Gram - we have lost the hunger

[joffaboy]

on SEN.

- Blokes still thinking about 2 lost GF's
- need to get over it
- hunger to win not there
- RL told the group that there will be an injection of youth (hopefully Stanley, Jack and heyne at least)
- some players are just looking to play out their last year.

Pretty strong stuff.'

However on the past two performances, we wont even make the eight.

Do we have to go backwards this year to have a crack in 2012?

[backit]

I wouldn't like to think we would go backwards but after two rounds we are falling fast and there is no way forward on our current game plans.

[Ralphy]

on SEN.

- Blokes still thinking about 2 lost GF's
- need to get over it
- hunger to win not there
- RL told the group that there will be an injection of youth (hopefully Stanley, Jack and heyne at least)
- some players are just looking to play out their last year.

Pretty strong stuff.'

However on the past two performances, we wont even make the eight.

Do we have to go backwards this year to have a crack in 2012?

wonder who the players are that are looking to play out the last year.

[Marchin' In]

Ross needs to come out and show some balls, players in this team EXPECT to be picked week on week and often do, despite pathetic performances! Put a bit of pressure on the playing group by making them aware of the younger guys pushing up below them (Cripps, Winmar, Stanley, Jack, Heyne e.g.) that want their spots!

[joffaboy]

on SEN.

- Blokes still thinking about 2 lost GF's
- need to get over it
- hunger to win not there
- RL told the group that there will be an injection of youth (hopefully Stanley, Jack and heyne at least)
- some players are just looking to play out their last year.

Pretty strong stuff.'

However on the past two performances, we wont even make the eight.

Do we have to go backwards this year to have a crack in 2012?

wonder who the players are that are looking to play out the last year.

Baker, Blake.

Theres two.

[Middo]

on SEN.

- Blokes still thinking about 2 lost GF's
- need to get over it
- hunger to win not there
- RL told the group that there will be an injection of youth (hopefully Stanley, Jack and heyne at least)
- some players are just looking to play out their last year.

Pretty strong stuff.'

However on the past two performances, we wont even make the eight.

Do we have to go backwards this year to have a crack in 2012?

Gee Gram saying we have lost the hunger , needs to check the mirror.!!

[joffaboy]

on SEN.

- Blokes still thinking about 2 lost GF's
- need to get over it
- hunger to win not there
- RL told the group that there will be an injection of youth (hopefully Stanley, Jack and heyne at least)
- some players are just looking to play out their last year.

Pretty strong stuff.'

However on the past two performances, we wont even make the eight.

Do we have to go backwards this year to have a crack in 2012?

Gee Gram saying we have lost the hunger , needs to check the mirror.!!

he had 24 possessions and was one of our better players.

Gilbert should hang his head in shame, Dal Santo was a waste of space, and peake should never get a game again.

[Solar]

Thats pretty powerful, hope you were one Lyon picked out jason cause you refused to to put your head over the ball or tackle many times tonight and thats non negoitable.

Rubbish football tonight.

[Middo]

on SEN.

- Blokes still thinking about 2 lost GF's
- need to get over it
- hunger to win not there
- RL told the group that there will be an injection of youth (hopefully Stanley, Jack and heyne at least)
- some players are just looking to play out their last year.

Pretty strong stuff.'

However on the past two performances, we wont even make the eight.

Do we have to go backwards this year to have a crack in 2012?

Gee Gram saying we have lost the hunger , needs to check the mirror.!!

he had 24 possessions and was one of our better players.

Gilbert should hang his head in shame, Dal Santo was a waste of space, and peake should never get a game again.

Can have all the possessions in the world when there up and under kicks watch the game.. Yes Gilbert was bad !!

[degruch]

Gram won't make an effort unless it lands on him...right on him. And when it does, he looks genuinely surprised to have the ball! Very odd.

I spoke to a Tiger mate during the week, about Hardwick's bizarre "We can't drop the bad players, because they're good players" comment, and he said "Deledio"...which suddenly made sense. Gram and Gilbert are those players for us. I can't see how they'll get dropped, even though they should.

[Bardon Saint]

gram's comments are damning. Very plausible sadly. Need a shake up to wake up and re-focus. Out hayes inj. in smith, out dempster in cripps, out baker in winmar.

[defacto]

grams comments are spot on.

we need to start looking at players 29+ and immediately dropping their game time unless its hayes, roo or fish (dont remember their age).

blake: we seem to be carrying too many backmen. its gilbert or blake. not both. oh and stop playing them out of position up fwd. gilbert has alot more years left in him. blake is near retirement age. gone.

baker: its dempster or baker. not both. see blake. baker is old and gone.

thats a start.

