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Post: # 1032172Post Dr Spaceman »

We're talking tough now - GOOD!!!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/n ... 5975216067

"UPDATE 12.20pm: A TEENAGE girl and the St Kilda players embroiled in the the AFL nude photos scandal were no shows at a Federal court hearing this morning, but the Saints' vice president was breathing fire once it was over........"


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Post: # 1032175Post philtee »

Nice turn of phrase from Gilbert's legal team -
"Gilbert’s counsel, Will Houghton, QC...told the Court..."It appears that (the girl) is exhibiting some defiance to the orders of this court
and whether that is because of her immature years or simply plain stupidity, I simply cannot say.""


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 19612.html


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Post: # 1032177Post The OtherThommo »

The other thought that comes from The Age article is

KACHING!!!

Most of the ones involving mainstream media outlets will be settled, but much money will change hands. Payday coming boys.


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Post: # 1032180Post Enrico_Misso »

Perhaps The SL.UT was delayed rooting the entire cabin crew and taxi rank?

The whole thing is now very ugly.
Might just as well now initiate a swag of legal actions to get some $ and vengeance.
- against channel 7
- against Facebook/Twitter
- and of course we should sue the panties off Ms SL.UT (though I'm guessing she doesn't wear any for reasons of efficiency)


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Post: # 1032184Post philtee »

Quite right, The Other Thommo.
I ain't no lawyer, but the legal firepower being lined up by the players, the Club and the AFL
(who are surely working together) will be just about impossible for her to defeat.
How much does it cost to get a QC and their team into Court?? $4-5000??
How does a 17 year old from an average family compete with that, or mount an ongoing defence ?
Her smartest move now is damage control - total capitulation - apologies and admissions of regret -
"I'm sorry that I..." and "I now fully realise the implications of my actions"...and "I now realise I have hurt others...",
the aim is to exhibit contrition, otherwise the defamation lawyers will be licking their lips even more.
That's my theory.
But she has proven to be unpredictable, so what do I know.
In this kind of unequal contest, she could try playing "The Castle" defence - one person against the big
bad corporates - and try to get the media on your side. RIP Bud Tingwell !!

As for Channel 7??? Hmmmm...let their legal team talk to our legal team,
and we'll come up with a suitable figure.
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Post: # 1032185Post joffaboy »

Glad to see they are persuing the piece of trash and that they can persue any damages won for 15 years.

Make the stupid b!tch pay until she is in her mid thirties.

There are 40k St.Kilda supporters and many are very very angry.

I hope everyone keeps cool and not take actions into their own hands.

The court is the place to destroy this moron, nowhere else.


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There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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Post: # 1032186Post Mr Magic »

philtee wrote:As for Channel 7??? Hmmmm...let their legal team talk to our legal team,
and we'll come up with a suitable figure.
Quite possibly the Hutchy/Kosi fiasco will be raised by Nixon/Riewoldt?

And if I was Roo/Zac/Dal I would think twice before accepting invitations to appear on programs on a channel that has shown it's true colours towards them.
Certainly bofore a public apology, as public as the embarrasment it casued them.


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Post: # 1032194Post Dr Spaceman »

Enrico_Misso wrote:Perhaps The SL.UT was delayed rooting the entire cabin crew and taxi rank?

The whole thing is now very ugly.
Might just as well now initiate a swag of legal actions to get some $ and vengeance.
- against channel 7
- against Facebook/Twitter
- and of course we should sue the panties off Ms SL.UT (though I'm guessing she doesn't wear any for reasons of efficiency)
Gee with all this facebooking, tweeting, myspacing, ustreaming and form guiding, I don’t know where this chick gets the time to do the stuff she’s best known for.

Fair dinkum, if you were the chosen one for the night you might get a bit peeved playing second fiddle (:wink:) to an iphone and an ipad!


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Post: # 1032196Post AnythingsPossibleSaints »

Enrico_Misso wrote:Perhaps The SL.UT was delayed rooting the entire cabin crew and taxi rank?

