Trade Week for us.

borderbarry · Mon 04 Oct 2010 10:27am

What can we expect to see in Trade Week starting tomorrow for the Saints? I hope we can exchange some Grand Final players for a quick forward and draft picks.

FQF · Post: # 1009126Post **FQF** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 10:30am

Someone on the forum mentioned Gram as possible trade bait.

His performance in last year's GF lifted his reputation significantly and he would demand quite a good player in return.

If we could somehow use him to get an updated Gram, or trade for a different player and allow Miles to settle into his position it could be an upside.

Having said all that, I always feel sick thinking about trading loyal members of our team.

But to get, you've gotta give.

Tom_Aus · Post: # 1009127Post **Tom_Aus** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 10:30am

If we want another crack at it next year we need to have an excellent trade period, and if we are to pick up recycled players, they must have quality, not second graders, from second grade clubs (Peake, Pattison).
My wish list would be:
- Ready made ruckman such as Cox or Mitch Clarke
- Inside midfielder to give Lenny help such as Daniel Rich
- Outside midfielder with speed, possibly Tambling

FQF · Post: # 1009131Post **FQF** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 10:33am

Tom_Aus wrote:If we want another crack at it next year we need to have an excellent trade period, and if we are to pick up recycled players, they must have quality, not second graders, from second grade clubs (Peake, Pattison).
My wish list would be:
- Ready made ruckman such as Cox or Mitch Clarke
- Inside midfielder to give Lenny help such as Daniel Rich
- Outside midfielder with speed, possibly Tambling

I didn't think Rick was interested in coming to Vic. But he does have beautiful long kicks, and no matter who it is, a ball travels faster than even the fastest players.

Same deal with Mitch Clarke, don't think he wants to come to Vic.

Daniel Kerr's name gets thrown up here during every trade period.
He would be mightily handy though.

saintlee · Post: # 1009135Post **saintlee** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 10:36am

I actually wouldn't mind us trading with GC for a few high draft picks...I know our window is probably open for another year at least, but I personally feel like we need to inject some quality youth....

borderbarry · Mon 04 Oct 2010 11:19am

Yes, but who would the GC be interested in from Saturday? Eddy, Dempster, Jones, Kosi, Mini.?

Thinline · Post: # 1009245Post **Thinline** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 11:21am

borderbarry wrote:Yes, but who would the GC be interested in from Saturday? Eddy, Dempster, Jones, Kosi, Mini.?

Maybe Jones. Maybe Dempster. Definitely Kosi. Need a ruckman. They'd take him in a heartbeat if a deal could be arranged.

Con Gorozidis · Mon 04 Oct 2010 11:21am

Tom_Aus wrote:If we want another crack at it next year we need to have an excellent trade period, and if we are to pick up recycled players, they must have quality, not second graders, from second grade clubs (Peake, Pattison).
My wish list would be:
- Ready made ruckman such as Cox or Mitch Clarke
- Inside midfielder to give Lenny help such as Daniel Rich
- Outside midfielder with speed, possibly Tambling

back-up for lenny. well how about giving a smith or armo a game? back up for gram - how about giving miles a game?

we need more mids badly. we need a steele sidebottom.

Thinline · Post: # 1009255Post **Thinline** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 11:24am

Con Gorozidis wrote:
Tom_Aus wrote:If we want another crack at it next year we need to have an excellent trade period, and if we are to pick up recycled players, they must have quality, not second graders, from second grade clubs (Peake, Pattison).
My wish list would be:
- Ready made ruckman such as Cox or Mitch Clarke
- Inside midfielder to give Lenny help such as Daniel Rich
- Outside midfielder with speed, possibly Tambling
back-up for lenny. well how about giving a smith or armo a game? back up for gram - how about giving miles a game?

we need more mids badly. we need a steele sidebottom.

I have a feeling we had a chance at Steele Sidebottom didn't we?

