2011 FIXture ? !!

[saintspremiers]

I love the bit that each team will have played all the other teams by Round 23, so that no team will play against a team for the first time in the final round.

......but to wait until the second last round of the season to play someone for the first time is perfectly fine

[saint66au]

Its the changing nature of football that has the fans caring far more about where and when we play than who we play. It seems that club football depts are the only ones to really sweat over that.

The average fan I dont think would care if we played Collingwood 6 times in a season, so long as they were all in Melbourne on a Friday night . Ross and the footy dept would be less impressed

[Eastern]

The AFL will release the fixture on Friday, October 29.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

floating final round continues.

That's an interesting date to release the FIXture. That's Melbourne Cup weekend when most people are busy preparing for a 4 day weekend. Must be to lessen the impact !!

[saintspremiers]

Its the changing nature of football that has the fans caring far more about where and when we play than who we play. It seems that club football depts are the only ones to really sweat over that.

The average fan I dont think would care if we played Collingwood 6 times in a season, so long as they were all in Melbourne on a Friday night . Ross and the footy dept would be less impressed

Must say I think you are spot on......does anyone disagree?

For me, a lot is about time slots......but I also like us to play home games against big drawing sides for the money side of things.

[Duggie]

The Filth will get the bowl of cherries again-- this time with cream on top.

[Eastern]

I'll stick with my prediction that we won't get a home game v Essendon, and possibly won't get a home game v Collingwood either, and this is WHOLLY because of the "Clash Jumper" issue where the AFL cannot/will not stand up to Essendon & Collingwood on this issue !!

[Sainternist]

ah, the dreaded bye makes a return.

anyone remember when we had the bye in 1992 and we had to sweat it out during the final round of the season and rely on the eagles to beat carlton. it was sweet after we got the right result. the following week we beat the filth at arctic park. they finished in the top 3 and got eliminated

[Enrico_Misso]

Its the changing nature of football that has the fans caring far more about where and when we play than who we play. It seems that club football depts are the only ones to really sweat over that.

The average fan I dont think would care if we played Collingwood 6 times in a season, so long as they were all in Melbourne on a Friday night . Ross and the footy dept would be less impressed

Must say I think you are spot on......does anyone disagree?

For me, a lot is about time slots......but I also like us to play home games against big drawing sides for the money side of things.

Totally disagree.
For me the draw is, or should be all about fairness.

I will be happy to see us get no more than our fair share of interstate games, and hopefully not a disproportionate number of repeat games against top sides.

So more than happy to only play Collingwood, Geel, Dogs once
- as that (should) imply an easier draw.

Timing is a secondary issue - but I hate those Twilight zone games.
I am also worried that after playing two Monday night games in the last two years, the AFL may dub us as the "Monday nighters".

[bigcarl]

For me the draw is, or should be all about fairness.

Exactly.

The league needs to decide whether it is purely a profit-making, "sports entertainment" franchise such as WWE ... or whether it wants to be called a sport.

Too much is decided on the basis of what will make money ... or worse, what is popular or politic.

Collingwood's draw (in which it didn't play away from the MCG after July 8) was a bad joke, of which St Kilda was the butt.

[Eastern]

Only 6 days until it is released. Then we can all whinge for days, weeks & months, but the AFL executives will have already decided which side their bread is buttered on !!

[plugger66]

For me the draw is, or should be all about fairness.

Exactly.

The league needs to decide whether it is purely a profit-making, "sports entertainment" franchise such as WWE ... or whether it wants to be called a sport.

Too much is decided on the basis of what will make money ... or worse, what is popular or politic.

Collingwood's draw (in which it didn't play away from the MCG after July 8) was a bad joke, of which St Kilda was the butt.

I know it is hard to get into your head but the pies played more top 8 sides twice than any other side in the 8. That to me is harder than playing at the G plenty of times.

[Eastern]

For me the draw is, or should be all about fairness.

Exactly.

The league needs to decide whether it is purely a profit-making, "sports entertainment" franchise such as WWE ... or whether it wants to be called a sport.

