Further to this. Am I right in thinking that the two Collingwood players are not going to be charged because the accuser was too drunk and would not make a creditable witness? Even though the third party being a non Collingwood player WAS actually charged?Quixote wrote:satchmo wrote:None of the crap they are dredging up changes the above fact.They prepared a brief of evidence against Milne, but their superior officer decided not to lay charges after advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions that there was no reasonable chance of a conviction.
They weren't going to charge him with rape, they were going to charge him with sexual misconduct, but on the evidence it was clear that they wouldn't get a conviction. The girl got into bed with three other people twice for the purpose of having sex. No evidence is missing, all statements say the pretty much the same thing... She willingly got into bed with them, and no force was used.
So it's completely different to the collingwood rape.
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The point is that while the media are picking out the Saints for every possible sniff of an infraction no matter how innocuous, what are they NOT reporting?meher baba wrote:While i generally share plugger66's view that too many posters on here believe that the media and the footy world are all conspiring against us, perhaps that is the case here to some extent.
The media aren't picking out St Kilda because of who we are, but because of who we are not.
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Spot on, hence the new article about "bad boy Zac", unreal.............GRAMophone wrote:My first thought also was that the timimg of the Milne article is possibly quite orchestrated to reignite the Saints bad boys vibe and deflect from the protected team.
Put the Milne article on the same page as Nixon and effectively increase the bad branding of the Saints
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Yep, picked it in one.Selhurst Saint wrote:Further to this. Am I right in thinking that the two Collingwood players are not going to be charged because the accuser was too drunk and would not make a creditable witness? Even though the third party being a non Collingwood player WAS actually charged?Quixote wrote:satchmo wrote:None of the crap they are dredging up changes the above fact.They prepared a brief of evidence against Milne, but their superior officer decided not to lay charges after advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions that there was no reasonable chance of a conviction.
They weren't going to charge him with rape, they were going to charge him with sexual misconduct, but on the evidence it was clear that they wouldn't get a conviction. The girl got into bed with three other people twice for the purpose of having sex. No evidence is missing, all statements say the pretty much the same thing... She willingly got into bed with them, and no force was used.
So it's completely different to the collingwood rape.
Very valid point in bold
What actually happened? I take it you were there.St Lenny wrote:Yep, picked it in one.Selhurst Saint wrote:Further to this. Am I right in thinking that the two Collingwood players are not going to be charged because the accuser was too drunk and would not make a creditable witness? Even though the third party being a non Collingwood player WAS actually charged?Quixote wrote:satchmo wrote:None of the crap they are dredging up changes the above fact.They prepared a brief of evidence against Milne, but their superior officer decided not to lay charges after advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions that there was no reasonable chance of a conviction.
They weren't going to charge him with rape, they were going to charge him with sexual misconduct, but on the evidence it was clear that they wouldn't get a conviction. The girl got into bed with three other people twice for the purpose of having sex. No evidence is missing, all statements say the pretty much the same thing... She willingly got into bed with them, and no force was used.
So it's completely different to the collingwood rape.
Very valid point in bold
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You should know; you read and believe.plugger66 wrote:What actually happened? I take it you were there.St Lenny wrote:Yep, picked it in one.Selhurst Saint wrote:Further to this. Am I right in thinking that the two Collingwood players are not going to be charged because the accuser was too drunk and would not make a creditable witness? Even though the third party being a non Collingwood player WAS actually charged?Quixote wrote:satchmo wrote:None of the crap they are dredging up changes the above fact.They prepared a brief of evidence against Milne, but their superior officer decided not to lay charges after advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions that there was no reasonable chance of a conviction.
They weren't going to charge him with rape, they were going to charge him with sexual misconduct, but on the evidence it was clear that they wouldn't get a conviction. The girl got into bed with three other people twice for the purpose of having sex. No evidence is missing, all statements say the pretty much the same thing... She willingly got into bed with them, and no force was used.
So it's completely different to the collingwood rape.
Very valid point in bold
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Not even slightly. Just dont choose to think one side is favoured by the law and others arent. Fancy thinking that though.satchmo wrote:You should know; you read and believe.plugger66 wrote:What actually happened? I take it you were there.St Lenny wrote:Yep, picked it in one.Selhurst Saint wrote:Further to this. Am I right in thinking that the two Collingwood players are not going to be charged because the accuser was too drunk and would not make a creditable witness? Even though the third party being a non Collingwood player WAS actually charged?Quixote wrote:satchmo wrote:None of the crap they are dredging up changes the above fact.They prepared a brief of evidence against Milne, but their superior officer decided not to lay charges after advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions that there was no reasonable chance of a conviction.
They weren't going to charge him with rape, they were going to charge him with sexual misconduct, but on the evidence it was clear that they wouldn't get a conviction. The girl got into bed with three other people twice for the purpose of having sex. No evidence is missing, all statements say the pretty much the same thing... She willingly got into bed with them, and no force was used.
So it's completely different to the collingwood rape.
Very valid point in bold
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Both cases thrown out.plugger66 wrote:Not even slightly. Just dont choose to think one side is favoured by the law and others arent. Fancy thinking that though.satchmo wrote:You should know; you read and believe.plugger66 wrote:What actually happened? I take it you were there.St Lenny wrote:Yep, picked it in one.Selhurst Saint wrote:Further to this. Am I right in thinking that the two Collingwood players are not going to be charged because the accuser was too drunk and would not make a creditable witness? Even though the third party being a non Collingwood player WAS actually charged?Quixote wrote:satchmo wrote:None of the crap they are dredging up changes the above fact.They prepared a brief of evidence against Milne, but their superior officer decided not to lay charges after advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions that there was no reasonable chance of a conviction.
