It is not an either/or position. We lack high-end talent, and skills across the board are substandard. However, that does not mean that the coaching is not also to blame. We have a coach who is completely opposed to attacking, he does not try to win the game. Ross coach's to breakdown the oppositio...

How interesting that we have become focused on our kids not producing. Phillipou did not play against Hawthorn, yet he was a problem for our seniors. Sharman / Caminiti, the same. No Webster, no worries, until it was...Paton is the better lock down defender. Will Owens, Hastie, Garcia be the next t...

Whether the game plan is right or wrong doesn’t explain dropped marks, fumbles, missed tackles, mis-kicks, poor accuracy. Too many players not up to it. Thank you This “game plan is crap” is just a puff piece for weak minded apologists letting sone of their “heroes” off the hook So so many fumbles ...

Ahhhh…so you didn’t it’s called Aussie rules footy.It’s a pretty good level comp. He was outstanding in the last quarter against North By the way…it was Dow’s second game at VFL level. Why does he need 3 warm up games? Why the f*** did we recruit him again? Thanks for the sanctimonious crap. We rec...

I am a Ross Lyon fan. The best coach to coach St Kilda in my memory. That said, he needs to own how we are playing in terms of attacking and hitting the scoreboard. Put the acid on a insipid midfield and dysfunctional forward half. Those are factors he can identify as requiring improvement, he simp...

Fair call Scollop, I just think that maybe we need to get a little personal with blame, particularly players, players of age. Coaches have been scapegoated since 66 whilst individuals have been celebrated. It's a balancing act we are yet to perfect.

I am a Ross Lyon fan. The best coach to coach St Kilda in my memory. That said, he needs to own how we are playing in terms of attacking and hitting the scoreboard. Put the acid on a insipid midfield and dysfunctional forward half. Those are factors he can identify as requiring improvement, he simp...

You're a Webster fan Scollop, good on you. I'm not. I was not referring to his handball fail but thanks for highlighting it. He is too loose. Whilst he's a hard player, I think he's a dumb player in terms of disposal and discipline. You think differently.

I am a Ross Lyon fan. The best coach to coach St Kilda in my memory. That said, he needs to own how we are playing in terms of attacking and hitting the scoreboard. Put the acid on a insipid midfield and dysfunctional forward half. Those are factors he can identify as requiring improvement, he simpl...

I like what you’re saying. I totally agree on the youth thing, but you lost me with your line about your criticism of Jimmy Webster and praise for Ben Paton … Paton is the better lock down defender. What did Paton do today that you’re giving him credit for? He did not have a goal kicked on him. He ...

I like what you’re saying. I totally agree on the youth thing, but you lost me with your line about your criticism of Jimmy Webster and praise for Ben Paton … Paton is the better lock down defender. What did Paton do today that you’re giving him credit for? He did not have a goal kicked on him. He ...

I think the kids have a bit of talent - especially Wilson But when there are better more experienced options- I’m not sure why they get a game They show little glimpses- which is great for first year players But those little glimpses gonna help us win games Right now Is Hugo Garcia or Angus Hastie ...

How interesting that we have become focused on our kids not producing. Phillipou did not play against Hawthorn, yet he was a problem for our seniors. Sharman / Caminiti, the same. No Webster, no worries, until it was...Paton is the better lock down defender. Will Owens, Hastie, Garcia be the next to...

We can do the same if we are willing to realise some senior players on our list are expendable.

B.M wrote: ↑Sat 11 May 2024 6:58pm Since when are we rebuilding?

Let's be fair B.M, we are rebuilding every year we do not win our 2nd Premiership. To say we are there without adding to our list, is a fallacy and a denial. Every club rebuilds, including the Premiers.

B.M wrote: ↑Sat 11 May 2024 7:00pm Plugger would’ve taken that mark in the last 20 secs

And kicked truly

You are correct there B.M., but you are missing the point as easily as we kick them.

Interesting Vortex that King should be added, why not Webster? Apparently he was going to be making everyone in the opposition's F50 look over their shoulder after his courageous practice match act. We need quality mids with pace and good disposal. Plugger would struggle with how we kick the ball in...

We did - which is why Battle had to be used forward You need 7 We had 8 (counting the sub) and not counting Sincs Which is why we were unbalanced What Hawthorn did exploit was our 3 taller defenders which are slow- ensuring 1 had to play on a small Moore, Ginnivan and Watson had a mismatch What was...

I see RoMa had a ton of Supercoach points, grab, kick, turnover...Meek beat him in the ruck contest and gave their, equally average, midfield a better than 50% chance of a clearance. We need a genuine centre bounce ruck or else we will always be playing catch up from our D50. But, hey, RoMa got alot...

B.M wrote: ↑Sat 11 May 2024 5:56pm Correct

Membrey or Garcia

I called for a sub in the first quarter when it was apparent that we had mismatches in our d50 and needed Paton on

Weren't people bemoaning we had too many defenders?

Who is Ross's whipping boy?

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5 Wilson
4 NWM
3 Sinclair
2 Hill
1 Windhager

I struggle to see why the Cat deserves any acknowledgement, but each to their own, I guess.

Great news. He's 19 and possesses a lot of talent. Two more pre seasons and he will become one of our most valuable players alongside NWM, Owens and Wilson. The last thing we need to be doing is throwing the toys out of the cot with any of our 1 to 3 year players. Let's face it, Acres is making us l...