Too much is decided on the basis of what will make money ... or worse, what is popular or politic.

Collingwood's draw (in which it didn't play away from the MCG after July 8) was a bad joke, of which St Kilda was the butt.

I know it is hard to get into your head but the pies played more top 8 sides twice than any other side in the 8. That to me is harder than playing at the G plenty of times.

What many people (not just saints fans) are upset about is that Collingwood have a contract with the MCG (with AFL blessing) that is not available to any other club and is outside the AFL's own rules. And, the AFL will try to have us all believe that THEY are the the sole deciders on who plays where ,and when.

I suspect that Melbourne & Richmond fans would be far more upset than us. Afterall, they have been bullied off their home ground by Collingwood, and to a lesser extent by Essendon & Carlton!!

[plugger66]

For me the draw is, or should be all about fairness.

Exactly.

The league needs to decide whether it is purely a profit-making, "sports entertainment" franchise such as WWE ... or whether it wants to be called a sport.

Too much is decided on the basis of what will make money ... or worse, what is popular or politic.

Collingwood's draw (in which it didn't play away from the MCG after July 8) was a bad joke, of which St Kilda was the butt.

I know it is hard to get into your head but the pies played more top 8 sides twice than any other side in the 8. That to me is harder than playing at the G plenty of times.

What many people (not just saints fans) are upset about is that Collingwood have a contract with the MCG (with AFL blessing) that is not available to any other club and is outside the AFL's own rules. And, the AFL will try to have us all believe that THEY are the the sole deciders on who plays where ,and when.

I suspect that Melbourne & Richmond fans would be far more upset than us. Afterall, they have been bullied off their home ground by Collingwood, and to a lesser extent by Essendon & Carlton!!

What has that got to do with the fact that the pies played more top 8 sides twice than any other side in the top 8. I will ask you this. if you had a choice of playing Geelong, Collingwood or the WB twice but have 16 games at Etihad or playing thise sides once and 12 games at Etihad which one would you take. To me it is a no brainer you would pick the second option. As someone said early the important thing is how easy the draw is not when and where they are played.

[Eastern]

For me the draw is, or should be all about fairness.

Exactly.

The league needs to decide whether it is purely a profit-making, "sports entertainment" franchise such as WWE ... or whether it wants to be called a sport.

Too much is decided on the basis of what will make money ... or worse, what is popular or politic.

Collingwood's draw (in which it didn't play away from the MCG after July 8) was a bad joke, of which St Kilda was the butt.

I know it is hard to get into your head but the pies played more top 8 sides twice than any other side in the 8. That to me is harder than playing at the G plenty of times.

What many people (not just saints fans) are upset about is that Collingwood have a contract with the MCG (with AFL blessing) that is not available to any other club and is outside the AFL's own rules. And, the AFL will try to have us all believe that THEY are the the sole deciders on who plays where ,and when.

I suspect that Melbourne & Richmond fans would be far more upset than us. Afterall, they have been bullied off their home ground by Collingwood, and to a lesser extent by Essendon & Carlton!!

What has that got to do with the fact that the pies played more top 8 sides twice than any other side in the top 8. I will ask you this. if you had a choice of playing Geelong, Collingwood or the WB twice but have 16 games at Etihad or playing thise sides once and 12 games at Etihad which one would you take. To me it is a no brainer you would pick the second option. As someone said early the important thing is how easy the draw is not when and where they are played.

The arguement was about how many games Collingwood play at the MCG. You were the one who changed it to who plays who !!

[plugger66]

For me the draw is, or should be all about fairness.

Exactly.

The league needs to decide whether it is purely a profit-making, "sports entertainment" franchise such as WWE ... or whether it wants to be called a sport.

Too much is decided on the basis of what will make money ... or worse, what is popular or politic.

Collingwood's draw (in which it didn't play away from the MCG after July 8) was a bad joke, of which St Kilda was the butt.

I know it is hard to get into your head but the pies played more top 8 sides twice than any other side in the 8. That to me is harder than playing at the G plenty of times.