The whole thing is now very ugly.
Might just as well now initiate a swag of legal actions to get some $ and vengeance.
- against channel 7
- against Facebook/Twitter
- and of course we should sue the panties off Ms SL.UT (though I'm guessing she doesn't wear any for reasons of efficiency)
Vengeance hey? That's the way. Good to see you showing your true colours here. I guess you're just wanting to do your bit to add to the "ugliness" though. Very mature. Very healthy way to deal with things. Good luck with that.
Isn't that what most on here are ripping into her for? Taking her "vengeance" on what she perceives as our club and some in it having done "wrong" by her? And yet you want to do the exact same thing. Oh the irony.
Some of you seriously need to get a life. She'll get hers, you only need to be concerned with you and maybe doing something healthy with all the rage you seem to have bubbling up inside. Seriously.
Ugly indeed.
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Post: # 1032197Post gringo »

The legal action that has been taken is to scare her more than make money.

Channel Seven will give them a payout (settle out of court- public discreet apology) but no one else will be paying up.

As for Kimmy she is just going to be told not to distribute them and destroy any remaining images.

The court wont come after a teenager without the means to pay and her parents wont be made liable.

The Saints and the players will be more seeking to make a stand over the already distributed images and hope no more come up.

As for gaol time she wont get any thing but a suspended sentence or a community based order and told to refrain from posting anything else.

She would be able to apply for legal aid or a court appointed defence and the court will be sympathetic to her age and legal representation.

It would suit her more to look overwhelmed by the AFL machine as judges are not going to like david and goliath nature of the case.

This is a real grey area of law and wont be an easy case for anyone. Social networking sites are just a vessel and as such are not easy to sue.

She is acting all wikileaks and pretending to be a free speech advocate.
Their only real chance of having her shut down is to have Gilbert report the theft of the images to police who could then charge her with a crime.


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Post: # 1032200Post krabb »

Its actually laughable.

Nick's going to sue chanel 7 for showing a distorted picture of him in the nuddie...lol.

Go into Google Nick...cuz you're there in all your glory.

How many people now have copies of these pictures?

Its unstoppable....unpreventable...and they're spitting in the wind.

The internet is as big as the ocean....and nobody owns one little piece of it.

What about her sueing Gilbert for allegedly having sex with a minor?

Think that couldnt happen?

This is a mess of huge proportions...and it all comes back to footballers acting like overpaid rockstars and encouraging underage groupies into their privacy.

Not one ounce of sympathy from me to any of them for acting like morons.


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Post: # 1032202Post Dr Spaceman »

krabb wrote:Its actually laughable.

Nick's going to sue chanel 7 for showing a distorted picture of him in the nuddie...lol.

Go into Google Nick...cuz you're there in all your glory.

How many people now have copies of these pictures?

Its unstoppable....unpreventable...and they're spitting in the wind.

The internet is as big as the ocean....and nobody owns one little piece of it.

What about her sueing Gilbert for allegedly having sex with a minor?

Think that couldnt happen?

This is a mess of huge proportions...and it all comes back to footballers acting like overpaid rockstars and encouraging underage groupies into their privacy.

Not one ounce of sympathy from me to any of them for acting like morons.
You seem to know a lot about the Gilbo & Kimmie relationship there krabb.

Do tell how it all took place, I'm dying to know :?


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krabb wrote:This is a mess of huge proportions...
overstatement much :roll:

It has been totally blown out of all proportion, however i am amused by people who think it is not OK to seek damages from some scaled back harpy scrubber who has invaded their privacy and attempted to harm their reputation.

Good on you Nick Riewoldt, sue the stupid b!tch for as much as you can get. Bankrupt the harlot for 15 years and make her life hell, all through legal means.

Teach this moron a lesson that will take her years to pay off.


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There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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Post: # 1032205Post stewmac »

having seen the 2 pics on google images this morning ,NIck cannot say he had just got out of bed ,he was posing ! also the Dal Santo one appears to shows him to be winking ,is that a typo :wink:


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Post: # 1032207Post Mr Magic »

krabb wrote:What about her sueing Gilbert for allegedly having sex with a minor?

Think that couldnt happen?

This is a mess of huge proportions...and it all comes back to footballers acting like overpaid rockstars and encouraging underage groupies into their privacy.

Not one ounce of sympathy from me to any of them for acting like morons.
Apparwetnly dhe told him and others whe was 19.
SHe frequented 18+ venues at will.
SHort of demanding to see her birth certificate or cutting off her leg and counting how many rings, how was anybody supposed to know she was 16/17 which btw is apparently not the definition of a minor in Victoria for sexual activity by people other than those in authority positions.
SO there would seem very little likeliehood of her suing Gilbert oer teh sexual activity ewither becasue of her own actions adn secondly the law.

