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Post: # 1032485Post St Lenny »

That is very soft of the courts, she basically gets away with what she has done. Facebook need to take responsibility also, for allowing the trash that is on there to continue.

I am sick to death of hearing about her being a child. She needs to take responsibility for her actions like anyone else.


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Post: # 1032491Post suss »

St Lenny wrote:That is very soft of the courts, she basically gets away with what she has done. Facebook need to take responsibility also, for allowing the trash that is on there to continue.

I am sick to death of hearing about her being a child. She needs to take responsibility for her actions like anyone else.
She hasn't gotten away with it - making her destroy the images is just the first part of a long civil process. The parties have been sent to mediation. If they can't work it out in mediation they'll return to the court at some point next year (assuming that the Saints and Sam want to continue the matter). Hopefully by then the hysteria will have subsided a little.


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I keep hearing how she is just a kid with troubles, let's not be bad to her.
Well remember that young child that was murdered in England by 13 year olds, gee wasn't much pity for them yet they we're much younger and more immature than this girl.
Jessica Watson sailed around the world when she was 16 and took responsibility.
Personally, I think our lawyers have got some facts that will show what a liar she has been and she will get destroyed in the court.
However, if she is willing to admit the truth, destroy the photo's and apologise, I'd be willing to leave it at that with the provido that if she does it again, shr will go to jail, go directly to jail do not pass go do not collect any royalties.
Incidently, I doubt anyone would purchase her story or pictures simply because the legal costs will far out weigh any profit they may make.


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Post: # 1032494Post oneteam »

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/a ... 5975629618

Video of club statement.

THE girl at the centre of St Kilda photo scandal has agreed to hand over all the pictures she has to the court and destroy any other copies in her possession.

IMO , until the club went tough i the media yesterday , she was doing what she liked . then ,after the tough stand, she got lawyers and agreed to destroy the photos.
Sounds like it was the only way to get success, to get it to sink into her head that she can't release the other photos she also has.

not sure what else they were meant to do- after all the club needs to stand up for protecting our players.


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Post: # 1032496Post saintbrat »

is someone going to check the computer?>

there would be ways for her to ensure someone else has them---

edit 10 pm newws
it is believed she is saying on twitter. she doesn't believe she has to remove other photos she has-
just those taken from Sam's laptop
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Post: # 1032498Post Ralphy »

saintbrat wrote:is someone going to check the computer?>

there would be ways for her to ensure someone else has them---
she wouldnt give them up this easy so yes someone else has them,


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Post: # 1032501Post suss »

saintbrat wrote:is someone going to check the computer?>

there would be ways for her to ensure someone else has them---
There's no reaslitic way of police it but more importantly, if she did post any further material from SG's laptop, she will have disobeyed a directive of the court. It would be incredibly stupid to do so and if she did, she would enter a serious world of legal pain.

My best guess is that she's posted everything she had - at least everthing of an embarrassing nature. In a way it's too little too late, but it's worth getting the directive just in case she had more up her sleeve. At least it keeps any other personal (but less explicit) material that she stole out of the public eye.


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any sign of any photos NOt posted by a footballer or media will now be suspect I would think.


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Post: # 1032504Post chook23 »

Just Gilberts photos oredered to be destroyed?

Any others she may have also?

I am presuming it is just the saints players at this time.


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Post: # 1032505Post Mr Magic »

From her twitter account
Is done. Ciao for now twitter.. y'all f***ed me over.
less than a minute ago via web .

I have not been ordered to delete the photo's, nor have I been proven to have "Stolen" the photo's. Thank-you.
10 minutes ago via web .

Just like to clear up one thing; Nothing has been set in court - Mediation is late Jan, the actual court case will be heard later.. CONT.
11 minutes ago via web .

Good Day :) Now just relaxing eating macca's on elizabeth street! First time im eaten in about 4 days! xx
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From this she either has no idea what happened in court

or worse,
she doesn't care.


