Even our ruckman are mobile.

We are going to run some teams into the ground over the next few years.

Full back in the team of the year. Very good lock down defender

Trade next years first to Richmond for their pick. Pick up Moraes and Dodson. "The trait which allows Moraes to find so much of the ball is his running capacity. Fresh off a 6:25 result in the National Draft Combine's 2km time trial, Moraes has shown he can carve up the opposition with chains o...

"I've never been one to compare myself to AFL players because they're up there and I'm down here."

I think I'm in love.

You can't pick and choose if you want to have a high performing/elite/winning culture.

Loser attitude to want us to lose that game to Carlton.

Agree with those.

I personally think Reid could end up being the steal of the draft.

Where our draw is brilliant is in terms of 6 and 5 day breaks.

It's easy to underestimate the value of 7 day+ breaks.

Always happy to recruit players who have disposal efficiency and athleticism listed as strengths.

Fits what we are building, even if the player isn't a best 22 player.

Also a horribly disrespectful comment on two young players making their way despite significant setbacks.

Poor from someone who try's to position himself as everyone's mate.

Waltzing St Kilda wrote: ↑Fri 18 Oct 2024 2:00am Not really fussed. King Sharman & Owens with Marshall flaoting in is enough. If Membrey gets another year that's fine too.

30 year old forward with an unreliable body etc.

He stays on the list and it holds back the development of one of

Owens
Sharman
Cammaniti


Right time to move on.

Those who are not happy with us picking up McCrae should go back and watch all our 2024 games and see how utterly atrocious we were at clearances for a big chunk of the year. That alone cost us half a dozen games. McCrae is a necessity. I don't care if he's not quite the player he was 3 years ago, ...

Otiman wrote: ↑Tue 15 Oct 2024 5:23pm SOS needs to stop looking at players as their potential when recruited and look at them now.

Surely Paddy Dow was enough.

Bit early to call this one a failure imo

And the club has been saying for months we are going to the draft this year- it shouldn't be a surprise.

"Don't trade out of the draft"

Next minute

"Why aren't we trading"

If you don't think we have a great list and you want us to keep our draft picks.....

We've done a good job of generating value out of thin air the past few years but it isn't something you can do on demand.

Easy yes for mine.

Morris

chook23 wrote: ↑Tue 08 Oct 2024 7:02pm

magnifisaint wrote: ↑Tue 08 Oct 2024 6:59pm Where does it say he was delisted?

No where

He has not been offered a contract as yet

My guess would be that we've spoken to him about a 1 yr contract and have mutually agreed for him to see if he can get better elsewhere.

At a guess and going by HO to advantage stats I’d say 10-15% So if a ruckman has 30 HOs - 3->4 ende up as clean takeaways from their tap. Gawn might be a bit higher? Maybe the big fella from GC Suns? But it’s not significant Scores from turnover dwarfs scores from stoppage as a source. At a stoppag...

I think he's excess to needs. We need some mid age depth but we've already got Dow, Jones. Thats enough. We need to keep grooming potential midfielders aswell otherwise you end up with too many aged list cloggers. At 26 he potentially has 4+ years left if he can play to the level. Perhaps getting d...

I hope we do. Good depth player. Solid preseason could see him crack our bench, if he just stays the same he is a good option for us to have if we get midfield injuries like we did this year.

Give him a 1 year performance based contract with a trigger for a more lucrative 2nd year.

Seb Ross wouldn’t be a bad pick up for any club Seasoned pro Handy depth player But just to put it in perspective Jack MaCrae is 1 year younger Seb Ross made the AA squad of 40 in 2017 Macrae made the AA team in 2019, 2020, 2021 Seb was a B+ mid Macrae was A Grade If we get 50-60 games out of MaCra...

Our best 22 with Finn and Macrae looks pretty solid. Webster Howard Stocker Milera Wilkie Sinclair Marshall, Steele, Callahan, Clark Wood Hill Henry, Sharman, Pou Higgins, King, Owens Bench Wilson (wing, fwd) Macrae (mid) Butler (fwd) Windhager (mid) Sub Dow (mid) Depth Byrnes, Jones, Garcia, Shoenm...

What about either of these. Do they get it done and would we be happy.

Option 1
GWS get: pick 8, pick 24 and a future 1st
St kilda get: Finn, pick 14, pick 34


Option 2 (if more expensive)
GWS get Pick 7, pick 8 and a future 1st
St kilda get Finn, pick 14, pick 34, pick 49 and future 2nd

No one has said he is a star.

What has been said is he is a player who wins clearances.

A weakness of ours.

Also wasn't having a crack at Steele but your combativeness can't see past the red mist to realise that.

Fwiw the year I shared his, was last year. It wasn't a decade ago he was a 30+ possession midfielder who won more clearances per game than Steele did this year- it was last year. I love Steele but he needs support. Support a player like this can give him and costs us a bag of chips. Yes he didn't ac...