Why this team can't succeed

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Why this team can't succeed

Post: # 1009668Post Bigmal47 »

As an interesting exercise I looked over our GF teams for 65, 66, 71 & 97 the difference with those teams is that there were no real duds. Unfortunately we have more duds than any other AFL side and the good players in most cases when on their game have been able to cover for them. It is going to take time to replace these players as we don't appear to have any stand outs at Sandy. People tout Stanley but he is not set the world on fire, Lynch is far to timid, Walsh a year or two away and Steven no certainty especially if suffering OP. The only immediate possible' s appear to be Simpkin and Miles.
I don't have any real answers but it is obvious are recruiters either have to find a Barlow or two or adopt a youth policy which will be difficult with the compromised drafts.
The saying no pain no gain is very true, perhaps it is time to once again suffer the pain otherwise we will continue to be bridesmaids


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Post: # 1009691Post Saints43 »

You can't have as many players on top whack as we do without having 'duds'.

As far as I'm concerned we have some of the most reliable bottom wage range players you can get. How often do Blake, Gwilt, Dawson, Baker, Dempster, Jones let us down?

Riewoldt, Dal Santo, Schneider have let us down in three grand finals.

Riewoldt would be the best paid player at the club.

Dal Santo & Schneider would be in the top seven.

I reckon I can spot where the problem is.


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Re: Why this team can't succeed

Post: # 1009710Post eppo67 »

Bigmal47 wrote:As an interesting exercise I looked over our GF teams for 65, 66, 71 & 97 the difference with those teams is that there were no real duds. Unfortunately we have more duds than any other AFL side and the good players in most cases when on their game have been able to cover for them. It is going to take time to replace these players as we don't appear to have any stand outs at Sandy. People tout Stanley but he is not set the world on fire, Lynch is far to timid, Walsh a year or two away and Steven no certainty especially if suffering OP. The only immediate possible' s appear to be Simpkin and Miles.
I don't have any real answers but it is obvious are recruiters either have to find a Barlow or two or adopt a youth policy which will be difficult with the compromised drafts.
The saying no pain no gain is very true, perhaps it is time to once again suffer the pain otherwise we will continue to be bridesmaids
Dont you just love the one word throw away line to sum up why someone wont be any good. ie Lynch is too timid WTF!!

We have the best set of young players (who dont get played ) I have seen at this club in some time. Just remember what everyone was saying about BJ when he was a 20 yo. Waste of a no. 1 pick etc.

Stanley,Steven,Walsh,Miles, Armo, Lynch,Heyne,Simpkin,A.Smith, & Geary & Eddy are both only 22yo.

Cant wait to read the throw away one liners discounting many of these players.

I think the future is very bright.


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Re: Why this team can't succeed

Post: # 1009728Post InkerSaint »

Bigmal47 wrote:As an interesting exercise I looked over our GF teams for 65, 66, 71 & 97 the difference with those teams is that there were no real duds. Unfortunately we have more duds than any other AFL side and the good players in most cases when on their game have been able to cover for them. It is going to take time to replace these players as we don't appear to have any stand outs at Sandy. People tout Stanley but he is not set the world on fire, Lynch is far to timid, Walsh a year or two away and Steven no certainty especially if suffering OP. The only immediate possible' s appear to be Simpkin and Miles.
I don't have any real answers but it is obvious are recruiters either have to find a Barlow or two or adopt a youth policy which will be difficult with the compromised drafts.
The saying no pain no gain is very true, perhaps it is time to once again suffer the pain otherwise we will continue to be bridesmaids
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(logic)

Premise: to win a Grand Final, St Kilda must have a team that is equal in makeup to its last Grand Final-winning team.


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Post: # 1009734Post perfectionist »

I disagree. I reckon the only year when we had no duds was 1966. The next best "no duds" years were 2004 and 2005, if - BIG IF - everyone was fit. But there have been plenty of Premiership teams who have had duds. Don't have to go back too far, look at Port, Swans and WC - coincidentally around the time that we should have been making hay.

In 1966, the last two players in the 18 (not counting the reserves) were Allan Davis and Jeff Moran. Neither went on to be duds. One played 250 games and the other 155 games.


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