[SainterK]

Gram said that

Seriously?

5 contested possesions, none in the last.

[plugger66]

Gram said that

Seriously?

5 contested possesions, none in the last.

What he said is 100% right. Doesnt mean he can do it.

[mullet]

Yep well Gram didnt look too bloody hungry to bend over and get the ball when it was in our forward line in the last quarter. Hate to say it but he squibbed it. Mirror time grammie

[degruch]

grams comments are spot on.

we need to start looking at players 29+ and immediately dropping their game time unless its hayes, roo or fish (dont remember their age).

blake: we seem to be carrying too many backmen. its gilbert or blake. not both. oh and stop playing them out of position up fwd. gilbert has alot more years left in him. blake is near retirement age. gone.

baker: its dempster or baker. not both. see blake. baker is old and gone.

thats a start.

They're spot on...for Gram. He's the one that needs to extract a digit. Baker or Dempster? Neither in the shortish term. Both have to go, Baker due to age, Dempster due to ability.

[joffaboy]

Yep well Gram didnt look too bloody hungry to bend over and get the ball when it was in our forward line in the last quarter. Hate to say it but he squibbed it. Mirror time grammie

Well, he was telling it like it is. he has never been a tough in and under player, maybe he has also lost the hunger.

instead of attacking Gram look at the comment that RL will be injecting youth into the team.

isn't that what everyone has been crying out for?

[chook23]

Thats pretty powerful, hope you were one Lyon picked out jason cause you refused to to put your head over the ball or tackle many times tonight and thats non negoitable.

Rubbish football tonight.

spot on

he picks and choses when to go......

hate to say it but a couple of times REALLY DID squib his turn ....to go

almost deliberately avoiding his turn go

[mullet]

Yep well Gram didnt look too bloody hungry to bend over and get the ball when it was in our forward line in the last quarter. Hate to say it but he squibbed it. Mirror time grammie

Well, he was telling it like it is. he has never been a tough in and under player, maybe he has also lost the hunger.

instead of attacking Gram look at the comment that RL will be injecting youth into the team.

isn't that what everyone has been crying out for?

He didnt need to be tough or in and under just needed to attack the ball and he didnt.

[defacto]

funny thing is this just might the game that is the start of our next challenge.

i have a feeling that hayes is gone for a large part of this season.

i think at the end of this year the retirements will be:
- hayes
- gardiner
- baker

next year:
- blake
- milne

if gram keeps the same consistancy then he's trade/delist. same for peake. ray/dempster/clarke will be ok.

[noob]

the reason theres no hunger is because the team haven't found ways to improve. when you keep the same team in without any fresh faces or energy your not going to get anyway near close to success.

[Teflon]

Pot kettle black from Gram.

Time and again Ive seen soft 1 arm attempts at tackles and tonight in the fwd line when he had the chance to go.....he squibbed it allright.

Has to join Baker, Blake on the outside from now. These guys are our "Obree, Lockyers, Medhurst's"........decision time Ross....show some balls.

[degruch]

Pot kettle black from Gram.

Time and again Ive seen soft 1 arm attempts at tackles and tonight in the fwd line when he had the chance to go.....he squibbed it allright.

Has to join Baker, Blake on the outside from now. These guys are our "Obree, Lockyers, Medhurst's"........decision time Ross....show some balls.

You may be right, but who are our Sidebottom's, Beam's, Dawes'?

[SainterK]

Pot kettle black from Gram.

Time and again Ive seen soft 1 arm attempts at tackles and tonight in the fwd line when he had the chance to go.....he squibbed it allright.

Has to join Baker, Blake on the outside from now. These guys are our "Obree, Lockyers, Medhurst's"........decision time Ross....show some balls.

You may be right, but who are our Sidebottom's, Beam's, Dawes'?

Dunno, but I'd be lying if I'm not a little excited at the prospect of finding out.

[degruch]

Pot kettle black from Gram.

Time and again Ive seen soft 1 arm attempts at tackles and tonight in the fwd line when he had the chance to go.....he squibbed it allright.

Has to join Baker, Blake on the outside from now. These guys are our "Obree, Lockyers, Medhurst's"........decision time Ross....show some balls.

You may be right, but who are our Sidebottom's, Beam's, Dawes'?

Dunno, but I'd be lying if I'm not a little excited at the prospect of finding out.

Next week is the wrong time to experiment.