He has been vital. Creative, tough, quick, beats his man.

Liam_G · Post: # 1009268Post **Liam_G** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 11:30am

Thinline wrote:I have a feeling we had a chance at Steele Sidebottom didn't we?

No, he went Pick 11. We had Pick 13 (Tom Lynch).

Animal Enclosure · Mon 04 Oct 2010 11:31am

Thinline wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
Tom_Aus wrote:If we want another crack at it next year we need to have an excellent trade period, and if we are to pick up recycled players, they must have quality, not second graders, from second grade clubs (Peake, Pattison).
My wish list would be:
- Ready made ruckman such as Cox or Mitch Clarke
- Inside midfielder to give Lenny help such as Daniel Rich
- Outside midfielder with speed, possibly Tambling
back-up for lenny. well how about giving a smith or armo a game? back up for gram - how about giving miles a game?

we need more mids badly. we need a steele sidebottom.
I have a feeling we had a chance at Steele Sidebottom didn't we?

He has been vital. Creative, tough, quick, beats his man.

He went the pick before Tom Lynch.

Just like Nathan Brown went the pick before Armo.

Our previous ownership of the Filth is September has bitten us on the bum in these twon cases.

mohannair · Mon 04 Oct 2010 12:12pm

FQF wrote:Someone on the forum mentioned Gram as possible trade bait.

His performance in last year's GF lifted his reputation significantly and he would demand quite a good player in return.

If we could somehow use him to get an updated Gram, or trade for a different player and allow Miles to settle into his position it could be an upside.

Having said all that, I always feel sick thinking about trading loyal members of our team.

But to get, you've gotta give.

We are going down the wrong track if we think abt. trading Gram. He was not fit this year & hence limited output.

Similar to Luke Ball last year.

Grammy is an elite player & will be a major part of our club going forward, a good pre-season will have a positive impact.

mohannair · Mon 04 Oct 2010 12:14pm

Thinline wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
Tom_Aus wrote:If we want another crack at it next year we need to have an excellent trade period, and if we are to pick up recycled players, they must have quality, not second graders, from second grade clubs (Peake, Pattison).
My wish list would be:
- Ready made ruckman such as Cox or Mitch Clarke
- Inside midfielder to give Lenny help such as Daniel Rich
- Outside midfielder with speed, possibly Tambling
back-up for lenny. well how about giving a smith or armo a game? back up for gram - how about giving miles a game?

we need more mids badly. we need a steele sidebottom.
I have a feeling we had a chance at Steele Sidebottom didn't we?

He has been vital. Creative, tough, quick, beats his man.

No Sidebottom went before we got our pick. We picked Lynch because Steele was picked by Pies before we got the first chance.

mohannair · Mon 04 Oct 2010 12:15pm

Thinline wrote:
borderbarry wrote:Yes, but who would the GC be interested in from Saturday? Eddy, Dempster, Jones, Kosi, Mini.?
Maybe Jones. Maybe Dempster. Definitely Kosi. Need a ruckman. They'd take him in a heartbeat if a deal could be arranged.

Jones played last few weeks with a broken foot & hence limited output. He is the best tagger going around, Boomer Harvey may be able to explain in details.

dragit · Post: # 1009490Post **dragit** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 1:41pm

If Gardiner retires, I wouldn't be surprised if Josh (i can't believe it's not butter) Fraser lands at the Saintsâ€¦

SaintWodonga · Mon 04 Oct 2010 1:42pm

dragit wrote:If Gardiner retires, I wouldn't be surprised if Josh (i can't believe it's not butter) Fraser lands at the Saintsâ€¦

No thanks.. Don't want him. I am sure it was announced on Saturday night Gardiner will stay for 1 more year..

