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What’s awkward? The fact that you consider a third win to save Richo’s job against the Gold Coast an achievement?

F me. Every.single.thing wrong with this football club is embodied by you.


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The worst game of football I have watched in 2 years


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SAINT-LEE wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:37pm The worst game of football I have watched in 2 years
Which game are you thinking of?


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If that is enough to demonstrate to the incompetent board that this man is the right person for the job, then close the doors.


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ss1986 wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:36pm What’s awkward? The fact that you consider a third win to save Richo’s job against the Gold Coast an achievement?

F me. Every.single.thing wrong with this football club is embodied by you.
And you embody the thinking that delivered us the 'Footy First' ticket.


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Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:41pm
ss1986 wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:36pm What’s awkward? The fact that you consider a third win to save Richo’s job against the Gold Coast an achievement?

F me. Every.single.thing wrong with this football club is embodied by you.
And you embody the thinking that delivered us the 'Footy First' ticket.
And proud of it at this point. I would never stand for this, for as long as we have - simply wasting everybody’s time.


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Absolute farce that we continue with this same old crap week in, week out.

That firat half is completely inexcusable.


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ss1986 wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:39pm If that is enough to demonstrate to the incompetent board that this man is the right person for the job, then close the doors.
We got the result, like Brisbane didn't against Carlton last week and we didn't get completely touched up by an inferior side, as Richmond did against North.

If Andrew Bassat strikes you as incompetent, you've got no clue.


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Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:44pm
ss1986 wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:39pm If that is enough to demonstrate to the incompetent board that this man is the right person for the job, then close the doors.
We got the result, like Brisbane didn't against Carlton last week and we didn't get completely touched up by an inferior side, as Richmond did against North.

If Andrew Bassat strikes you as incompetent, you've got no clue.
What has he done so far to prove his competence at our football club? Whilst the coach is still here, he is as incompetent as any of them.


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ss1986 wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:45pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:44pm
ss1986 wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:39pm If that is enough to demonstrate to the incompetent board that this man is the right person for the job, then close the doors.
We got the result, like Brisbane didn't against Carlton last week and we didn't get completely touched up by an inferior side, as Richmond did against North.

If Andrew Bassat strikes you as incompetent, you've got no clue.
What has he done so far to prove his competence at our football club? Whilst the coach is still here, he is as incompetent as any of them.
To borrow the Nike slogan, should he 'just do it', like Lo Giudice? Now there's an incompetent pillock for you.

So you think a competent Board should sack Richo, in breach of Richo's contract (that only has perhaps 10 weeks to run), without knowing they've got Clarkson, Longmire, Lyon or a solid idea of who could do better?

All when we're 6/6 and about to get Hannebery, Carlisle, Webster and Lonie back, with Steven about 3 weeks behind them.


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Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:56pm
ss1986 wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:45pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:44pm
ss1986 wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:39pm If that is enough to demonstrate to the incompetent board that this man is the right person for the job, then close the doors.
We got the result, like Brisbane didn't against Carlton last week and we didn't get completely touched up by an inferior side, as Richmond did against North.

If Andrew Bassat strikes you as incompetent, you've got no clue.
What has he done so far to prove his competence at our football club? Whilst the coach is still here, he is as incompetent as any of them.
To borrow the Nike slogan, should he 'just do it', like Lo Giudice? Now there's an incompetent pillock for you.

So you think a competent Board should sack Richo, in breach of Richo's contract (that only has perhaps 10 weeks to run), without knowing they've got Clarkson, Longmire, Lyon or a solid idea of who could do better?

All when we're 6/6 and about to get Hannebery, Carlisle, Webster and Lonie back, with Steven about 3 weeks behind them.
7,243 supporters, and an embarrassment on TV. We are playing the Gold Coast, in Townsville at 1.45 in the afternoon.

MMM commentary were taking the piss out of the standard of the game.

If you think a 4 point win at that despicable standard is a reason NOT to do SOMETHING... then u also have no idea.


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ss1986 wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:03pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:56pm
ss1986 wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:45pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:44pm
ss1986 wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:39pm If that is enough to demonstrate to the incompetent board that this man is the right person for the job, then close the doors.
We got the result, like Brisbane didn't against Carlton last week and we didn't get completely touched up by an inferior side, as Richmond did against North.

If Andrew Bassat strikes you as incompetent, you've got no clue.
What has he done so far to prove his competence at our football club? Whilst the coach is still here, he is as incompetent as any of them.
To borrow the Nike slogan, should he 'just do it', like Lo Giudice? Now there's an incompetent pillock for you.

