Saints hope to keep patched up Gardiner

saintly · Post: # 1011457Post **saintly** » Wed 06 Oct 2010 8:05am

very little trading to come it seems

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sp ... 5934588892

Saints hope to keep patched-up Gardiner Greg Denham From: The Australian October 06, 2010 12:00AM Increase Text SizeDecrease Text SizePrintEmail Share
Add to DiggAdd to del.icio.usAdd to FacebookAdd to KwoffAdd to MyspaceAdd to NewsvineWhat are these?ST KILDA has not ruled out contracting veteran ruckman Michael Gardiner for another season.
Gardiner, 31, who missed Saturday's grand final after tearing a hamstring a week earlier, is scheduled to enter hospital this month for several operations.

He requires shoulder surgery and an operation on his right elbow to remove floating bone chips, but of most concern will be radical stem-cell treatment for a chronic knee complaint which has restricted his mobility, particularly his ability to jump, for most of the season.............

saintbrat · Post: # 1011459Post **saintbrat** » Wed 06 Oct 2010 8:27am

can we / have we arrangements for The Australian to do all our media......
very even handed

Lyon said he would persevere more with Sam Gilbert as a forward next year with the availability of defender Raphael Clarke, who missed the second half of the season with a serious hamstring injury.

Gilbert, who has played almost all his career in the back line, impressed as a forward in the second half of the drawn grand final and was again an influence in attack in the second term last Saturday. But the Saints failed to reap full value from his run when he booted three points from very gettable shots on goal.

"Just as we brought James Gwilt on this year, we will give more opportunities to Jack Steven, David Armitage, Rhys Stanley, Nick Heyne and Tom Simpkin," Lyon said.

He said the Saints would concentrate on adding to their list by recruiting teenage talent in next month's national draft

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St Kilda is paying close to 100 per cent of its salary cap, leaving the Saints with little opportunity to recruit players from rival clubs in this week's player-exchange.

"The by-product of retaining a strong core group of players is that we don't have much room to move, but that's been by design to keep all our better players," Nettlefold said.

Mr Magic · Post: # 1011464Post **Mr Magic** » Wed 06 Oct 2010 8:50am

saintbrat wrote:can we / have we arrangements for The Australian to do all our media......
very even handed
Lyon said he would persevere more with Sam Gilbert as a forward next year with the availability of defender Raphael Clarke, who missed the second half of the season with a serious hamstring injury.

Gilbert, who has played almost all his career in the back line, impressed as a forward in the second half of the drawn grand final and was again an influence in attack in the second term last Saturday. But the Saints failed to reap full value from his run when he booted three points from very gettable shots on goal.

"Just as we brought James Gwilt on this year, we will give more opportunities to Jack Steven, David Armitage, Rhys Stanley, Nick Heyne and Tom Simpkin," Lyon said.

He said the Saints would concentrate on adding to their list by recruiting teenage talent in next month's national draft
.

St Kilda is paying close to 100 per cent of its salary cap, leaving the Saints with little opportunity to recruit players from rival clubs in this week's player-exchange.

"The by-product of retaining a strong core group of players is that we don't have much room to move, but that's been by design to keep all our better players," Nettlefold said.

Unless they're writing stories about Luke Ball/StKilda/Collingwood - then they are apparently just making it up

BTW, same journalist - Greg Denham

saintbrat · Post: # 1011465Post **saintbrat** » Wed 06 Oct 2010 8:52am

oops forgot that

saintlee · Post: # 1011501Post **saintlee** » Wed 06 Oct 2010 9:55am

Interesting he didn't mention Tom Lynch as a player to get more opportunities....given our forward line issues, you'd think he might get a look in...

Rice Paper · Wed 06 Oct 2010 10:12am

I also hope he hasn't forgotton Luke Miles, this guy is ready to play a huge role in replacing Baker, Blake in the backline and is quicker and kicks better then both of them.

Miles in the backline helps to push Gilbert into the forward line & keeps Goddard in the midfield.

The one player I would like to trade for is Paul Bevan, he can play the ideal defensive forward that Ross like and he can kick a goal like he did in the final against Carlton and he is also a very good mark. All the skills McQualter & Eddy don't have.

2011 forward line:
Milne Stanley Snieder
Bevan Roo Gilbert

More balanced between talls / smalls and more attacking.

Dr Spaceman · Wed 06 Oct 2010 10:38am

Rice Paper wrote:I also hope he hasn't forgotton Luke Miles, this guy is ready to play a huge role in replacing Baker, Blake in the backline and is quicker and kicks better then both of them.

Miles in the backline helps to push Gilbert into the forward line & keeps Goddard in the midfield.

The one player I would like to trade for is Paul Bevan, he can play the ideal defensive forward that Ross like and he can kick a goal like he did in the final against Carlton and he is also a very good mark. All the skills McQualter & Eddy don't have.

2011 forward line:
Milne Stanley Snieder
Bevan Roo Gilbert

More balanced between talls / smalls and more attacking.

As with the previous comment from saintlee, I don't think Ross is neccessarily forgetting or discarding anyone. I think he's just throwing names up off the cuff.

Anyway, the blokes who will be pushing up next year are the ones who shine in the pre season, NAB Cup and early Sandy games. If that includes Miles and Lynch they'll obviously be considerd.

SainterK · Post: # 1011581Post **SainterK** » Wed 06 Oct 2010 11:26am

Gleaning info from various posters on here....Miles, Lynch and Steven all had legit reasons not to be selected, hopefully they are all in good health come NAB cup.

I like Gilbert up forward, height...mobility...the accuracy will come IMO.

Thinline · Post: # 1011586Post **Thinline** » Wed 06 Oct 2010 11:29am

I'm not averse to Bevan. I've always thought of him as a player.

But Gardi shouldn't go around again.

ChicagoSaint · Wed 06 Oct 2010 11:33am

saintlee wrote:Interesting he didn't mention Tom Lynch as a player to get more opportunities....given our forward line issues, you'd think he might get a look in...

there's a guy by the name of stanley and he's handy. but yeah, dunno what the future holds for tom lynch maybe just another year or two of magoos until milney hangs up the boots, who knows.

saintsRrising · Wed 06 Oct 2010 12:22pm

Lyon can't mention every one.....so do not be too concerned.

He was just making the point that we do have some existing talent at the club to bring on..

FQF · Post: # 1011639Post **FQF** » Wed 06 Oct 2010 12:29pm

I'd like to think that at least a couple of our more recent first round draft picks become players.

Armo

Lynch

Mcevoy

Winmar

Walsh (club apparently considered him an equivalent to a first round pick)

AnythingsPossibleSaints · Wed 06 Oct 2010 1:09pm

How the hell do we go into games with McEvoy, Kosi and a one-year older Gardi, with only 3 + a "sub" on the bench from next year? Plus hopefully Stanley?
I think they have to make a call between Gardi and Mac, who were both relatively ordinary in their GF's. Hopefully Mac will be better again next year, while Gardi will be one year older.
Surely Kosi has to ruck now, meaning, at best, one of Gardi or Mac on the bench/rotating out of the forward line. Maybe Gardi just gets kept as "back-up", like King was for most of this year.