Albert Proud

[evertonfc]

Delisted today by the Lions. Incredibly talented junior who had many personal issues that the Lions found difficult to deal with.

Here's the breakdown:

Pros:
Played five of the Lions last six matches in 2010.
Immense talent.
Byron Pickett-clone.
Would be re-united with family in Melbourne (grew up here).
If somebody "can get him right", Andrew Krakouer style, would be a real find.
We're better equipped to handle 'challenging' players

Cons:
May have insurmountable issues.
Has had temper issues.
Needed to leave the club mid-season for personal help.
We're too afraid to take on 'challenging' players.

Before judging one or another, read this.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/bri ... 5899186448

Has made genuine attempts to turn his life around. Though the Lions have decided to part ways.

Not I'm not necessarily saying he would be the best option for the mature rookie spot - there is no doubt he faces enormous issues - but I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of him at AFL level.

Sort of get the feeling our club will have been so scared off by the Lovett fiasco that we'll become uber-obsessed with recruiting/drafting "good characters", even at the expense of superior talent.

[BallBanger]

too slow

[Dr Spaceman]

A couple of names have been thrown up; of players with undoubted ability but with issues.

While most people feel we are well placed to turn these players around, it would only be human nature if the Saints were wary of going down that path given the Lovett experience.

[eppo67]

too slow

You are joking aren't you.

[evertonfc]

A couple of names have been thrown up; of players with undoubted ability but with issues.

While most people feel we are well placed to turn these players around, it would only be human nature if the Saints were wary of going down that path given the Lovett experience.

Absolutely.

I don't see us going down the path this year, either.

I suppose a mature aged rookie spot is a lot different to giving up pick 16 and a gigantic salary. The risk is very, very small by comparison. And I don't think he'll exactly be heading out for bonding sessions with Jason Gram if we're aware of his history.

For example, Jesse Smith retired after we gave him a chance, but was it worth it? Absolutely. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. He was a huge talent but it didn't pay off. Sometimes that happens. On the other hand, sometimes you land Michael Gardiner, Adam Schneider and Stephen Milne, all of whom were considered shaky off-field propositions when we grabbed them from other clubs.

The mature rookie spot is open until very late. I wouldn't mind giving Proud a crack at pre-season training and seeing how badly he wanted that spot. No more.

[#1GILL]

too slow

He's lightning!

[evertonfc]

too slow

He's lightning!

Carrying a bit too much condition for my liking. Needs to lose at least five - probably 10kg - to get his full-throttle speed back.

[#1GILL]

too slow

He's lightning!

Carrying a bit too much condition for my liking. Needs to lose at least five - probably 10kg - to get his full-throttle speed back.

Yeah, he is overweight. But I still remember his debut game in the NAB Cup. He played very well - serious leg speed.

[marksnsparks]

FFS, has this new place at Seaford got a Betty Ford wing?

Seriously, are we so desperate that we have to consider every bit of flotsam and jetsam farted out of the arse of other clubs?

We were one bounce away, panic not!

[Enrico_Misso]

No more basketcases !

[SainterK]

As I said on other thread, someone on bigfooty said Ross was seen having coffee with Chris Johnson yesterday.

Perhaps Harvey is having some input, he is still quite young and has great footskills....something we do need.

[oakleighboy]

About as skillful as Kosi

[Dr Spaceman]

About as skillful as Kosi

How can a penis use a keyboard?

[evertonfc]

Seriously, are we so desperate that we have to consider every bit of flotsam and jetsam farted out of the arse of other clubs

Agree - delist Milne, Dawson, Gram, Gardiner, Schneider and Ray immediately.

And that Gehrig nut-job, well, I can see why West Coast got rid of him!

I think we should even have a cantera policy - no player can play for us unless he was drafted by us first.

[BackFromUSA]

Chris Johnson would be a better fit for us. Good foot skills off half back and releases Gilbert forward.

[evertonfc]

Chris Johnson would be a better fit for us. Good foot skills off half back and releases Gilbert forward.

Does he get enough footy? More than Proud I know, but he's been in the system a lot longer.

Potential mature rookie, for sure.

Interesting listening: http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/Audio ... -Blue/1276

[SainterK]

Chris Johnson would be a better fit for us. Good foot skills off half back and releases Gilbert forward.

Does he get enough footy? More than Proud I know, but he's been in the system a lot longer.

Potential mature rookie, for sure.

Interesting listening: http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/Audio ... -Blue/1276

I had a read of the Carlton boards, and they tended to think he was starting to show signs of improvement and were a little surprised at his delisting. They also indicated he has potential as a midfielder....

Great foot skills, but soft was the overriding sentiment.

If Ross was having coffee as rumoured, perhaps Harvey/Ross could see him in the midfield rather than defence?

[kosifantutti23]

If somebody "can get him right", Andrew Krakouer style, would be a real find.

Who got Andrew Krakouer right?

[mad saint guy]

Definitely my pick of the delistees. Serious talent, sounds like a change of surroundings and some solid guidance could be what he needs.

[matrix]

FFS, has this new place at Seaford got a Betty Ford wing?

Seriously, are we so desperate that we have to consider every bit of flotsam and jetsam farted out of the arse of other clubs?

We were one bounce away, panic not!

flotsam

farted out of other clubs ass

[Con Gorozidis]

i know nothing about this guy. but remember the conchord fallacy. current decisions should not be made on past ones. assess current facts. forget lovett. hes history. judge this kid on current facts - whatever they are (and f*cked if i know).
judge him on his own merits (or otherwise).

[Con Gorozidis]

FFS, has this new place at Seaford got a Betty Ford wing?

Seriously, are we so desperate that we have to consider every bit of flotsam and jetsam farted out of the arse of other clubs?

We were one bounce away, panic not!

flotsam

farted out of other clubs ass

yeah lke chris judd was farted from west coast. so ray, schneids, milney, zac, gardner, gram etc are all rubbish.

[plugger66]

Lets just him. I have now realised the Saints list is 465 and we have a salary cap of 65 million. Pity the only good players were already on our list.

[bigcarl]

Get him.

[skeptic]

he was one of my... we should have got him if possible picks the year he was drafted

hasn't been particularly brilliant since drafting but i reckon I'd take him as a mature rookie