What many people (not just saints fans) are upset about is that Collingwood have a contract with the MCG (with AFL blessing) that is not available to any other club and is outside the AFL's own rules. And, the AFL will try to have us all believe that THEY are the the sole deciders on who plays where ,and when.

I suspect that Melbourne & Richmond fans would be far more upset than us. Afterall, they have been bullied off their home ground by Collingwood, and to a lesser extent by Essendon & Carlton!!

What has that got to do with the fact that the pies played more top 8 sides twice than any other side in the top 8. I will ask you this. if you had a choice of playing Geelong, Collingwood or the WB twice but have 16 games at Etihad or playing thise sides once and 12 games at Etihad which one would you take. To me it is a no brainer you would pick the second option. As someone said early the important thing is how easy the draw is not when and where they are played.

The arguement was about how many games Collingwood play at the MCG. You were the one who changed it to who plays who !!

Not sure about that. Enrico was talking about who we play once. Anyway which scenario would you rather?

[saintbrat]

anyone logging on to afl.com.au live on Friday morning?

[bigcarl]

For me the draw is, or should be all about fairness.

Exactly.

The league needs to decide whether it is purely a profit-making, "sports entertainment" franchise such as WWE ... or whether it wants to be called a sport.

Too much is decided on the basis of what will make money ... or worse, what is popular or politic.

Collingwood's draw (in which it didn't play away from the MCG after July 8) was a bad joke, of which St Kilda was the butt.

I know it is hard to get into your head but the pies played more top 8 sides twice than any other side in the 8. That to me is harder than playing at the G plenty of times.

Not only do the filth get to play at their home ground every week, they get to practice tactics against top eight sides more often than anyone else.

All on their home ground.

No wonder they are premiers.

Level playing field? Yeah right.

I'm trying to work out whether you are the club censor or the AFL censor or both.

[plugger66]

For me the draw is, or should be all about fairness.

Exactly.

The league needs to decide whether it is purely a profit-making, "sports entertainment" franchise such as WWE ... or whether it wants to be called a sport.

Too much is decided on the basis of what will make money ... or worse, what is popular or politic.

Collingwood's draw (in which it didn't play away from the MCG after July 8) was a bad joke, of which St Kilda was the butt.

I know it is hard to get into your head but the pies played more top 8 sides twice than any other side in the 8. That to me is harder than playing at the G plenty of times.

Not only do the filth get to play at their home ground every week, they get to practice tactics against top eight sides more often than anyone else.

All on their home ground.

No wonder they are premiers.

Level playing field? Yeah right.

I'm trying to work out whether you are the club censor or the AFL censor or both.

So would you rather play the pies, geelong and WB once and have 12 games at Etihad or play them twice and have 16 games there. by the way the Pies home groung is the G so not much you can do about it. They played there 16 times and we played our home ground 14 times. Are you honestly telling me 2 extra home games was why they won the flag?

[bigcarl]

So would you rather play the pies, geelong and WB once and have 12 games at Etihad or play them twice and have 16 games there. by the way the Pies home groung is the G so not much you can do about it. They played there 16 times and we played our home ground 14 times. Are you honestly telling me 2 extra home games was why they won the flag?

Playing their last 11 at their home ground certainly helped them.


No denying they are a very good side, but you must admit that it is a significant advantage.

[plugger66]

So would you rather play the pies, geelong and WB once and have 12 games at Etihad or play them twice and have 16 games there. by the way the Pies home groung is the G so not much you can do about it. They played there 16 times and we played our home ground 14 times. Are you honestly telling me 2 extra home games was why they won the flag?

Playing their last 11 at their home ground certainly helped them.

You cannot deny that is a significant advantage.

You refuse to look at who they played dont you because then you will have to acknowledge that their draw this year was harder than ours.

[bigcarl]

So would you rather play the pies, geelong and WB once and have 12 games at Etihad or play them twice and have 16 games there. by the way the Pies home groung is the G so not much you can do about it. They played there 16 times and we played our home ground 14 times. Are you honestly telling me 2 extra home games was why they won the flag?