They weren't going to charge him with rape, they were going to charge him with sexual misconduct, but on the evidence it was clear that they wouldn't get a conviction. The girl got into bed with three other people twice for the purpose of having sex. No evidence is missing, all statements say the pretty much the same thing... She willingly got into bed with them, and no force was used.
So it's completely different to the collingwood rape.
Very valid point in bold
Which case is the hs still dragging up, even though it's a lot older?
When was the last time that the hs mentioned the collingwood rape?
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Dont know. Cant remember the cops looking into that case though especially as far as a cop trying to stop evidence or conviction. maybe you can tell me. Either way both will have no case to answer eventually.satchmo wrote:Both cases thrown out.plugger66 wrote:Not even slightly. Just dont choose to think one side is favoured by the law and others arent. Fancy thinking that though.satchmo wrote:You should know; you read and believe.plugger66 wrote:What actually happened? I take it you were there.St Lenny wrote:Yep, picked it in one.Selhurst Saint wrote:Further to this. Am I right in thinking that the two Collingwood players are not going to be charged because the accuser was too drunk and would not make a creditable witness? Even though the third party being a non Collingwood player WAS actually charged?Quixote wrote:satchmo wrote:None of the crap they are dredging up changes the above fact.They prepared a brief of evidence against Milne, but their superior officer decided not to lay charges after advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions that there was no reasonable chance of a conviction.
They weren't going to charge him with rape, they were going to charge him with sexual misconduct, but on the evidence it was clear that they wouldn't get a conviction. The girl got into bed with three other people twice for the purpose of having sex. No evidence is missing, all statements say the pretty much the same thing... She willingly got into bed with them, and no force was used.
So it's completely different to the collingwood rape.
Very valid point in bold
Which case is the hs still dragging up, even though it's a lot older?
When was the last time that the hs mentioned the collingwood rape?
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what nice patternsplugger66 wrote:Dont know. Cant remember the cops looking into that case though especially as far as a cop trying to stop evidence or conviction. maybe you can tell me. Either way both will have no case to answer eventually.satchmo wrote:Both cases thrown out.plugger66 wrote:Not even slightly. Just dont choose to think one side is favoured by the law and others arent. Fancy thinking that though.satchmo wrote:You should know; you read and believe.plugger66 wrote:What actually happened? I take it you were there.St Lenny wrote:Yep, picked it in one.Selhurst Saint wrote:Further to this. Am I right in thinking that the two Collingwood players are not going to be charged because the accuser was too drunk and would not make a creditable witness? Even though the third party being a non Collingwood player WAS actually charged?Quixote wrote:satchmo wrote:None of the crap they are dredging up changes the above fact.They prepared a brief of evidence against Milne, but their superior officer decided not to lay charges after advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions that there was no reasonable chance of a conviction.
They weren't going to charge him with rape, they were going to charge him with sexual misconduct, but on the evidence it was clear that they wouldn't get a conviction. The girl got into bed with three other people twice for the purpose of having sex. No evidence is missing, all statements say the pretty much the same thing... She willingly got into bed with them, and no force was used.
So it's completely different to the collingwood rape.
Very valid point in bold
Which case is the hs still dragging up, even though it's a lot older?
When was the last time that the hs mentioned the collingwood rape?
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If I recall correctly that's what happened when Beams and McCarthy got themselves in trouble...
Hey. Probably just coincidence....
Hey. Probably just coincidence....
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f****** gutless and sad.saintspremiers wrote:I hope he is found not guilty again.
I know the righteous ones on here want the truth and justice, but I just want it to go away....
What if it was someone in your family who believed they'd been raped, as a matter of interest? Would you be happy to say "screw truth and justice" and be hoping it would "just go away"?
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f****** gutless and sad & hypothetical.AnythingsPossibleSaints wrote:f****** gutless and sad.saintspremiers wrote:I hope he is found not guilty again.
I know the righteous ones on here want the truth and justice, but I just want it to go away....
What if it was someone in your family who believed they'd been raped, as a matter of interest? Would you be happy to say "screw truth and justice" and be hoping it would "just go away"?
Sad.
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Really? What is sexual misconduct? Never heard of that charge before in my life. It wasn't an AFL investigation it was a police investigation, and he was investigated for rape and had no case to answer in the end. As for the Collingwood allegation. What do you know? I'm tipping you know absolutely nothing other than what you have heard.satchmo wrote:None of the crap they are dredging up changes the above fact.They prepared a brief of evidence against Milne, but their superior officer decided not to lay charges after advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions that there was no reasonable chance of a conviction.
They weren't going to charge him with rape, they were going to charge him with sexual misconduct, but on the evidence it was clear that they wouldn't get a conviction. The girl got into bed with three other people twice for the purpose of having sex. No evidence is missing, all statements say the pretty much the same thing... She willingly got into bed with them, and no force was used.
So it's completely different to the collingwood rape.
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Milne wasn't accused of rape, so it wasn't a rape investigation. There was never a suggestion that force was used. Of course if you read the hs you wouldn't have read that.Moods wrote:Really? What is sexual misconduct? Never heard of that charge before in my life. It wasn't an AFL investigation it was a police investigation, and he was investigated for rape and had no case to answer in the end. As for the Collingwood allegation. What do you know? I'm tipping you know absolutely nothing other than what you have heard.satchmo wrote:None of the crap they are dredging up changes the above fact.They prepared a brief of evidence against Milne, but their superior officer decided not to lay charges after advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions that there was no reasonable chance of a conviction.
They weren't going to charge him with rape, they were going to charge him with sexual misconduct, but on the evidence it was clear that they wouldn't get a conviction. The girl got into bed with three other people twice for the purpose of having sex. No evidence is missing, all statements say the pretty much the same thing... She willingly got into bed with them, and no force was used.
So it's completely different to the collingwood rape.
I'm tipping that you need help with your tipping.
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