Con Gorozidis · Mon 04 Oct 2010 1:44pm

SaintWodonga wrote:
dragit wrote:If Gardiner retires, I wouldn't be surprised if Josh (i can't believe it's not butter) Fraser lands at the Saintsâ€¦
No thanks.. Don't want him. I am sure it was announced on Saturday night Gardiner will stay for 1 more year..

just what we need. another guy who cant play ruck and cant play fwd. we have kosi already.

im happy to give patto & stanley more games in 2010. i just want mids mids and more mids!

can we ask collingwood for pick 30 for luke ball again?

dragit · Post: # 1009497Post **dragit** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 1:46pm

SaintWodonga wrote:
dragit wrote:If Gardiner retires, I wouldn't be surprised if Josh (i can't believe it's not butter) Fraser lands at the Saintsâ€¦
No thanks.. Don't want him. I am sure it was announced on Saturday night Gardiner will stay for 1 more year..

Neither do I, but I didn't want Peake or Pattison either. Hope Gardiner can put in 1 moreâ€¦

58ter · Post: # 1009571Post **58ter** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 2:28pm

rumour going round is Tambling wants out from richmond , saints maybe keen ( apol if in another post )

SaintPav · Post: # 1009642Post **SaintPav** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 3:12pm

58ter wrote:rumour going round is Tambling wants out from richmond , saints maybe keen ( apol if in another post )

Is he quick and does he have good disposal?

Solar · Post: # 1009648Post **Solar** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 3:17pm

SaintPav wrote:
58ter wrote:rumour going round is Tambling wants out from richmond , saints maybe keen ( apol if in another post )
Is he quick and does he have good disposal?

yes and yes. Does he have the tank to play midfield and is his decsision making up for it is debateable.

gringo · Post: # 1009651Post **gringo** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 3:18pm

Tambling is fast. Could be better with us.

Josh Frazer is not even close to kosi's standard. We should offer money to Dick from collingwood if he is not too far gone, Wellingham was good and looks like has an up side.

If we don't get them at least stretch the Pies cap. Pacy guys or guys with fast reaction time are needed, speed can be deceiving, we need guys that can think quick too. Hill for the dogs, Ayce Cordy kept out from last year at the dogs could be worth a try.

Goal kicking spread will be crucial so any goal kicking mids would be handy.

dcstkfc · Post: # 1009653Post **dcstkfc** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 3:21pm

Con Gorozidis wrote: im happy to give patto & stanley more games in 2010. i just want mids mids and more mids!

Exavtly right. Our top three mids are very good but it drops away alarmingly from there.

The problem has been that many of our mid recruits haven't worked out:
-Armitage (to date)
-Birss
-Howard
-Leigh Fisher (fell away)
-Fiora
-McGough

Steven should move forward to allow Schneider to play mid next year.

Thinline · Post: # 1009658Post **Thinline** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 3:25pm

dcstkfc wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote: im happy to give patto & stanley more games in 2010. i just want mids mids and more mids!
Exavtly right. Our top three mids are very good but it drops away alarmingly from there.

The problem has been that many of our mid recruits haven't worked out:
-Armitage (to date)
-Birss
-Howard
-Leigh Fisher (fell away)
-Fiora
-McGough

Steven should move forward to allow Schneider to play mid next year.

I like this idea. I also like Milne's game as forward of centre mid in the QF.

Both are good users of the ball if they can develop the tank.

remboy · Post: # 1009661Post **remboy** » Mon 04 Oct 2010 3:26pm

I jsut hope we don't give up any of our draft picks for a GOP from another club. The main things we need are pace and skills. If there are kids in the draft with qualities we have to get them.
It would be a mistake trading Gram as he is one on our list who has some leg speed.
Others have already mentioned the likes of Miles, Stanley, Armo and Steven. Time to give them an extended run. Add another group of 18 year olds this year and in 2 or three seasons hopefully we'll have another group of decent players.
If I have one criticism of Ross Lyon, he seems to prefer sticking to the 22-24 year olds that we've all seen before rather than taking a punt on 18 and 19 year olds. Time to take a chance Ross.