Dean Polo!!

savatage · Post: # 1024585Post **savatage** » Sat 20 Nov 2010 5:31pm

sunsaint wrote:
borderbarry wrote:I dont mind Dean Polo as a player. He always seemed to do well against us. I could'nd understand why he was not playing regularly under Hartwig.
I think his game against us was the reason he got picked
It was basically his career best, so obviously stuck in Lyons' mind
yeah we got him as a bottom of the barrell pick, but if true that we are salary capped out, then a 24yr old 56 game player will always cost twice as much as a 18yr old kid

We actually were after him about a year or two after he was drafted to the Tigers. They wouldn't entertain the deal back then - but Polo to St.Kilda was on the cards for quite a while.

saint64 · Post: # 1024681Post **saint64** » Sun 21 Nov 2010 9:10am

I don't think we actually meant to draft him. Someone said "Marco", we said "Polo"- and that was it!

Sainternist · Sun 21 Nov 2010 4:33pm

A mate of mine who is a Tiges fan said he got over 30 possessions in his first game. Said the way he played was reminiscent to Koutoufides.

Perhaps RL can straighten him out and get him to recapture some of the promise he displayed a couple of years back.

Dr Spaceman · Sun 21 Nov 2010 4:42pm

Sainternist wrote:A mate of mine who is a Tiges fan said he got over 30 possessions in his first game. Said the way he played was reminiscent to Koutoufides.

Perhaps RL can straighten him out and get him to recapture some of the promise he displayed a couple of years back.

That's the thing isn't it. I mean he must have some ability.

I don't wan't to pick on Eddy, but guys like him, and we've had a few, are never going to have games where they are B.O.G., or close to it. Sure they can play a role but they never make you sit back and go "wow"!

Whether RL can return Polo to Koutaland of course remains to be seen

gurubob101 · Sun 21 Nov 2010 5:07pm

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/play ... _Polo.html

Pick 20 2004
Best year 2009
Last game in 2010 was against Collingwood and he did ok.
Out of favour with Hardwick but then so was Tuck...

An experienced inside mid at Pick 103... and lord knows we need some depth in the middle of the park... not a bad pick up IMO.

Moccha · Post: # 1024790Post **Moccha** » Sun 21 Nov 2010 6:04pm

gurubob101 wrote:http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/play ... _Polo.html

Pick 20 2004
Best year 2009
Last game in 2010 was against Collingwood and he did ok.
Out of favour with Hardwick but then so was Tuck...

An experienced inside mid at Pick 103... and lord knows we need some depth in the middle of the park... not a bad pick up IMO.

What does that say about Hardwick?

Tuck was just about out the door and now he's one of their prime movers

SainterK · Post: # 1024795Post **SainterK** » Sun 21 Nov 2010 6:13pm

Well he was a naughty boy, perhaps the happenings this year woke him up a bit...seemed to have convinced Ross he wants another chance.

Moccha · Post: # 1024802Post **Moccha** » Sun 21 Nov 2010 6:38pm

SainterK wrote:Well he was a naughty boy, perhaps the happenings this year woke him up a bit...seemed to have convinced Ross he wants another chance.

what did he get up to?

Dr Spaceman · Sun 21 Nov 2010 7:02pm

Moccha wrote:
SainterK wrote:Well he was a naughty boy, perhaps the happenings this year woke him up a bit...seemed to have convinced Ross he wants another chance.
what did he get up to?

Well he was involved in that "boozy night" in Sydney early in the year, along with Cousins, Connors & McGuane, but there may be more.

skeptic · Post: # 1024820Post **skeptic** » Sun 21 Nov 2010 8:43pm

IIRC

weren't we close to trading for him 3-4 years ago in exchange for Troy Schwarze?

saintbrat · Sun 21 Nov 2010 11:01pm

I wonder if Nick will take him along to the polo over the Summer

SainterK · Post: # 1024859Post **SainterK** » Sun 21 Nov 2010 11:55pm

Dr Spaceman wrote:
Moccha wrote:
SainterK wrote:Well he was a naughty boy, perhaps the happenings this year woke him up a bit...seemed to have convinced Ross he wants another chance.
what did he get up to?
Well he was involved in that "boozy night" in Sydney early in the year, along with Cousins, Connors & McGuane, but there may be more.

No that is what I was referring to Doc, got suspended for a week, but seemed to fall out of favour.

lewdogs · Post: # 1024864Post **lewdogs** » Mon 22 Nov 2010 2:10am

Interested to see that Polo has adveraged 16 possessions a game in his career. I mean, Lyon would happy with that at St Kilda as long as its efficient. I think we're looking for ball-winners, which is what we need (as opposed to the likes of Eddy, McQualter, who genearlly average 9 or so possessions). Hopefully Polo can improve his efficiency and become a solid contributor to our first team.

I think this is why Eddy was de-listed - he can't win the ball, and a player like that is useless in todays game.

All part of becoming a better (and more attacking) side all over the park.

bergholt · Post: # 1024870Post **bergholt** » Mon 22 Nov 2010 8:21am

lewdogs wrote:(as opposed to the likes of Eddy, McQualter, who genearlly average 9 or so possessions)

nah. mcqualter's averaged 14 and 13 the last two years. eddy's averaged 11 for his entire career. i agree that neither get it enough, but they're not as bad as you make out.

BAM! (shhhh) · Mon 22 Nov 2010 10:57am

bergholt wrote:
lewdogs wrote:(as opposed to the likes of Eddy, McQualter, who genearlly average 9 or so possessions)
nah. mcqualter's averaged 14 and 13 the last two years. eddy's averaged 11 for his entire career. i agree that neither get it enough, but they're not as bad as you make out.