So you think a competent Board should sack Richo, in breach of Richo's contract (that only has perhaps 10 weeks to run), without knowing they've got Clarkson, Longmire, Lyon or a solid idea of who could do better?

All when we're 6/6 and about to get Hannebery, Carlisle, Webster and Lonie back, with Steven about 3 weeks behind them.
7,243 supporters, and an embarrassment on TV. We are playing the Gold Coast, in Townsville at 1.45 in the afternoon.

MMM commentary were taking the piss out of the standard of the game.

If you think a 4 point win at that despicable standard is a reason NOT to do SOMETHING... then u also have no idea.
Really, I've seen many worse a game not involving us in the last few weeks. It was also slightly on the high scoring side by this year's standards.

We smashed them in inside 50s, If we'd kicked straight and avoided a few dumb mistakes, it was a 5 to 7 goal win. Richmond would love such a win at the moment.


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Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:22pm
We smashed them in inside 50s, If we'd kicked straight and avoided a few dumb mistakes, it was a 5 to 7 goal win. Richmond would love such a win at the moment.
But for 6 years, we haven't kicked straight.

For 6 years, we've made the same dumb mistakes.

If that was going to change, it would have by now.


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BarryGrogan wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:28pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:22pm
We smashed them in inside 50s, If we'd kicked straight and avoided a few dumb mistakes, it was a 5 to 7 goal win. Richmond would love such a win at the moment.
But for 6 years, we haven't kicked straight.

For 6 years, we've made the same dumb mistakes.

If that was going to change, it would have by now.
And for 6 years the List has been young and inexperienced and still is.

Acres running forward with the ball after a good passage of play. Does Membrey lead out in front? No, he runs behind his opponent requiring a harder kick from Acres, he doesn't body his opponent to create separation and drops the mark under pressure. That's not coached.

When Dunstan tackles a player who lost the ball and didn't have it, in front of goal. That's not coached.

There were just countless examples of such dumb decision making. That's not coached.

Obviously poor kicking for goal isn't coached and whilst we're particularly poor in that regard, it's really bad across the competition, with the exception of Geelong & Collingwood.


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Unfortunately you can’t sack a coach after a win.

When/if it becomes obvious we won’t make finals,riCHO goes.


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Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:50pm
BarryGrogan wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:28pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:22pm
We smashed them in inside 50s, If we'd kicked straight and avoided a few dumb mistakes, it was a 5 to 7 goal win. Richmond would love such a win at the moment.
But for 6 years, we haven't kicked straight.

For 6 years, we've made the same dumb mistakes.

If that was going to change, it would have by now.
And for 6 years the List has been young and inexperienced and still is.

Acres running forward with the ball after a good passage of play. Does Membrey lead out in front? No, he runs behind his opponent requiring a harder kick from Acres, he doesn't body his opponent to create separation and drops the mark under pressure. That's not coached.

When Dunstan tackles a player who lost the ball and didn't have it, in front of goal. That's not coached.

There were just countless examples of such dumb decision making. That's not coached.

Obviously poor kicking for goal isn't coached and whilst we're particularly poor in that regard, it's really bad across the competition, with the exception of Geelong & Collingwood.
Those guys aren't young and inexperienced.


Richo had a blatant 'kick it to Roo' game plan. It was mildly effective.
But then Roo retired.

And...well....here we are 2 years layer and Cho still hasnt overseen an ounce of improvement across the group. Despite 50 odd games of experience and development into young and highly regarded recruits - we've gone backwards fast.

Membrey is an excellent footballer, playing in a terribly coached and incredibly dysfunctional team.

He's not the only one.


We don't have a top 2 list.

However we have a lot of talent.

It's just so dysfunctional that everyone looks so haphazard.


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Linton Lodger wrote:
Acres running forward with the ball after a good passage of play. Does Membrey lead out in front? No, he runs behind his opponent requiring a harder kick from Acres, he doesn't body his opponent to create separation and drops the mark under pressure. That's not coached.
Whilst I agree the coaching is deplorable, I think they got word out to Membry on this one.

On the first occasion he ran directly at goal, giving Acres only a tiny area to kick to when he could have come forward or run across into a hugs space.

Later he did turn and run to the fat side instead of at goal. Dermie even pointed it out.

I’m probably giving the coaches too much credit, but Membrey definitely made a better choice.


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BarryGrogan wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:58pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:50pm
BarryGrogan wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:28pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:22pm
We smashed them in inside 50s, If we'd kicked straight and avoided a few dumb mistakes, it was a 5 to 7 goal win. Richmond would love such a win at the moment.
But for 6 years, we haven't kicked straight.

