SEAFORD CENTRE ??? !!
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Linton St means something to many of us here and while it might be time to move on, show some god damn respect and take a dump in your own backyard sunchine state boy.Stephen Theodore wrote:Legendary wrote:
Moorabbin means SFA to me.
It's worth less than a New Zealand coin in a vending machine.
I never watched a football game there, I've been there twice to watch training (GF training), I've never been to the shop, never played pokies there and never went to a social function there.
To me, Moorabbin is the biggest dump in the world.
It's falling down, it's archaic, it's a heap of crap in a semi-industrial suburb surrounded by old people and a bowling green.
The faster we get out of Moorabbin the better.
I can't believe how short sighted most people on here are. You must be the sort of people in charge of the State Government and planning in Victoria.
Where would we have been if Drake and co. had been short sighted in the 1960's?
Up the Maribyrnong with no paddle.
Seaford is not about the next five years and pandering to the old codgers like my dad who remember the "good old days" of standing on cans at Moorabbin.
Seaford is not about some crap of "honouring" the past, or being "convenient" for our wealthy players who currently live in Brighton.
Seaford is about the next 30, 40 and 50 years. Seaford is about a time in the next two generations when Melbourne suburbia stretches from the CBD all the way down to Frankston.
When you won't be able to buy a house within 10kms of Port Phillip for under $5 million dollars.
When every bayside area around Carrum, Aspendale, Seaford and Frankston is upper middle class.
When "Melbourne2030" has Frankston and Dandenong as the two MAJOR centres of service, industry and WORK in this state, and many affulent people will want to live NEAR their workplaces in these areas.
Seaford is about establishing in a GROWING area with young families, who will continue having kids, continue buying land and accumulating wealth and improving the quality of services and aesthetics in their area.
Seaford is about this club developing a facility of excellence, with room to expand for the future. It is about giving the club a base from which to build, providing the players with THE best and having everything that we need in the one location.
Gone are the days of making history at a place. You now have "training venues" and highly paid professional players.
If you are still stuck back in the 1960's and yearn for some antiquated, Jurassic establishment which fulfills your short-sighted desire to be comforted by history, then continue to bag Seaford.
Continue to show your ignorance and inability to envisage something long-term and strategically successful that the Saints have done.
Put away your slippers and your cardigans and crawl back in bed. I am part of the generation of supporters that will carry this club financially and emotionally for the next 50 years, and Seaford is a great idea.
It gives us the best facility to win a flag.
At the end of the day, that's what counts.
Enjoyed the read, Legendary. I also believe we must look at the big picture, even if its a bit difficult to see at the moment.
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Well according to legendary, Carrum Downs is destined become the next Monte Carlo. He has great confidence is the Australian economic miracle.
carrum downs now
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carrum downs now
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Gee the Patterson River Marina has really taken off since I was last thereCon Gorozidis wrote:Well according to legendary, Carrum Downs is destined become the next Monte Carlo. He has great confidence is the Australian economic miracle.
carrum downs now
http://resources3.news.com.au/images/20 ... -crash.jpg
carrum downs in the legendary future [/img]
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.... some plastic sheeting.Dr Spaceman wrote:Ahhh, dab of paintChicagoSaint wrote:Seaford shall be slightly more modern than Moorabbin C.2008
'hey bob got any more of that plastic sheeting we've got another leak?'
'what do you think i'm bloody made of kid. i've been here 25 years alright, it'll get done when it gets bloody done or when we get around to it and not before now go and clean the bloody toilets the angels are starting to complain.'
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quoted for TRUTH!!SaintPav wrote:Linton St means something to many of us here and while it might be time to move on, show some god damn respect and take a dump in your own backyard sunchine state boy.Stephen Theodore wrote:Legendary wrote:
Moorabbin means SFA to me.
It's worth less than a New Zealand coin in a vending machine.
I never watched a football game there, I've been there twice to watch training (GF training), I've never been to the shop, never played pokies there and never went to a social function there.
To me, Moorabbin is the biggest dump in the world.