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Mr Magic wrote:From her twitter account
Is done. Ciao for now twitter.. y'all f***ed me over.
less than a minute ago via web .

I have not been ordered to delete the photo's, nor have I been proven to have "Stolen" the photo's. Thank-you.
10 minutes ago via web .

Just like to clear up one thing; Nothing has been set in court - Mediation is late Jan, the actual court case will be heard later.. CONT.
11 minutes ago via web .

Good Day :) Now just relaxing eating macca's on elizabeth street! First time im eaten in about 4 days! xx
15 minutes ago via web
From this she either has no idea what happened in court

or worse,
she doesn't care.
she has now blocked her twitter account


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Post: # 1032511Post saintbrat »

chook23 wrote: she has now blocked her twitter account
apart from the 10,000 plus who are friends- or is she likely to edit those too.


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Post: # 1032512Post Dr Spaceman »

I'd like to "meet the parents" of this "little focker"!


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I suspect that one organisation or another eg DHS has arranged for her vast legal team to accompany her to court, so no doubt the Legal Aid bill will be paid courtesy of the taxpayer.

Still, there is every chance the legal team spelled it out quite clearly what it would mean to defy the court orders.

Now let's hope a proper legal guardian will be appointed to take control of her in every way, I have doubts about where the money for clothes and flights is being sourced, and I don't mean the 27 year old who took her to Sydney nor her parents who from Ross Levin have given up as well.

By the way I loved the more demure court dress but I thought the cross around her neck was a little over done. She can't have found God in the last 24 hours! But the cigarette was ready to be lit once she was out of the view of the cameras. Hope that wasn't happening during the pregnancy.


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ozrulestrace wrote:I suspect that one organisation or another eg DHS has arranged for her vast legal team to accompany her to court, so no doubt the Legal Aid bill will be paid courtesy of the taxpayer.

Still, there is every chance the legal team spelled it out quite clearly what it would mean to defy the court orders.
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Post: # 1032520Post St Ick »

I do wonder if we've done the right thing now. I mean, Dal and Zac seem to have stayed quiet, and we aren't really talking about them. Saints and Roo spoke up, and this is still in the news.

I know if we did nothing, we'd be letting her win and who knows, more photos may have been released - but apart from a bit of embarrassment, I'm sure we'd all have moved on after xmas. Don't we teach our kids that when we are bullied, we ignore it as we don't want to go down to their level?

I just feel as though we are playing her games now, and somehow, we now look like the bad guy for attacking this 'poor innocent little schoolgirl' as some people seem to have labelled this 'thing'.

Bad PR man, bad PR, can't we just have a positive bloody christmas! I'd be more than happy if we were NEVER ever mentioned in the media in 2011 - this past year has been enough for an entire decade!


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Post: # 1032521Post stinger »

saintspremiers wrote:
PakenhamSaint wrote:
Eastern wrote:The Court hearing poses a whole NEW Dilema for the boys and the club. Are the Media now allowed to Name & Shame her thus adding more fuel to the Fire of this story? Im believe that the longer this drags on the more damage it is doing to our "Brand" !!
I don't think they can. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think she is still classed as a minor.
Well there is a court preceding Gilbert vs Duthie, so they can report that, I guess they can't say what it's about??

they are civil proceedings so can be published


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Post: # 1032523Post ozrulestrace »

saintbrat wrote:
ozrulestrace wrote:I suspect that one organisation or another eg DHS has arranged for her vast legal team to accompany her to court, so no doubt the Legal Aid bill will be paid courtesy of the taxpayer.

Still, there is every chance the legal team spelled it out quite clearly what it would mean to defy the court orders.
was one lawyer trying really hard to look older :)
That's why I'm thinking Legal Aid and a social worker as well.

Still if they do their job and get her to think about her actions, good luck to them


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St Ick wrote:I do wonder if we've done the right thing now. I mean, Dal and Zac seem to have stayed quiet, and we aren't really talking about them. Saints and Roo spoke up, and this is still in the news.