For 6 years, we've made the same dumb mistakes.

If that was going to change, it would have by now.
And for 6 years the List has been young and inexperienced and still is.

Acres running forward with the ball after a good passage of play. Does Membrey lead out in front? No, he runs behind his opponent requiring a harder kick from Acres, he doesn't body his opponent to create separation and drops the mark under pressure. That's not coached.

When Dunstan tackles a player who lost the ball and didn't have it, in front of goal. That's not coached.

There were just countless examples of such dumb decision making. That's not coached.

Obviously poor kicking for goal isn't coached and whilst we're particularly poor in that regard, it's really bad across the competition, with the exception of Geelong & Collingwood.
Those guys aren't young and inexperienced.


Richo had a blatant 'kick it to Roo' game plan. It was mildly effective.
But then Roo retired.

And...well....here we are 2 years layer and Cho still hasnt overseen an ounce of improvement across the group. Despite 50 odd games of experience and development into young and highly regarded recruits - we've gone backwards fast.

Membrey is an excellent footballer, playing in a terribly coached and incredibly dysfunctional team.

He's not the only one.


We don't have a top 2 list.

However we have a lot of talent.

It's just so dysfunctional that everyone looks so haphazard.
We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?


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Special wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:56pm Unfortunately you can’t sack a coach after a win.

When/if it becomes obvious we won’t make finals,riCHO goes.
Yes worst possible result really. Scraping a win against lame opposition with a first half that had the commentators actually laughing out loud at how bad it was. No emphatic statement of authority, no clear indication of improvement.
Same old style....the number of times I heard the commentators say, “and he bombs it long into the Saints forward line”..

Scrape over the line against rubbish opposition and it’s a vindication of Richardson??? What to do? It’s not how I see it.


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Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 7:05pm
BarryGrogan wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:58pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:50pm
BarryGrogan wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:28pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:22pm
We smashed them in inside 50s, If we'd kicked straight and avoided a few dumb mistakes, it was a 5 to 7 goal win. Richmond would love such a win at the moment.
But for 6 years, we haven't kicked straight.

For 6 years, we've made the same dumb mistakes.

If that was going to change, it would have by now.
And for 6 years the List has been young and inexperienced and still is.

Acres running forward with the ball after a good passage of play. Does Membrey lead out in front? No, he runs behind his opponent requiring a harder kick from Acres, he doesn't body his opponent to create separation and drops the mark under pressure. That's not coached.

When Dunstan tackles a player who lost the ball and didn't have it, in front of goal. That's not coached.

There were just countless examples of such dumb decision making. That's not coached.

Obviously poor kicking for goal isn't coached and whilst we're particularly poor in that regard, it's really bad across the competition, with the exception of Geelong & Collingwood.
Those guys aren't young and inexperienced.


Richo had a blatant 'kick it to Roo' game plan. It was mildly effective.
But then Roo retired.

And...well....here we are 2 years layer and Cho still hasnt overseen an ounce of improvement across the group. Despite 50 odd games of experience and development into young and highly regarded recruits - we've gone backwards fast.

Membrey is an excellent footballer, playing in a terribly coached and incredibly dysfunctional team.

He's not the only one.


We don't have a top 2 list.

However we have a lot of talent.

It's just so dysfunctional that everyone looks so haphazard.
We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?
Lodger, it just sounds like excuses mate. Six years this crap has been going on. Do you genuinely have faith that Richardson can take this team into contention?


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Linton Lodger wrote:
We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?
Err dude, they're 7th on the ladder.


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st.byron wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 7:07pm
Special wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:56pm Unfortunately you can’t sack a coach after a win.

When/if it becomes obvious we won’t make finals,riCHO goes.
Yes worst possible result really. Scraping a win against lame opposition with a first half that had the commentators actually laughing out loud at how bad it was. No emphatic statement of authority, no clear indication of improvement.
Same old style....the number of times I heard the commentators say, “and he bombs it long into the Saints forward line”..

Scrape over the line against rubbish opposition and it’s a vindication of Richardson??? What to do? It’s not how I see it.
How can anyone want a loss, pffft!


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BarryGrogan wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 7:13pm
Linton Lodger wrote:
We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?
Err dude, they're 7th on the ladder.

Err dude they're 8th and we are 11th, only one game behind and it's possible we could jump them next week.

Seriously the media should start putting some focus on how well Alan is coaching this year. It's truly an inspirational story what's happening at our club this year.


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BarryGrogan wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2019 7:13pm
Linton Lodger wrote:
We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?
Err dude, they're 7th on the ladder.
But we are 8th on percentage. Only got 23 percentage points off Port in the eight


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