We all still love lenny
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Re: We all still love lenny
IMHO, Lenny Hayes would make an excellent senior coach.
If it were up to me I'd sack Alan Richardson today and appoint Lenny Hayes senior coach effective immediately.
I do not think you could find a more inspirational leader who would have the total respect of the playing group.
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If it were up to me I'd sack Alan Richardson today and appoint Lenny Hayes senior coach effective immediately.
I do not think you could find a more inspirational leader who would have the total respect of the playing group.
Absolute legend and quality personified.
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Agree re leadership, etc, but can he coach? Plenty of great players/leaders were not good coaches. Seems to have done OK as midfield coach at GWS but you would think a fews years as a senior assistant would be required.Aussie Jonestown wrote: ↑Mon 18 Mar 2019 12:37pm IMHO, Lenny Hayes would make an excellent senior coach.
If it were up to me I'd sack Alan Richardson today and appoint Lenny Hayes senior coach effective immediately.
I do not think you could find a more inspirational leader who would have the total respect of the playing group.
Absolute legend and quality personified.
If you are looking at ex Saints, I think Harves would be ahead.
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But how do you really know?
All of Richo’s experience and excellent interview doesn’t appear to have served us particularly well. Neither did Watters’... both highly recommended.
At the end of the day, all you can do is set up a process to recruit a coach and if you think they have it... give it to them and build the support around them.
My sense is... and it comes from Mission’s book, Lenny’s personality is one of doing everything above and beyond to get the right result in terms of training. He was also an inspirational Captain and leader. Those qualities bode well... he’ll constantly do everything he can to better himself
Experience he’ll get over time. Let him put on his show and if it’s up to the standard you’d expect, get him and put the experience and support around him.
All of Richo’s experience and excellent interview doesn’t appear to have served us particularly well. Neither did Watters’... both highly recommended.
At the end of the day, all you can do is set up a process to recruit a coach and if you think they have it... give it to them and build the support around them.
My sense is... and it comes from Mission’s book, Lenny’s personality is one of doing everything above and beyond to get the right result in terms of training. He was also an inspirational Captain and leader. Those qualities bode well... he’ll constantly do everything he can to better himself
Experience he’ll get over time. Let him put on his show and if it’s up to the standard you’d expect, get him and put the experience and support around him.
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I would appoint Robert Harvey as senior coach and bring Lenny and Xavier Clark in as assistants Keep Ratten as mentor. . Harveys done the apprenticeship
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Hhhmmm - I would vote for a raw Lenny over Harves any day - Sorry - but I think Harves is just too 'nice'. I have seen him sit and chat football with someone whilst his kid was playing basketball - and he did not tell the guy to f@rk off. I do not think Harves would have it in him to be brutally honest with the players - Lenny on the other hand - imagine coming off the ground after a dismal showing and having to look 'Len-Dog' in the eye and say "Yes coach - I gave 110%"
Harves as an assistant - you get my vote
Lenny in - Ratten to advise - Lenny to be Head Coach - inspiration - Carrot AND Stick!
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I would be absolutely staggered if Lenny didn't coach the Saints one day - he will be a great coach, he has all of the required qualities and is universally loved and admired - you know he'd have the players on side from day one.Sainter_Dad wrote: ↑Mon 18 Mar 2019 4:19pmHhhmmm - I would vote for a raw Lenny over Harves any day - Sorry - but I think Harves is just too 'nice'. I have seen him sit and chat football with someone whilst his kid was playing basketball - and he did not tell the guy to f@rk off. I do not think Harves would have it in him to be brutally honest with the players - Lenny on the other hand - imagine coming off the ground after a dismal showing and having to look 'Len-Dog' in the eye and say "Yes coach - I gave 110%"
Harves as an assistant - you get my vote
Lenny in - Ratten to advise - Lenny to be Head Coach - inspiration - Carrot AND Stick!
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I wouldn't have any former St.Kilda player, Lenny, Robert or anyone else as coach, they have never played in a premiership, would rather someone with Premiership experience, full stop!!!!!
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How many premierships did Clarko play in?
Go through a thorough & well informed process & get the best available.
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I struggle to fathom the selection of anyone pre-nomination and interview...
Now we’re throwing together arbitrary criteria like he needs to have played in a premiership and picking one set of unproven assistants over another
Now we’re throwing together arbitrary criteria like he needs to have played in a premiership and picking one set of unproven assistants over another
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I'd have Lenny any dayMyron Gaines wrote: ↑Mon 18 Mar 2019 6:36pmHow many premierships did Clarko play in?
Go through a thorough & well informed process & get the best available.
With regard to process, I think Watters went through it all, but when we appointed Richo we basically handed him the job after we had a falling out with Choco Williams who wanted a five year contract.
On the subject of best available...how is long is Bevo signed for at the Dogs?
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How many premiership coaches did Clarko play under or assist under?????Myron Gaines wrote: ↑Mon 18 Mar 2019 6:36pmHow many premierships did Clarko play in?
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Learnt the craft of coaching under Tim Watson if I remember correctly.stonecold wrote: ↑Tue 19 Mar 2019 8:36amHow many premiership coaches did Clarko play under or assist under?????Myron Gaines wrote: ↑Mon 18 Mar 2019 6:36pmHow many premierships did Clarko play in?
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Haha, no one else?????Myron Gaines wrote: ↑Tue 19 Mar 2019 8:43amLearnt the craft of coaching under Tim Watson if I remember correctly.stonecold wrote: ↑Tue 19 Mar 2019 8:36amHow many premiership coaches did Clarko play under or assist under?????Myron Gaines wrote: ↑Mon 18 Mar 2019 6:36pmHow many premierships did Clarko play in?
Go through a thorough & well informed process & get the best available.
We can all give limited information to support our theories!!!!!
Dennis Pagan ring a bell at all?????
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