Playing their last 11 at their home ground certainly helped them.

You cannot deny that is a significant advantage.

You refuse to look at who they played dont you because then you will have to acknowledge that their draw this year was harder than ours.

I know who they played. So what. We, too, are very difficult to beat on our home ground ... especially against top teams.

[plugger66]

So would you rather play the pies, geelong and WB once and have 12 games at Etihad or play them twice and have 16 games there. by the way the Pies home groung is the G so not much you can do about it. They played there 16 times and we played our home ground 14 times. Are you honestly telling me 2 extra home games was why they won the flag?

Playing their last 11 at their home ground certainly helped them.

You cannot deny that is a significant advantage.

You refuse to look at who they played dont you because then you will have to acknowledge that their draw this year was harder than ours.

I know who they played. So what. We, too, are very difficult to beat on our home ground ... especially against top teams.

So you would rather play 16 games at home and all the top 4 twice than 12 games at home and only play one of the top 4 twice. Strange. I think most people would rather play as lttle of the top 4 as possible even if it is at your home ground.

[Ghost Like]

So would you rather play the pies, geelong and WB once and have 12 games at Etihad or play them twice and have 16 games there. by the way the Pies home groung is the G so not much you can do about it. They played there 16 times and we played our home ground 14 times. Are you honestly telling me 2 extra home games was why they won the flag?

Playing their last 11 at their home ground certainly helped them.

You cannot deny that is a significant advantage.

You refuse to look at who they played dont you because then you will have to acknowledge that their draw this year was harder than ours.

I agree with you Plugger, they did have a harder draw than us...to me it shows they were a fair way better than us. We do have a bit to work on in terms of style, attack & disposal to overtake them...that is more important to St Kilda than getting caught up in who plays who, how often and where.

Having said that, the issue of fixturing in the AFL is a disgrace and to my way of thinking dilutes their product as it is flawed, not transparent, open to rorting and ultimately has too much of a say on how the final 8, top 4 is eventually decided...I'll stop short of calling it corrupt but to put $$$ ahead of a balanced & equitable draw is a sad indictment on the AFL competition.

[bigcarl]

So would you rather play the pies, geelong and WB once and have 12 games at Etihad or play them twice and have 16 games there. by the way the Pies home groung is the G so not much you can do about it. They played there 16 times and we played our home ground 14 times. Are you honestly telling me 2 extra home games was why they won the flag?

Playing their last 11 at their home ground certainly helped them.

You cannot deny that is a significant advantage.

You refuse to look at who they played dont you because then you will have to acknowledge that their draw this year was harder than ours.

I know who they played. So what. We, too, are very difficult to beat on our home ground ... especially against top teams.

So you would rather play 16 games at home and all the top 4 twice than 12 games at home and only play one of the top 4 twice. Strange. I think most people would rather play as lttle of the top 4 as possible even if it is at your home ground.

Eight consecutive matches at your home ground leading into a finals series ... also at your home ground.

Even you would like that for St Kilda.

[plugger66]

So would you rather play the pies, geelong and WB once and have 12 games at Etihad or play them twice and have 16 games there. by the way the Pies home groung is the G so not much you can do about it. They played there 16 times and we played our home ground 14 times. Are you honestly telling me 2 extra home games was why they won the flag?

Playing their last 11 at their home ground certainly helped them.

You cannot deny that is a significant advantage.

You refuse to look at who they played dont you because then you will have to acknowledge that their draw this year was harder than ours.

I know who they played. So what. We, too, are very difficult to beat on our home ground ... especially against top teams.

So you would rather play 16 games at home and all the top 4 twice than 12 games at home and only play one of the top 4 twice. Strange. I think most people would rather play as lttle of the top 4 as possible even if it is at your home ground.

Eight consecutive matches at your home ground leading into a finals series ... also at your home ground.

Even you would like that for St Kilda.

Have you just a repeat buttom? How about answering the question or will that then make you realise that they had a harder draw this year. Also do you want them to move the finals seen as the Pies chose the G as their home ground.