It amazes me that here we are in the age of google and people can't be bothered to get their numbers right.

The idea of being happy with 16 from a "ball-winner" has me stumped too. In the forward line at least there's the excuse of "feast or famine", where you need the game to be coming to you. If you're on the ball in the middle, 16 touches a game and a single tackle is lacklustre to say the least.

Cheap acquisition and all... but I'd see Polo as having quite a bit to do to be more than a depth option behind guys who aren't in the 22.

Furphy · Post: # 1025038Post **Furphy** » Mon 22 Nov 2010 4:07pm

Reminds me of a certain Irish guy we got from Brisbane a while ago, the outcome will probably be the same. But hey, nothing ventured...

stinger · Post: # 1025041Post **stinger** » Mon 22 Nov 2010 4:09pm

BAM! (shhhh) wrote:
bergholt wrote:
lewdogs wrote:(as opposed to the likes of Eddy, McQualter, who genearlly average 9 or so possessions)
nah. mcqualter's averaged 14 and 13 the last two years. eddy's averaged 11 for his entire career. i agree that neither get it enough, but they're not as bad as you make out.
It amazes me that here we are in the age of google and people can't be bothered to get their numbers right.

The idea of being happy with 16 from a "ball-winner" has me stumped too. In the forward line at least there's the excuse of "feast or famine", where you need the game to be coming to you. If you're on the ball in the middle, 16 touches a game and a single tackle is lacklustre to say the least.

Cheap acquisition and all... but I'd see Polo as having quite a bit to do to be more than a depth option behind guys who aren't in the 22.

you need guys who average in the 20's ...not teens....

Saint4Eva · Post: # 1027250Post **Saint4Eva** » Fri 03 Dec 2010 9:14am

IMO he will have more impact than Eddy so why not pick him if he come cheap?

avid · Post: # 1027371Post **avid** » Sat 04 Dec 2010 2:43am

skeptic wrote:IIRC

weren't we close to trading for him 3-4 years ago in exchange for Troy Schwarze?

I think I remember in a phantom draft (ie in 2004?) that St Kilda was expressing an interest in drafting him.
(With that, I think I was half bonding with him!
So I'm sort of 1/4 interested now!)

Con Gorozidis · Sat 04 Dec 2010 5:58am

saint64 wrote:I don't think we actually meant to draft him. Someone said "Marco", we said "Polo"- and that was it!

genuine funny

no idea about this dude.
just know he has a cool name and we got him for nothing.

in the big picture - across the afl - over many years - its funny how some guys have say one good game in twenty and gets dumped by his club the team that was the one often recruit them. just human nature for sure - but not that professional. im just talking in general by the way.

either way i dont mind guys like this with late pics. just use ur early pics on kids please!

Con Gorozidis · Sat 04 Dec 2010 5:58am

Saint4Eva wrote:IMO he will have more impact than Eddy so why not pick him if he come cheap?

+ 1. yep. thats a straight fact.

Con Gorozidis · Sat 04 Dec 2010 6:03am

stinger wrote:
BAM! (shhhh) wrote:
bergholt wrote:
lewdogs wrote:(as opposed to the likes of Eddy, McQualter, who genearlly average 9 or so possessions)
nah. mcqualter's averaged 14 and 13 the last two years. eddy's averaged 11 for his entire career. i agree that neither get it enough, but they're not as bad as you make out.
It amazes me that here we are in the age of google and people can't be bothered to get their numbers right.

The idea of being happy with 16 from a "ball-winner" has me stumped too. In the forward line at least there's the excuse of "feast or famine", where you need the game to be coming to you. If you're on the ball in the middle, 16 touches a game and a single tackle is lacklustre to say the least.

Cheap acquisition and all... but I'd see Polo as having quite a bit to do to be more than a depth option behind guys who aren't in the 22.
you need guys who average in the 20's ...not teens....

i dont want to go back to slating players but in 2010 we continually played dudes averaging in the 0's. somehow we justified it as a "role playing". but outside an s & m club i dont go in for role playing.

we nearly won the whole thing despite these guys not because of them.

rodgerfox · Post: # 1027383Post **rodgerfox** » Sat 04 Dec 2010 8:38am

TwoTowers wrote:Always had time for Polo. Was a highly rated youngster. Ross can shape him.

Shape him into what?

I haven't seen him change any reject that he's recruited. Every reject has arrived with flaws, and those flaws still exist as bad as ever. Even players on the list when Lyon arrived, haven't had their flaws fixed or shaped.

What makes you think 'Ross can shape him'?

joffaboy · Post: # 1027399Post **joffaboy** » Sat 04 Dec 2010 10:41am

rodgerfox wrote:
TwoTowers wrote:Always had time for Polo. Was a highly rated youngster. Ross can shape him.
Shape him into what?

I haven't seen him change any reject that he's recruited. Every reject has arrived with flaws, and those flaws still exist as bad as ever. Even players on the list when Lyon arrived, haven't had their flaws fixed or shaped.

What makes you think 'Ross can shape him'?

Every player has flaws RF. Maybe RL can instill a work ethic that is missing.

rodgerfox · Sat 04 Dec 2010 11:48am

joffaboy wrote: Every player has flaws RF. Maybe RL can instill a work ethic that is missing.

Sure, the question was in relation to the statement that 'Ross can shape him'.

I haven't seen him shape anyone - particularly his rejects. So I was just curious as to why the poster thought he could do it with Polo.