I've seen her photograph taken at games.
I never had the pleasure of raising daughters, only sons, but from what I saw in the photos I would have sworn she wa 20+.
Maybe if I'd been around teenage girls I would have been better able to tell that this heavily made-up, sophisticated looking girl wasn't the 19 years old she claimed she was?

From the outside looking in, she appears to have set out to ensnare a footballer and when he didn't act in the way the fairytale in her head told her he should, she's been on a rampage ever since.

IMO it's no coincidence that there are a 'string of partners' all over town that have had relationships with her over the past 12 months and it's quite possible that she has casued most of the trouble she finds herself currently in.

Not that she thinks she's in 'trouble' - which is a major part of the problem - she' seems so full of false bravado that she's got no real idea of the ramifications to herself and others of what she's been doing.
One only needs to read the nonsense on her twitter page to know that.
Or view the videos she's released where she's finally seen behaving like the young immature adolescent she actually is.


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Post: # 1032211Post AnythingsPossibleSaints »

What about her sueing Gilbert for allegedly having sex with a minor?

"It is an offence in Victoria to sexually penetrate a person under the age of 16 (Crimes Act 1958, s45(1)).": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Oceania

So unless this is mistaken, Gilbo having sex with her was legal, to answer your question, krabb.
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Post: # 1032212Post saintharvs »

AnythingsPossibleSaints wrote:It is an offence in Victoria to sexually penetrate a person under the age of 16 (Crimes Act 1958, s45(1)).
That is true but she was not under the age of 16. Therefore no offence.


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Post: # 1032214Post AnythingsPossibleSaints »

That's what I'm saying. I was answering Krabb's question, but I forgot to quote it, before posting my answer.


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Post: # 1032215Post Dr Spaceman »

AnythingsPossibleSaints wrote:That's what I'm saying. I was answering Krabb's question, but I forgot to quote it, before posting my answer.
Well he still hasn't answered how he knows Gilbo encouraged her rockstar style, minor or not.


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Post: # 1032217Post krabb »

I get my information the same as you do...and i dont assume to know anything.

Work it out....its not rocket science.


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Post: # 1032219Post Dr Spaceman »

krabb wrote:I get my information the same as you do...and i dont assume to know anything.

Work it out....its not rocket science.
No it's not, however on what we've learned to date I would say there's as much chance that she threw herself at him as he used his status to gain entry into her pants.

And if he's single then what's the problem?


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Dr Spaceman wrote:
Enrico_Misso wrote:Perhaps The SL.UT was delayed rooting the entire cabin crew and taxi rank?

The whole thing is now very ugly.
Might just as well now initiate a swag of legal actions to get some $ and vengeance.
- against channel 7
- against Facebook/Twitter
- and of course we should sue the panties off Ms SL.UT (though I'm guessing she doesn't wear any for reasons of efficiency)
Gee with all this facebooking, tweeting, myspacing, ustreaming and form guiding, I don’t know where this chick gets the time to do the stuff she’s best known for.

Fair dinkum, if you were the chosen one for the night you might get a bit peeved playing second fiddle (:wink:) to an iphone and an ipad!
That is GOLD, Dr Spaceman. Very funny!


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Post: # 1032228Post I Love Peter Kiel »

Has the bint arrived at Tullamarine yet?


Timed to catch the 6 o'clock news no doubt.

She'll try to string it into a book and movie deal no doubt.

I feel bad for giving her more publicity.


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I Love Peter Kiel wrote:Has the bint arrived at Tullamarine yet?


Timed to catch the 6 o'clock news no doubt.

She'll try to string it into a book and movie deal no doubt.

I feel bad for giving her more publicity.
According to the twit's latest twit, her flight was cancelled and she's now on a Jetstar flight due in at 8:40pm

She's stuck at the airport for 3 hours - pilots beware!!! :shock: :wink:


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Post: # 1032236Post I Love Peter Kiel »

Oh no..she's missed the news.

Will prbably be on Sports Tonight.

Brad McEwan still presenting...might get a smirk from him.

Remember the great flirting between him and Sandra Sully. She's a fair piece, as sam would say.....


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