I would assume Saints and Roo stood up as leaders of the club - had it not been Roo I'm sure he would have represented those victimised.

I know if we did nothing, we'd be letting her win and who knows, more photos may have been released - but apart from a bit of embarrassment, I'm sure we'd all have moved on after xmas. Don't we teach our kids that when we are bullied, we ignore it as we don't want to go down to their level?

Yeah son, ignore it and the bullies will go away, don't stoop to their level. Like f***. Serious? FFS I copped some bullying in my workplace when I was 44 years old - yes 44 years old and had been in my job for 24 years - from a person who was revered as one who could do no wrong - stood up to the pricks and one resigned, other two transferred. But obviously I should have ignored it and it would go away if I sat in a corner pretending it wasn't happening and don't lower myself to their level...is that what we're teaching our kids?

I just feel as though we are playing her games now, and somehow, we now look like the bad guy for attacking this 'poor innocent little schoolgirl' as some people seem to have labelled this 'thing'.

We've looked strong, she's looked like the lying little tramp she is.

Bad PR man, bad PR, can't we just have a positive bloody christmas! I'd be more than happy if we were NEVER ever mentioned in the media in 2011 - this past year has been enough for an entire decade!
Sorry, my two cents worth.


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Post: # 1032530Post Iceman234 »

Mr Magic wrote:From her twitter account
Is done. Ciao for now twitter.. y'all f***ed me over.
less than a minute ago via web .

I have not been ordered to delete the photo's, nor have I been proven to have "Stolen" the photo's. Thank-you.
10 minutes ago via web .

Just like to clear up one thing; Nothing has been set in court - Mediation is late Jan, the actual court case will be heard later.. CONT.
11 minutes ago via web .

Good Day :) Now just relaxing eating macca's on elizabeth street! First time im eaten in about 4 days! xx 15 minutes ago via web
From this she either has no idea what happened in court

or worse,
she doesn't care.
Somewhat Freudian???


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Post: # 1032531Post St Ick »

Iceman234 wrote:
St Ick wrote:I do wonder if we've done the right thing now. I mean, Dal and Zac seem to have stayed quiet, and we aren't really talking about them. Saints and Roo spoke up, and this is still in the news.

I would assume Saints and Roo stood up as leaders of the club - had it not been Roo I'm sure he would have represented those victimised.

I know if we did nothing, we'd be letting her win and who knows, more photos may have been released - but apart from a bit of embarrassment, I'm sure we'd all have moved on after xmas. Don't we teach our kids that when we are bullied, we ignore it as we don't want to go down to their level?

Yeah son, ignore it and the bullies will go away, don't stoop to their level. Like f***. Serious? FFS I copped some bullying in my workplace when I was 44 years old - yes 44 years old and had been in my job for 24 years - from a person who was revered as one who could do no wrong - stood up to the pricks and one resigned, other two transferred. But obviously I should have ignored it and it would go away if I sat in a corner pretending it wasn't happening and don't lower myself to their level...is that what we're teaching our kids?

I just feel as though we are playing her games now, and somehow, we now look like the bad guy for attacking this 'poor innocent little schoolgirl' as some people seem to have labelled this 'thing'.

We've looked strong, she's looked like the lying little tramp she is.

Bad PR man, bad PR, can't we just have a positive bloody christmas! I'd be more than happy if we were NEVER ever mentioned in the media in 2011 - this past year has been enough for an entire decade!
Sorry, my two cents worth.
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Is there an age limit on who can be tattooed in Victoria? !!


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Eastern wrote:Is there an age limit on who can be tattooed in Victoria? !!
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Post: # 1032534Post Iceman234 »

Cheers St Ick, we're probably all on hair triggers in this willy season.


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Post: # 1032544Post MCG-Unit »

Ice Wolf wrote: Everyone knows that boys mature faster than girls ... wait, i might have that the wrong way around :wink:
Yes I think you've got it the wrong way round - well I've always thought that anyway - generally speaking :wink:


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