn't there, because he probably feels like he owns the role, rather than being concious of Steve?
Dunno, but I agree it appears confidence related.
I thought he had a bad week last week, but it hasn't been the normal of late, and people were quick to give up on him.
Dempster blossoms when Bakes isn't there, because he probably feels like he owns the role, rather than being concious of Steve?
Dunno, but I agree it appears confidence related.
I thought he had a bad week last week, but it hasn't been the normal of late, and people were quick to give up on him.
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Not so sure about that..Bernard Shakey wrote:Sean is very fortunate that he came to the club with the coach.
That relationship is the only thing keeping him going.
The kids must overtake him this year or we are rooted.
Sean is fortunate that Bakes missed nearly a year with injury, then got suspended for 9 weeks, and dropped a balling ball on his toe on his way back.
That is when he played most of his footy for St Kilda.
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Played 19 games in '08 before he did his knee;SainterK wrote:Not so sure about that..Bernard Shakey wrote:Sean is very fortunate that he came to the club with the coach.
That relationship is the only thing keeping him going.
The kids must overtake him this year or we are rooted.
Sean is fortunate that Bakes missed nearly a year with injury, then got suspended for 9 weeks, and dropped a balling ball on his toe on his way back.
That is when he played most of his footy for St Kilda.
Played 8 games in the '09 H & A and then the GF;
14 games last year.
I think most of his games with St Kilda is because Ross likes him, nothing to do with Bakes.
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In 2008 Dempster played 19 games, Bakes only played 2 gamesBernard Shakey wrote:Played 19 games in '08 before he did his knee;SainterK wrote:Not so sure about that..Bernard Shakey wrote:Sean is very fortunate that he came to the club with the coach.
That relationship is the only thing keeping him going.
The kids must overtake him this year or we are rooted.
Sean is fortunate that Bakes missed nearly a year with injury, then got suspended for 9 weeks, and dropped a balling ball on his toe on his way back.
That is when he played most of his footy for St Kilda.
Played 8 games in the '09 H & A and then the GF;
14 games last year.
I think most of his games with St Kilda is because Ross likes him, nothing to do with Bakes.
In 2009 thats not a huge amount
In 2010 Dempster played 15 games, commencing from Rd 13, when you guessed it, Bakes got suspended