Laughable.maverick wrote: Anyone thought of Tommy Walsh?
I mean... you can't be serious?
Possible team changes
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I know we've moved on from Armo in this thread, but I have to say I would not be supprised if he left at the end of this year.
He's got a lot of potential, is a high draft pick, and has shown an ability to be a good clearance player, a great tackler and a goal kicking mid.
He has never been given the opportunity by Ross to cement a spot in the line up, he seems to get a run every now and then for 1 or 2 games and then dropped again.
I really hope we can keep him and that Ross just plays the bloke next year, just give him a big hitout, 10 games minimum to show what he's about.
How much did it help McEvoy's developement having that stretch of 10 or so games last year? And how much has he come alone since being given a fair dinkum chance this year?
He (McEvoy) was also a first round draft pick and has shown what he can do. Armo has shown what he can do, but for some reason hasn't been given the chance to do it!
He's got a lot of potential, is a high draft pick, and has shown an ability to be a good clearance player, a great tackler and a goal kicking mid.
He has never been given the opportunity by Ross to cement a spot in the line up, he seems to get a run every now and then for 1 or 2 games and then dropped again.
I really hope we can keep him and that Ross just plays the bloke next year, just give him a big hitout, 10 games minimum to show what he's about.
How much did it help McEvoy's developement having that stretch of 10 or so games last year? And how much has he come alone since being given a fair dinkum chance this year?
He (McEvoy) was also a first round draft pick and has shown what he can do. Armo has shown what he can do, but for some reason hasn't been given the chance to do it!
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Stanley for Gardiner. Kosi into the ruck and Stanley as quick tall forward. Will stretch Magpie backline.
Steven for Eddy. Steven can kick a goal, and helps Lenny extracting the ball, as well as provide extra midfield rotation.
If Gram is as fit as he was last Saturday, sorry but bring back Nick Heyne. He's got a hard body and good pace.
Steven for Eddy. Steven can kick a goal, and helps Lenny extracting the ball, as well as provide extra midfield rotation.
If Gram is as fit as he was last Saturday, sorry but bring back Nick Heyne. He's got a hard body and good pace.
Actually, Ross mentioned Steven tonight, something along the lines of 'he's up and about again'
I honestly think Ross will lean towards more runners, and we may not see McEvoy in
Kosi was great in the ruck, and FC pointed out very well tonight, that we struggled to keep our ball inside 50 before he moved in there. Not sure Ben would give any more mobility than Kosi.
I am actually predicting
Kosi/Blake in the ruck
Gilbert to remain forward (our backline seem to handle this move forward)
Out Gardiner
In Geary
I honestly think Ross will lean towards more runners, and we may not see McEvoy in
Kosi was great in the ruck, and FC pointed out very well tonight, that we struggled to keep our ball inside 50 before he moved in there. Not sure Ben would give any more mobility than Kosi.
I am actually predicting
Kosi/Blake in the ruck
Gilbert to remain forward (our backline seem to handle this move forward)
Out Gardiner
In Geary
If one week ago you had suggested that Ross would be going into a GF with no fulltime ruckman when he always plays two I would have thought you are crazy.SainterK wrote:Actually, Ross mentioned Steven tonight, something along the lines of 'he's up and about again'
I honestly think Ross will lean towards more runners, and we may not see McEvoy in
Kosi was great in the ruck, and FC pointed out very well tonight, that we struggled to keep our ball inside 50 before he moved in there. Not sure Ben would give any more mobility than Kosi.
I am actually predicting
Kosi/Blake in the ruck
Gilbert to remain forward (our backline seem to handle this move forward)
Out Gardiner
In Geary
Now I'm starting to think that maybe you are right.
Crazy huh, he may bring in Ben, but I think he will at least consider the above#1GILL wrote:If one week ago you had suggested that Ross would be going into a GF with no fulltime ruckman when he always plays two I would have thought you are crazy.SainterK wrote:Actually, Ross mentioned Steven tonight, something along the lines of 'he's up and about again'
I honestly think Ross will lean towards more runners, and we may not see McEvoy in
Kosi was great in the ruck, and FC pointed out very well tonight, that we struggled to keep our ball inside 50 before he moved in there. Not sure Ben would give any more mobility than Kosi.
I am actually predicting
Kosi/Blake in the ruck
Gilbert to remain forward (our backline seem to handle this move forward)
Out Gardiner
In Geary
Now I'm starting to think that maybe you are right.
