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Post: # 1002989Post 58ter »

leave mini where he is, 10 tackles ,has a defensive role and sets up atacks.
if weren't useful he wouldn't be in the side,


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Lets get fresh legs. Yep young guys who havent played for 5 weeks and never played in a final. That should get us over the line. Ben for MG is the only change IMO.


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i'm leaning to rhys , who can generate an X factor, the boy can run quickly double back into the forward zone when we push up and effect a turnover, he can also outreach the filths defence.
with kosi and the blake in the ruck and stanley rotating with kosi up forward this will create a huge prob for milkshake.
big ben is not suited to the quick open type of game imo.

there is no room for sentiment for the gf


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plugger66 wrote:Lets get fresh legs. Yep young guys who havent played for 5 weeks and never played in a final. That should get us over the line. Ben for MG is the only change IMO.
Couldn't agree more!!


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I do highly rate Stanley and expect we will see wonderful things from him but he is not the right fit to come in for this game IMO

As others have said the only likely out will be Gardi and even though its not said and done I would imagine we would see Big Ben in for him.


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Post: # 1003027Post degruch »

IluvHarvey wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Lets get fresh legs. Yep young guys who havent played for 5 weeks and never played in a final. That should get us over the line. Ben for MG is the only change IMO.
Couldn't agree more!!
Alistair Smith? Nicholas Winmar? Connor Harvey? :P


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degruch wrote:
IluvHarvey wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Lets get fresh legs. Yep young guys who havent played for 5 weeks and never played in a final. That should get us over the line. Ben for MG is the only change IMO.
Couldn't agree more!!
Alistair Smith? Nicholas Winmar? Connor Harvey? :P
Connor had an ordinary year at Mt Eliza under 12's. Cant see him coming into the side but I have been wrong before. Smith is a huge chance as is Alistair Smith.


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plugger66 wrote:
degruch wrote:
IluvHarvey wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Lets get fresh legs. Yep young guys who havent played for 5 weeks and never played in a final. That should get us over the line. Ben for MG is the only change IMO.
Couldn't agree more!!
Alistair Smith? Nicholas Winmar? Connor Harvey? :P
Connor had an ordinary year at Mt Eliza under 12's. Cant see him coming into the side but I have been wrong before. Smith is a huge chance as is Alistair Smith.
Oh the semantics, look, we're talking about the condition of the legs here...specifically there freshness. In the modern game, there's less and less a role for anyone over 14, everyone knows it.


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Post: # 1003056Post evertonfc »

McQualter did some excellent things. His third quarter was full of hard-bodied efforts. No way he should be dropped.

Eddy? Yes. He had his chance. Geary might not be so clean but he brings 20 possessions and enough toe to make a difference.

Armitage less likely. He's hard and tough but less likely to pick up the numbers and pace isn't his strong suit.


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Do NOT require both......

Eddy was completely ignored as a defensive fwd....and Maxwell zoned off him and he did not get dangerous....and he is a very slow decision maker and gets caught out. Both with limited skill, and provide very little offensive output.....one needs to go...Eddy would be under the pump...

replacements could be

Geary....gives back/fwd flexibilty with the same motor
Armitage....can get more dangerous and kicks goals, provides another mid rotation and allow Dal to move fwd, strong tackler also, big body taylor made for GF's
Stanley.....provides a hieght alternative with speed, allows Kosi to ruck more
Miles......Pace
Steven.....speed and offensive ability


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BigMart wrote:Do NOT require both......

Eddy was completely ignored as a defensive fwd....and Maxwell zoned off him and he did not get dangerous....and he is a very slow decision maker and gets caught out. Both with limited skill, and provide very little offensive output.....one needs to go...Eddy would be under the pump...

replacements could be

Geary....gives back/fwd flexibilty with the same motor
Armitage....can get more dangerous and kicks goals, provides another mid rotation and allow Dal to move fwd, strong tackler also, big body taylor made for GF's
Stanley.....provides a hieght alternative with speed, allows Kosi to ruck more
Miles......Pace
Steven.....speed and offensive ability
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DWOODROW wrote:
BigMart wrote:Do NOT require both......

