Par for Daniel Archer

bergholt · Post: # 1054423Post **bergholt** » Fri 01 Apr 2011 3:13pm

First game for the kid tonight - what's an acceptable game for him? What's a good game?

I reckon acceptable is:

8 touches, 4 marks, 12 hitouts, 1 scoring shot

Good would be:

10-12 touches, 5-6 marks, 15 hitouts, 1 goal

(That's about equal to McEvoy's game last week.)

Whaddya reckon? Is it fair to expect the game given above?

Moccha · Post: # 1054424Post **Moccha** » Fri 01 Apr 2011 3:13pm

2 goals, 5 kicks and 3 marks is a pass

saintbrat · Post: # 1054426Post **saintbrat** » Fri 01 Apr 2011 3:14pm

1 quarter -
subbed on only when no injuries-
goal
..

Munga · Post: # 1054429Post **Munga** » Fri 01 Apr 2011 3:24pm

8 pos, 6 marks, 8 hitouts, 2 scores and a tackle or two would be a pass.
Then again, it's about effort not so much stats

Dr Spaceman · Fri 01 Apr 2011 3:30pm

Depends on role he's asked to play and game time he's given.

doppler effect · Fri 01 Apr 2011 3:32pm

Should get a goal with his first kick. Just like Michael Rix! Remember him? What a champ

samoht · Post: # 1054436Post **samoht** » Fri 01 Apr 2011 3:35pm

Based on Archer playing a full game as a forward ( he probably wont though).

If he can chase down and tackle a couple of times plus create a path for smaller players and provide them some spillages/crumbing opportunities by contesting 4 marks - and if he can kick 1 goal himself, and be an effective tall decoy to Riewoldt and release him - that would be a great result.

yipper · Post: # 1054437Post **yipper** » Fri 01 Apr 2011 3:37pm

doppler effect wrote:Should get a goal with his first kick. Just like Michael Rix! Remember him? What a champ

Problem with Rix was that he played 10 games before he got his first kick!!!

markp · Post: # 1054440Post **markp** » Fri 01 Apr 2011 3:45pm

No falcons.

clarky449 · Post: # 1054442Post **clarky449** » Fri 01 Apr 2011 3:53pm

yipper wrote:
doppler effect wrote:Should get a goal with his first kick. Just like Michael Rix! Remember him? What a champ
Problem with Rix was that he played 10 games before he got his first kick!!!

He got the Goal in his first game against Sydney in the Wet.

Wrote for Luck · Fri 01 Apr 2011 3:56pm

Maybe a more interesting question is what would he need to do to keep Kosi out of the team?

Quixote · Post: # 1054444Post **Quixote** » Fri 01 Apr 2011 3:57pm

Round 2 Rising Star Nomination. Absolutely nothing less.

BAM! (shhhh) · Fri 01 Apr 2011 3:58pm

It's his first game. Too many unknows to try and generate a statline for him.

Compete willingly, get to as many contests as possible, win a few of them.

Make life miserable for his opponents, don't get caught out of position.

If he does these things, the numbers will look after themselves.

wasaintsfan · Fri 01 Apr 2011 4:04pm

bust open marking packs and creates a few goals. Doesnt need big stats. Aslong as other guys benefit from crumbs

shmic_s · Post: # 1054451Post **shmic_s** » Fri 01 Apr 2011 4:08pm

doppler effect wrote:Should get a goal with his first kick. Just like Michael Rix! Remember him? What a champ

RIX ROX RUX

Armoooo · Post: # 1054469Post **Armoooo** » Fri 01 Apr 2011 4:33pm

If he plays forward I don't see why 3-4 goals isn't doable, this is a team that only has McGuane (dud) and Astbury (future star, but still raw) as their only tall backs... hell on the team sheet they have Connors as CHB...

Having said that, I think he'll be the sub, come on in the last quarter, probably get two or three touches and one shot on goal.

mad saint guy · Fri 01 Apr 2011 4:50pm

A goal, a couple of strong marks, solid defensive pressure and to present a willing target in the forward line is what he needs to do to earn his spot. I think he's definitely capable of doing that. I don't see any point in having him as the sub. Run is what is needs to be injected in the late parts of the game, not an essential part of the team structure.

saintspremiers · Fri 01 Apr 2011 4:54pm

I don't care as long as we win AND kick 10+ goals I'll be happy.

Is that too much to expect???

St Chris · Post: # 1054486Post **St Chris** » Fri 01 Apr 2011 4:59pm

He shouldn't be the sub. I think as the season goes on we will see that big men aren't sub material.

Last week the Swans used Seaby as their sub and he had no influence at all. This week he has been dropped all together.

I think our use of a line breaking player is a better tactic. I'm tipping Gram to be our sub, and Peake to play a full game.

Anyway, back to Archer, I think a couple of marks down forward, a few hitouts, and at least one goal, should see him get another game, especially if Kosi doesn't play at all this weekend, and Stanley struggles again.

Thinline · Post: # 1054488Post **Thinline** » Fri 01 Apr 2011 5:08pm

Five goals. f*** it. Why not?

Eastern · Post: # 1054495Post **Eastern** » Fri 01 Apr 2011 5:31pm

Par score = Being part of a winning team !!

Dr Spaceman · Fri 01 Apr 2011 5:32pm

Thinline wrote:Five goals. f*** it. Why not?

Agree Thinline.

That would put Jack back in his box

baf · Post: # 1054498Post **baf** » Fri 01 Apr 2011 5:36pm

playing a first game player is acceptable well done .i hope there is 1 or 2 more to come this year.

meher baba · Fri 01 Apr 2011 5:46pm

clarky449 wrote:
yipper wrote:
doppler effect wrote:Should get a goal with his first kick. Just like Michael Rix! Remember him? What a champ
Problem with Rix was that he played 10 games before he got his first kick!!!
He got the Goal in his first game against Sydney in the Wet.

And didn't the TV replay show it had whacked the post on the way through?

Dr Spaceman · Fri 01 Apr 2011 5:52pm

clarky449 wrote:
yipper wrote:
doppler effect wrote:Should get a goal with his first kick. Just like Michael Rix! Remember him? What a champ
Problem with Rix was that he played 10 games before he got his first kick!!!
He got the Goal in his first game against Sydney in the Wet.

Remember that game well.

My mate organised grandstand seats

Pity the bloody thing didn't have a roof