Horses for Courses
possible team changes
in Miles and A Smith
out Dal Santo and Gram
pace pace pace and Dal and Gram didn't look right
out Dal Santo and Gram
pace pace pace and Dal and Gram didn't look right
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Re: possible team changes
Pace means bugger all if you don't win the ball.JABBER wrote:in Miles and A Smith
out Dal Santo and Gram
pace pace pace and Dal and Gram didn't look right
Out: Gardiner and possibly Eddy, Gram if injured.
In: McEvoy and possibly Geary, Miles is my smokie for Gram.
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Thinline you wrote Miles cound'nt win the ball but had him as a likely replacement if gram is injured or did you mean my favioutte in A Smith
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No. I meant Miles.JABBER wrote:Thinline you wrote Miles cound'nt win the ball but had him as a likely replacement if gram is injured or did you mean my favioutte in A Smith
I was referring to McEvoy re ball winning.
You seemed to ignore the need for a ruckman.
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I don't really understand this comment. Yes Eddy looked overawed at the occasion, but surely he is better for playing. Who do we replace him with Armo? He never has played in a GF and could possibly be overawed as well. Geary or Steven? they never have played in a final let alone a Grand Final. I honestly believe that if Eddy stays in we will see a completely different game from him.MC Gusto wrote:
eddy must go out for mine too. was waaaaay out of his depth and really felt the pressure.
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I agree re: Eddy, he's capable, and he has a rare chance to attone. Replacing a noobie with a noobie does not present an immediate benefit to me, unless it's to suit a specific gameplan.IluvHarvey wrote:I don't really understand this comment. Yes Eddy looked overawed at the occasion, but surely he is better for playing. Who do we replace him with Armo? He never has played in a GF and could possibly be overawed as well. Geary or Steven? they never have played in a final let alone a Grand Final. I honestly believe that if Eddy stays in we will see a completely different game from him.MC Gusto wrote:
eddy must go out for mine too. was waaaaay out of his depth and really felt the pressure.
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There's no autos ... we did well in the ruck with Blake and Kosi and McEvoy is not a tap ruckman that is going to make the difference.
.. we may need to bring in Geary and Miles for Eddy and Gardiner ?
The plan may be to beat them on the ground... and stop their rebounding and quick half back line (Maxwell, Thomas and Shaw) which had 70 possessions.
.. we may need to bring in Geary and Miles for Eddy and Gardiner ?
The plan may be to beat them on the ground... and stop their rebounding and quick half back line (Maxwell, Thomas and Shaw) which had 70 possessions.
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Still say big mac most likely but if you could guarantee that King would get through the GF without going down like Gardy, he would be a walk up start.
Macs still not a great ruckman but adds something around the ground. Geary is the only one I could seriously see coming in though of the rest.
Be patient with Armo, he is a long term replacement for Lenny, he had his injury problems this season and will get more time next year IMO. I think they will manage Lenny's body in the next couple of years to get him through with a few more benchings.
Jack Steven is another that at a club a bit further down the ladder would see a bit more game time. It's a shame if the club isn't communicating this to the players waiting for a spot.
Macs still not a great ruckman but adds something around the ground. Geary is the only one I could seriously see coming in though of the rest.
Be patient with Armo, he is a long term replacement for Lenny, he had his injury problems this season and will get more time next year IMO. I think they will manage Lenny's body in the next couple of years to get him through with a few more benchings.
Jack Steven is another that at a club a bit further down the ladder would see a bit more game time. It's a shame if the club isn't communicating this to the players waiting for a spot.
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Nah, would go for any of the other options before I went for Kingy.gringo wrote:Still say big mac most likely but if you could guarantee that King would get through the GF without going down like Gardy, he would be a walk up start.
Macs still not a great ruckman but adds something around the ground. Geary is the only one I could seriously see coming in though of the rest.
Be patient with Armo, he is a long term replacement for Lenny, he had his injury problems this season and will get more time next year IMO. I think they will manage Lenny's body in the next couple of years to get him through with a few more benchings.
Jack Steven is another that at a club a bit further down the ladder would see a bit more game time. It's a shame if the club isn't communicating this to the players waiting for a spot.
Don't get me wrong, he's a great bloke etc.
But really, he's a slow aging ruckman who has played little this year and who poses no threat as a forward. We can't seriously be looking at bringing a small in to replace Gardi on one hand and replacing him with King on the other.
If a ruck comes in it has to be Ben.
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But what if nothing goes wrong with Kosi and Blake - who are doing just fine in the ruck and we have an extra plodder when we could have done with another ground level player ?Kris1 wrote:If McEvoy doesn't play and something happens to Kosi or Blake we would be in trouble I would have thought. Can't imagine Ross taking that risk after what happened to Gards?
We have a few sore ground level players that may appreciate the extra rotations and also the help the extra ground level player would provide - with chase and pressure.