Eddy was completely ignored as a defensive fwd....and Maxwell zoned off him and he did not get dangerous....and he is a very slow decision maker and gets caught out. Both with limited skill, and provide very little offensive output.....one needs to go...Eddy would be under the pump...

replacements could be

Geary....gives back/fwd flexibilty with the same motor
Armitage....can get more dangerous and kicks goals, provides another mid rotation and allow Dal to move fwd, strong tackler also, big body taylor made for GF's
Stanley.....provides a hieght alternative with speed, allows Kosi to ruck more
Miles......Pace
Steven.....speed and offensive ability
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Post: # 1004850Post Con Gorozidis »

I think this article says a lot. Mini is an absolute certainty. One of the first picked BUT Eddy must be in serious trouble.... his pressure is down. And his disposal and decision making were terrible. He has a habit of handballing to either Saints players feets or to opposition players or to noone in particular. He also seems to be one those players that runs out of space into traffic (as opposed to an NDS who does the opposite).


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McQualter was pounded in some quarters for his game on Saturday, being described as a nowhere man who did little.

Well, when the Saints finally get around to having a best-and-fairest vote, he may be high up. Coach Ross Lyon would have loved his work.

McQualter was the No.2 pressure applier on the ground, with 71.1 points.

He even matched the herculean Hayes for physical pressure points awarded for effective tackles, bumps and tackles that impede an opponent but do not stop him getting a disposal away.

Apart from Michael Gardiner, who was crippled by a hamstring injury, the two lowest pressure players on the ground were defenders Ben Reid and Nathan Brown. But their job is to spoil in the air, more than lay tackles on the ground.

Of the smaller players, closer to ground level, Saint Robert Eddy had the lowest pressure score with 11.1.


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Post: # 1004855Post samoht »

I'd bring in Geary - for Gardiner - he's tough, versatile and provides run.

We have a few sore ground level players - so Geary would be handy.


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Post: # 1004871Post skeptic »

The regulars will know that I'm far from a Mini fan

I've been calling for him to be dropped for months however Saturday was one of his better performances IMO... if he actually kicked occasional goals he'd be a gem

Eddy had a stinker but has been in decent form. Wouldn't match him up on Maxwell again.

Would love to see Geary or Armo come in. For who I'm not sure. Gram is the guy I'm most concerned about


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skeptic wrote:The regulars will know that I'm far from a Mini fan

I've been calling for him to be dropped for months however Saturday was one of his better performances IMO... if he actually kicked occasional goals he'd be a gem

Eddy had a stinker but has been in decent form. Wouldn't match him up on Maxwell again.

Would love to see Geary or Armo come in. For who I'm not sure. Gram is the guy I'm most concerned about
geary will come in i reckon as will mcevoy. we cant rick not having a ruckman. jolly will just kill us.

gram worries me too... clearly playing with a dodgy groin...


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Geary, McEvoy in. Eddy, Gardi out.


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Post: # 1004884Post degruch »

Con Gorozidis wrote:...we cant rick not having a ruckman. jolly will just kill us.
Like last week?


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Post: # 1004893Post samoht »

degruch wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:...we cant rick not having a ruckman. jolly will just kill us.
Like last week?
when we had 10 more hit outs !


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Post: # 1004897Post degruch »

samoht wrote:
degruch wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:...we cant rick not having a ruckman. jolly will just kill us.
Like last week?
when we had 10 more hit outs !
Without a recognised full time ruckman for most of the game.


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degruch wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:...we cant rick not having a ruckman. jolly will just kill us.
Like last week?
Imagine Jolly's first half if we went in with two part time ruckmen. He would have killed us. Kosi and Blake were fantastic don't get me wrong, but They rucked when Jolly was tiring. I think Ben has to come in. I honestly believe that Mini will definately keep his place and Eddy is more likely to play than not.


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Post: # 1004909Post Con Gorozidis »

Look Kosi and Blakey were noble. But id still not like the idea of going in with them alone. I havent seen the stats but I was at the game and from where I was watching Jolly seemed to be hitting it down swans throat a hell of a lot in that first half. We need at leat one ruckman.


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degruch wrote:
samoht wrote:
degruch wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:...we cant rick not having a ruckman. jolly will just kill us.
Like last week?
when we had 10 more hit outs !
Without a recognised full time ruckman for most of the game.
Oi! Grant Thomas. What are you doing on here :-)


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Post: # 1004927Post samoht »

I reckon ruckman are over-rated - apart from Sandilands who clearly directs a few hit outs.

There's only 1 ruckman I recognise... and he plays for the Dockers.

Most hitouts are either misdirected, end up line ball or are shark-able.


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Post: # 1004952Post degruch »

Con Gorozidis wrote:
degruch wrote:
samoht wrote:
degruch wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:...we cant rick not having a ruckman. jolly will just kill us.
Like last week?
when we had 10 more hit outs !
Without a recognised full time ruckman for most of the game.
Oi! Grant Thomas. What are you doing on here :-)
:P :lol:


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