It's falling down, it's archaic, it's a heap of crap in a semi-industrial suburb surrounded by old people and a bowling green.
The faster we get out of Moorabbin the better.
I can't believe how short sighted most people on here are. You must be the sort of people in charge of the State Government and planning in Victoria.
Where would we have been if Drake and co. had been short sighted in the 1960's?
Up the Maribyrnong with no paddle.
Seaford is not about the next five years and pandering to the old codgers like my dad who remember the "good old days" of standing on cans at Moorabbin.
Seaford is not about some crap of "honouring" the past, or being "convenient" for our wealthy players who currently live in Brighton.
Seaford is about the next 30, 40 and 50 years. Seaford is about a time in the next two generations when Melbourne suburbia stretches from the CBD all the way down to Frankston.
When you won't be able to buy a house within 10kms of Port Phillip for under $5 million dollars.
When every bayside area around Carrum, Aspendale, Seaford and Frankston is upper middle class.
When "Melbourne2030" has Frankston and Dandenong as the two MAJOR centres of service, industry and WORK in this state, and many affulent people will want to live NEAR their workplaces in these areas.
Seaford is about establishing in a GROWING area with young families, who will continue having kids, continue buying land and accumulating wealth and improving the quality of services and aesthetics in their area.
Seaford is about this club developing a facility of excellence, with room to expand for the future. It is about giving the club a base from which to build, providing the players with THE best and having everything that we need in the one location.
Gone are the days of making history at a place. You now have "training venues" and highly paid professional players.
If you are still stuck back in the 1960's and yearn for some antiquated, Jurassic establishment which fulfills your short-sighted desire to be comforted by history, then continue to bag Seaford.
Continue to show your ignorance and inability to envisage something long-term and strategically successful that the Saints have done.
Put away your slippers and your cardigans and crawl back in bed. I am part of the generation of supporters that will carry this club financially and emotionally for the next 50 years, and Seaford is a great idea.
It gives us the best facility to win a flag.
At the end of the day, that's what counts.
Enjoyed the read, Legendary. I also believe we must look at the big picture, even if its a bit difficult to see at the moment.
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While I can understand some getting upset at Legendary's comments regarding Linton Street, and I have incredibly happy memories of the place myself, I believe the essence of what he has said is spot on.iwantmeseats wrote:quoted for TRUTH!!SaintPav wrote:Linton St means something to many of us here and while it might be time to move on, show some god damn respect and take a dump in your own backyard sunchine state boy.Stephen Theodore wrote:Legendary wrote:
Moorabbin means SFA to me.
It's worth less than a New Zealand coin in a vending machine.
I never watched a football game there, I've been there twice to watch training (GF training), I've never been to the shop, never played pokies there and never went to a social function there.
To me, Moorabbin is the biggest dump in the world.
It's falling down, it's archaic, it's a heap of crap in a semi-industrial suburb surrounded by old people and a bowling green.
The faster we get out of Moorabbin the better.
I can't believe how short sighted most people on here are. You must be the sort of people in charge of the State Government and planning in Victoria.
Where would we have been if Drake and co. had been short sighted in the 1960's?
Up the Maribyrnong with no paddle.
Seaford is not about the next five years and pandering to the old codgers like my dad who remember the "good old days" of standing on cans at Moorabbin.
Seaford is not about some crap of "honouring" the past, or being "convenient" for our wealthy players who currently live in Brighton.
Seaford is about the next 30, 40 and 50 years. Seaford is about a time in the next two generations when Melbourne suburbia stretches from the CBD all the way down to Frankston.
When you won't be able to buy a house within 10kms of Port Phillip for under $5 million dollars.
When every bayside area around Carrum, Aspendale, Seaford and Frankston is upper middle class.
When "Melbourne2030" has Frankston and Dandenong as the two MAJOR centres of service, industry and WORK in this state, and many affulent people will want to live NEAR their workplaces in these areas.
Seaford is about establishing in a GROWING area with young families, who will continue having kids, continue buying land and accumulating wealth and improving the quality of services and aesthetics in their area.
Seaford is about this club developing a facility of excellence, with room to expand for the future. It is about giving the club a base from which to build, providing the players with THE best and having everything that we need in the one location.
Gone are the days of making history at a place. You now have "training venues" and highly paid professional players.
If you are still stuck back in the 1960's and yearn for some antiquated, Jurassic establishment which fulfills your short-sighted desire to be comforted by history, then continue to bag Seaford.
Continue to show your ignorance and inability to envisage something long-term and strategically successful that the Saints have done.
Put away your slippers and your cardigans and crawl back in bed. I am part of the generation of supporters that will carry this club financially and emotionally for the next 50 years, and Seaford is a great idea.
It gives us the best facility to win a flag.
At the end of the day, that's what counts.
Enjoyed the read, Legendary. I also believe we must look at the big picture, even if its a bit difficult to see at the moment.
Moorabbin will always feature fondly in the memories of those of us who grew up with.
I'm not going to dis the place but sadly it's time has passed.
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We still have a contractual agreement with Kingston Council to undertake some of our football activities there.sunsaint wrote:And once agian this is where my confusion lies.Dr Spaceman wrote:I'm not going to dis the place but sadly it's time has passed.
From the talk here we are going to be split between the two venues????
If we break our contract, the Council can kick us out, and we would lose our pokie income.
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understand the pokie situation, that was the reason this whole saga started.GrumpyOne wrote:We still have a contractual agreement with Kingston Council to undertake some of our football activities there.sunsaint wrote:And once agian this is where my confusion lies.Dr Spaceman wrote:I'm not going to dis the place but sadly it's time has passed.
From the talk here we are going to be split between the two venues????
If we break our contract, the Council can kick us out, and we would lose our pokie income.
My point is why dont we just cut the losses and run.
Set up a pokie venue at seaford, and if Frankston REALLY want us we cna have more pokies.
There must be more to staying at both Linton st AND Seaford than this.
As i have said the split between the two venues (and people have pointed out that training wont cease at Linton St) just doesnt make financial sense.
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The government will not permit additional pokies in the City of Frankston.sunsaint wrote:understand the pokie situation, that was the reason this whole saga started.GrumpyOne wrote:We still have a contractual agreement with Kingston Council to undertake some of our football activities there.sunsaint wrote:And once agian this is where my confusion lies.Dr Spaceman wrote:I'm not going to dis the place but sadly it's time has passed.
From the talk here we are going to be split between the two venues????
If we break our contract, the Council can kick us out, and we would lose our pokie income.
My point is why dont we just cut the losses and run.
Set up a pokie venue at seaford, and if Frankston REALLY want us we cna have more pokies.
There must be more to staying at both Linton st AND Seaford than this.
As i have said the split between the two venues (and people have pointed out that training wont cease at Linton St) just doesnt make financial sense.
Each LGA has a limit based on population as to how many pokies can be located there.
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I want a premiership NOW.
When I die am probably going to hell and my new boss will demand I support the demons.
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When I die am probably going to hell and my new boss will demand I support the demons.
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So did you drive there GTT?GoTheTorp wrote:Was down there today and its looking alot better than Moorabbin.
And if so, how many times did you have to fill up the tank?
Did you stay somewhere overnight or just chuck down a few no-doz and press on?
I'm just curious as some on here are comparing the commute to the Paris-Dakar Rally.
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Had some business to do in Franga so wasnt really timing the run.Dr Spaceman wrote:So did you drive there GTT?GoTheTorp wrote:Was down there today and its looking alot better than Moorabbin.
And if so, how many times did you have to fill up the tank?
Did you stay somewhere overnight or just chuck down a few no-doz and press on?
I'm just curious as some on here are comparing the commute to the Paris-Dakar Rally.
At a guess a 20minute drive from Sandy via Beach Rd, would have been a little quicker if i had cruised down on the freeway. Just jump off the freeway at Seaford rd and your pretty much there. Fuel? wouldn't have used much more than if i drove across to Linton st.
By the way i am a Moorabbin boy born an bred and my family are still in the area, and i still think Linton St is a shyt hole compared to what the boys will have at Seaford.